FYI I am here guys, just saw the topic that was addressed to me that was locked. Lol. Well I've got nothing right now, just waiting for word on the price to build the lambo hinges. Meanwhile I am working on a drive-by-wire system for the Starlet as well as finishing up the anti-lag system. Should be interesting!
BTW mods should loosen up here...yeesh. Haha
Conrad Andres 1990 Toyota Celica Alltrac (Daily driver 1982 Toyota Starlet (Turbocharged race car)
I'm here too. Not that i had much to do with this project. I'm still on C.net because there is more information there for sure. I hope that site doesn't go down the tubes because I'll need it if I ever attempt a 3S-GTE swap.
So what is the plan as of now with this? I have been following along just havnt posted. I would like to see this done. Like conrad I think it would be cool but not my style.
righty-OH, i just got out of my med study for 2 days, and will be recieving a nice check soon w00t!!!!
So i'm catchin up on this and so far we're waiting for Magik to get back to us on what the dude from DI's been doin and whatnot. When he does and if it got done properly we'll be having Whodi send the money (agian if more than $800 others will volunteer to chip in) and get Magik to buy the FIRST set of real 5thgen hinges. Once he's got'm off to Conrad.
Again just waiting to hear back from Magik on the DI half of this deal.
Yet another silent member moved over from c.net. This is great because not only do i want the hinges for my car buy my friends and i were about to spend a lot of money on hinges for our show truck. An 86' ranger that is bagged, shaved, and body dropped.
I don't think it really matters, I do that type of work all the time at my job. It happens a lot in the manufacturing industry, a lot more than you'd think.
Nice to meet you Ron, I will be making more of a presence on this board in time.
Conrad Andres 1990 Toyota Celica Alltrac (Daily driver 1982 Toyota Starlet (Turbocharged race car)
sup fuckas, this'l be my frst drunk post! I'm with Foreman and Farva, and we're gettin'r done!!
So i just wanted to check in about this project and make sure that magik didn't hit us up for the major update. I can't wait till he does cause i wanna be 'Vertivcal' soooo bad.
Neways i'munna continue this drinking binge Foreman, Farva, and me have goin till the 4th is up and over.
Talk to you guy later and hope that this gets there.
I hope Magik hasn't "Disappeared", anyway I been yappin with Twisted Images about there kit. Harry ( The one who built it) said he spent about 3 monthes ironing out the bugs so the kit would work properly. Now keep in mind that they started from scratch. He dropped the GB offer to C.net cause everyone that contacted him just kept asking for the files. As I stated on C.net, my Car club is forking out the money for my verts, so I'm not really losing anything. TI and our pres have talked and come to an agreement on a price for a kit. I should be on its way to my house this week. Now because I'm not putting the money out, and our club mech is doing the work to get it ready in time for a few upcoming shows, I can't send it to Conrad, But if there is anyway I can help you all when I get it, I'll be more than happy. Conrad, if you need me to take pics it, measurement, etc let me know. I can hold the guys off for a little while, but if I stall to long when I get it the pres will start making calls to TI asking where the F*** its at.
I hope Magik hasn't "Disappeared", anyway I been yappin with Twisted Images about there kit. Harry ( The one who built it) said he spent about 3 monthes ironing out the bugs so the kit would work properly. Now keep in mind that they started from scratch. He dropped the GB offer to C.net cause everyone that contacted him just kept asking for the files. As I stated on C.net, my Car club is forking out the money for my verts, so I'm not really losing anything. TI and our pres have talked and come to an agreement on a price for a kit. I should be on its way to my house this week. Now because I'm not putting the money out, and our club mech is doing the work to get it ready in time for a few upcoming shows, I can't send it to Conrad, But if there is anyway I can help you all when I get it, I'll be more than happy. Conrad, if you need me to take pics it, measurement, etc let me know. I can hold the guys off for a little while, but if I stall to long when I get it the pres will start making calls to TI asking where the F*** its at.
This sounds promising to me. Couldn't a few pictures along with maybe a traced outline of the hinge give Conrad enough to make the files? I guess only Conrad will know for sure but I'm stoked. My door is off my car right now so I can take pics of it and measurements if that will help any.
dude conrad said himself from posts on c.net that he wouldn't use anyone else's measurements but his own because he doesn't want to make a set of hinges and them to be messed up because of calculations on false data. A lot of people have said they would take pictures of the door off their car... it would be useful to a lot of us but conrad probably knows how it looks already. Also, I asked conrad once if he would could make the set of hinges from scratch but he'd first need a 5th gen donor car and the time to do that. So yeah... read up
guys just checking in ive been puttin in 15 hour days at work lately so haven't had a lot of time to read up. Magik has my e-mail and phone number but hasn't gotten to me yet hopefully we get this under control soon or at least an update he did mention something about a vacation so hopefully he is back soon if that is the case. Anyway just wanted to check up i just went out for a ride on my friends Honda VFR and i am buying a bike soon probably a little kawasaki zx6 but i don't want to spend the money until i get magik whatever cash he needs first ...
dude conrad said himself from posts on c.net that he wouldn't use anyone else's measurements but his own because he doesn't want to make a set of hinges and them to be messed up because of calculations on false data. A lot of people have said they would take pictures of the door off their car... it would be useful to a lot of us but conrad probably knows how it looks already. Also, I asked conrad once if he would could make the set of hinges from scratch but he'd first need a 5th gen donor car and the time to do that. So yeah... read up
Bingo. I'd like to see pics of it installed on a 5th gen and pictures of the hinge when it is functioning...that would help for visualization. But that's all I would use the photos for just to help visualize. I don't trust other people's measurements...as at my job I basically compare my results to other companies (our suppliers) and I find mistakes ALL the time. This is coming from other Quality Assurance Engineers who do this day in and day out. Haha.
So sure if you want to take some general photos of the hinge setup that would be great, otherwise anything else would be pretty useless.
Conrad Andres 1990 Toyota Celica Alltrac (Daily driver 1982 Toyota Starlet (Turbocharged race car)
hey hey here's Magiks PM to me after i got to him!
sup man, i cant get over ti ecelica. i registered and never got a conformation e-mail so i dont have an account, newayws , i have heard nothing from dayton imports, all i know is that they are extremely busy, but ill tru to make an appointment ..thanks pz garell
I hit him up with what to do, so he should be gettin in here.
That sucks, I thought the whole time he was on vacation he had left his celica in the shop getting measured. Damn were probably looking at november/december if this thing does come through.
grr. i cant get on e.celica, looked all in my mailbox for a conformation letter, never got it. Ne ways tell the guys i did leave me car there while i was on vaction. and they didnt have time to work on it, because its not making them money . Thats why i am going to schedule an appointment
soo thats bout it. It'll get there, patience is a virtue!
oh man... i hope this "patience" factor pays off man. Seriously. I took a girl out on a nice date today after coming back from Mexico (don't ask, LONG STORY) and she said my car was "Cute"
That made my day. I just tried to imagine my car with an all-trac hood, lowering springs, lambo doors, and nice tinting all around. Would look killer and she would say it was "Hot" instead of "Cute." But for now, "Cute" sounds good enough for me.
I'm guessing the guys at DI probably know what we're gonna do with their hinges... That's why they would take their sweet time and make magik get another appointment. Plus they don't know how much it's gonna cost to make a set of hinges so they're probably skeptical about making some and then saying it's 1G+ dollars. I hope it's just $800 so Whodie could take care of it in one swoop (You Kick Ass Man!). After the hinges get made this will take off and it'll be smoothe sailing. Can't wait!
i highly doubt that DI has any clue as to what we have planned for the first set of hinges. There gonna, well for a lack of a better term; get 0wned by Conrad once he gets the hinges. So its gonna be fun!
Ha your car is cute. You know girls also say love bugs are cute too. LOL I don't think a girl ever told me that about my car. They usually is its cool or nice.
Ha your car is cute. You know girls also say love bugs are cute too. LOL I don't think a girl ever told me that about my car. They usually is its cool or nice.
My car has often been termed "sexy"
And...it's beat up. lol. The front passenger fender is scraped up on the corner, dented in (the marker there is duct taped on, courtesy of the ex-gf who managed to PUSH the car into the pole by the gas pumps when she ran out of gas) The hood is dented on the front, right by the headlight -- from a baseball bat. (also missing about 7 inches of the lip on the hood there) Driver side door has been keyed, a small dent just above the trim. Spoiler is chipped twice -- both right where it is split from the center piece to the passenger side piece -- from the previously mentioned baseball bat. Back of the trunk lid is dented, from a truck, which also caused crackage down to the license plate. Clearcoat on the roof has been peeling away.
Yet still -- it has been, on more than one occasion...considered "Sexy" hehe. Though I plan on fixing all this, doing some personal mods that I have yet to see on another 5th gen, and swapping a 3SGTE into it -- all when I'm no longer poor.../then/ we'll see about how sexy it is =D
i highly doubt that DI has any clue as to what we have planned for the first set of hinges. There gonna, well for a lack of a better term; get 0wned by Conrad once he gets the hinges. So its gonna be fun!
Haha I can own them on my new CMM (machine that I am using to reverse engineer parts) that I am going to be getting at work. This is what it looks like: http://www.sheffieldmeasurement.com/cordaxe.shtml
BTW I will be going down to Dayton, Ohio again for work in a few months (for training on the new CMM) so I can meet some people in person and see how well the hinges work on the car.
Conrad Andres 1990 Toyota Celica Alltrac (Daily driver 1982 Toyota Starlet (Turbocharged race car)
icE0677: hey DaytonImports: hey icE0677: when you think you will have time to get me fitted for the lambo doors for the celica DaytonImports: hoping next week icE0677: ok icE0677: still have my number ? DaytonImports: 2666447 icE0677: ya icE0677: coo
just wanted to let everyone know im still here just can't keep up with the posts as much now that they have me on 7 day weeks 80 hours a week ... lets keep this thing going i've been trying to shave my door handles for a while now maybe i'll pull an all nighter tonight who knows ... damn work always getting in the way ...
dude i'm pretty nervous that magik isn't gonna get a spot for an appointment... i hope he does. After the hit and run, my passenger door makes a farting noise everytime i open it because it's rubbing somewhere. I think verts would get rid of that sound
I'm just waiting for the hinges to come to my door and I can begin work on them. Till then I am going to keep working on my countless personal projects.
Conrad Andres 1990 Toyota Celica Alltrac (Daily driver 1982 Toyota Starlet (Turbocharged race car)
Well, I got my hinges from Twisted images on Saturday. Dropped them off to get them sprayed today. Should have them on by the end of the week. The guys at TI are pretty cool. Once I get them back I'll take some pics and post them.
Unfortunately no, my hinges were purchased from TIECC, a company that was originally going to give C.net a group buy on 5th gen specific hinges. Mine were paid for by my car club for some upcoming shows, so I don't really have the option of sending them out for an unknown amount of time.
I haven't seen him here or at C.net. As for taking them off, well, that would lower my 1/4 mile time with the doors off but I don't think it will be too cool with the cops or the MPs here on post.
Well put your old hinges back on if you don't have them just go to a junk yard and pull them off. I guess you're our only hope. Post some pics of your new hinges and let us know if they close right.
Tommy is hopefully going to send me some pics and I'm going to see what I can do as far as reverse engineering them. Conrad is way more talented than I am but since the doors are off my car right now (I'm re-building after it being written off) and one of my best friends dads is a machinest I can hopefully figure something out. Don't get your hopes up though because I'm not an CAD expert and don't have much time.
bah, i sent him a PM and no word jus yet. I really hope that his ass didn't back out. If he did we'll jus have to go with plan B. That being we get a group to donate money to a paypal accnt and as i said before i would volunteer to by the 'banker.' I am in no way a person who would run off with anyones money. I have several people from cnet to vouch for that. I'm not an asshole.
so if it comes to that we'll buy some hinges and send'm to conrad for the jobby job! either way I WANT THIS DONE. it WILL get done with or w/o magiks help. Be it a pair made specifically for 5th gens (the easy way) or ones that need to be somewhat modified (the hard way)!
I'm still in this for the whatever haul. Tell me if sounds good to you guys!
Hey I got another idea. Tommy how about this. You take off the hinge from your passenger side door and send that one to conrad. If its a perfect fit I'm sure he can mirror the hinge to make the file for the driver side hinge. You don't really need to have both doors up at car shows.
i've been following this for a while. hope it does go ahead but from the sounds of things, your making some progress but there have been maybe some let downs.
the wheels are not the 5-zigen, company called BSA here in the UK.
i orginally brought the RC/CS bumper and then the sideskirts but thought the bumper looked a bit dull against the side skirts so got the corners and extensions customized.
didn't really like the bumpers with the kit, also wanted it for the space for a FMIC.
well getting back on topic... it looks as if this project has died in the water which i hope is not so. TommyGT do you have pictures of your car with the vertical door kit installed on it? Post them if you have some . Has anyone tried PMing magik or getting in contact with him? I want to see this project completed and would like to put a set of hinges for vertical doors on my car. We need to revive this.
Well whenever you guys need my services I'll do it for you guys for free. I want to see this project go through but I'd rather avoid the politics and just deal with the Engineering aspect of it. So whenever you guys need me, shoot me a PM or email (conradandres at hotmail dot com) and we can go from there.
Conrad Andres 1990 Toyota Celica Alltrac (Daily driver 1982 Toyota Starlet (Turbocharged race car)
the thing about that tiecc.com is that what if the kit is not bolt on? We're trying to get magik a time slot. He might be able to get in this week.
Are those donors still in here? Wasn't there one donor who would donate $800 to this project and take the hinges for himself after conrad reverse engineers them?
I have a feeling we're just sitting on our asses doing nothing and i want this to change. We need to make this project go through. It'll make the celica community look more approachable. It would also give us some unique celicas to our respective areas.
it turns out magik has been held up not being able to get to Dayton Imports because of the fact that he ordered parts to be fabricated but hasn't had the money to pick them up. He's been tight on cash so it's kind of awkward if he shows up for a test fit but doesn't have the cash to pay for other parts, which would make any investor (dayton imports in this case) to not step forward and make a bolt on vert door kit for the car. As soon as he sums up $150 magik will be able to make it down to dayton imports and get a test fit to have the kit made. As far as what we can do... there's not really any option that anyone would step forward to do (which is pay for magik's part and hope that he would pay you back which is kinda far fetched).
We are still in need of those donors to step forward for this project. I remember having a list of donors on c.net and i was on that list. I'm still up for my $50 contribution. As far as the others, i hope that they will still step forward.
magik has told me he will be able to visit dayton imports next tuesday for a test fitting. Maybe by the end of that week we'll have a set of hinges for conrad to engineer.
by aim. I've been talking to him and dayton imports for the past 2 days. Dayton imports happens to be willing to make a complete kit for 5th gens. What they don't know is that we're only gonna buy one set and send that to conrad to reverse engineer. He was thinking in investing to mass produce these. So I tried to make it clear that we wanted to see how well magik's turned out before he would invest in anymore (we don't wanna make dayton imports lose money, after all they're just helping us get hinges ). Can't wait for news of the test fit and the estimate price for the first kit he makes that we will purchase and send to conrad. It'll be smoothe sailing from there. It would just fall to everyone else's own responsibility to get their set of hinges, unless conrad can mass produce them for WAY cheaper than dayton imports. I think he might be able to get shocks for us pretty cheap.
Hey guys i havent been able to get on here much with out the internet at my house, but from what i have been reading you guys seem to be right on track. I cant wait to see this project done, so that i can get me a set too. Sorry im not much help. Keep up the good work.
hey hey! sorry fellow cnet crew, i hadn't been able to get on here for quiet a while cause my computer for some reason kept showing this site with absolute jiberish. No real text or anything jus wierd stuff.
Anyway, i've sent magik several pms and he hasn't replied but thats through cnet. Either way bloodred you been keepin tabs on the hole thing and i give mad props for that.
After the not beein here and whatnot i dunno if anyone is still comfortable with me bein the banker if needed. If there still needs to be some sort of donation i'll be down for $50. So that right there is $100 from 2 peeps on the board.
As b4 i'm more than pumped to see this project get done. After 7pgs at cnet and 2 here, this is actually getting somewhere. Though winter is nearing and the 'show' season is dying down, its def worth it. The savings and the happy ass 5th geners goin vert will be uber fuggin pimp!
Hey bloodred, thanks for mainly keepin this alive from cnet. Don't mean i don't appreciate the new eceli peeps.
Sorry for the long time no post. Uncle Sam had other plans for me the past week +. My wife thought it would be cool to get my hinges put on as a surprise when I got back. Believe me I was. Bad part is she didn't take any pics of the hinges before, and Dave, my club mech, didn't take any pics during installation. They did attend a show last weekend and there is a pic of the car on my profile. I am hoping to get the car out somewhere nice to take some other shots of it.
hopefully magik will get out of court and be able to head to dayton imports on tuesday. The odds are looking good right now but prayers are always welcome . He will be able to get test fitted and pick up his parts from dayton imports bringing us closer to our goal: cheap verts for 5th gens.
we still haven't gotten the brave donor who said he would donate $800 to our cause to step up again. You know who you are and there is no better time than for you to once again step up to the plate.
hey blood, that donor was Whodi, you can send him a pm he's posted here a few times. Don't know if he'd still put up that amount since its been so long since he offered and whatnot.
ok guys, here's the deal: Magik has confirmed that he is going to dayton imports on thursday to pick up his parts. Here's what the catch is... we need the money to back up what we got planned. Whodi was the donor who said he would lay down $800 i believe but we're not sure if he's still down to do that since it's been monthes since he committed to doing so. We need to confirm that we have the money to buy the first set of hinges to send to conrad. Everyone do everything possible to try and contact whodie and if he can't step up with the money, if not then we all have to pitch in and we still need a banker. I still trust nvusgt to be the banker.
We can only hope that this goes the way we need it to otherwise it'll be a long time before we will get this done.
CHO!!!! im here guys i know its been awhile since i've posted my interenet at my beach house sucks and for some reason i was unable to log in here or cnet anyway i stopped by my parents house to work on my car a little and thought i'd check in and good thing i did im glad things are rolling nvusgt i got your message keep in touch and tell magik to call me so i can send him the money i believe he still has my number if not just pm me. I just moved into a new apartment my cable guy is coming friday to set up my cable nad give me my modem. oh and by the way good job bloodred on keeping this on track ... - Kyle
Whodie shoot me a PM with your phone number just in case so i can send it to magik. He's had problems logging in here also. I'll make sure i get it to him.
yo just checking in Bloodred i PMed you at cnet i just got the internet back but im pretty busy so don't expect every day visits get magik my number -Kyle
alrighty, well this seems just about dead. It's pretty much clear that we can't really rely on magik to come through on this so i think we have to get the hinges by other means unless magik magically get's the money to pay for all the parts he had DI make for him and pay for them. He won't even get a test fit because we don't have an estimate and the reason is because he won't get one... i'll try to think of something so everyone else think too.
mang that would be cool'n all, but we don't need a 'group buy.' that would mean a discount on prolly a big number of hinge kits for people to buy. The people that were lookin forward to this, are people who don't have the money even if a group buy was in place.
I'm not shootin the idea down nor telling you not to do it. Jus giving some input. See what you can do about maybe having him come down in price for ONE set of hinges. IF its reasonable, we'll all throw down, get'm and send'm off to Conrad to be duplicated!
i would like to ask tommy91gt to see if he could for 2 weeks be parted from one door without vert hinges. I'm sure conrad can mirror image the hinge and create another dxf file for the driver side after he's done with the passenger side. I know it's a sacrifice but it would be for the good of all of us. I'm guessing that Conrad could probably sit down and create files within a couple of hours and shipping would take the most time unless it was overnight shipping. Most everyone on here wouldn't be able to pay for the hinges.
IF whodie bought a set of hinges from twisted and sent those to Conrad that would be a plan too. Otherwise i'm fresh out of ideas.
Ahem I believe that was my idea. But yeah, tommy we need you to do that. Lambo doors are cool and all but No way in hell I'll pay 900 bucks for them. I would rather put that money towards my swap.
Convo I had with Magik icE0677: Hello! Are you there? ElSuperSpic: sup icE0677: magik06 from c.net ElSuperSpic: sup icE0677: ur the only one that i could reach that was interested in the lambo doors icE0677: anyways i got my parts from DI and they arent going to do the hinges for us ElSuperSpic: yeah.. icE0677: cause they wont make any money off one set icE0677: while we go make knock offs icE0677: so if you could relay that to the guys on everything.celica icE0677: my account doesnt work over there ElSuperSpic: dude did you tell them we were going to copy them? icE0677: no icE0677: someone else did ElSuperSpic: But they knew about our plan? icE0677: ya icE0677: im friends with the owner of di icE0677: and i picked up my parts today ElSuperSpic: parts for what? icE0677: turbo ElSuperSpic: oh i guess were skrewed icE0677: i asked him if he was still planning on making my hinges ElSuperSpic: yeah.. icE0677: and he said " no, cause those guys are just going to buy one set and make knock offs, and thats no money for me . icE0677: and he could make more off of neons and civics ElSuperSpic: ok ill tell him Pretty self explanitory...I guess the only option we have is with tommy.
Bad news guys ... i just had to drop $800 into my jeep and had to front my roomates rent for this month so now i am behind on buying my 3sgte engine i don't know if I can throw up enough money to buy hinges my engine is a little more important right now then these hinges even though i want to help everyone out. Had this been 2 months ago i would have gladly done it just sometimes this crap happens sorry guys maybe if this goes no where in a few months i'll get paid back by my roomates and have made some money at work and hopefully nothing goes wrong with my jeep or my celi. Kyle
it's been dead in the water... our chief source on getting a set of hinges can't get them and the donor does not have money. Don't look into getting hinges ANYTIME soon.
The whole issue for the community is cash. Either no 1 has it or no 1 is willing to pull it together. It's not cost effective for me to pull one of mine off. The kit I have can be purchased for 1300 and I can get it for cheaper. Everyone wants a kit that cost like $50. You get what you pay for. People complain cos there are no parts for our cars and then when they come around they bitch that they cost too much. People say "well you can get a kit for 500 for a civic, why can't we?" Well, actually they can. That 500 Honda kit also fits a celica, a Tahoe and a M3. Its a universal kit. It will fit anything if the right mods are made to it. But that 500 kit is going to run you close to 3g's to get it put on your car. So you still have to bring a lot out of pocket. THe kit I have is a direct bolt on for the 5 th Gen, that could be put on in a persons garage at home. But until the community can get the cash together to send Conrad a set to do the files on this will all be talk for most of them. What most of them don't realize is once you get the files you still have to get a shop to cut them. For those that work at one or have connections it won't be too costly. But those that have to go thru the YP's looking for a place it is still going to cost them a nice chunk to get them made an they are still going to have to put them on, if they can.
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Ha your car is cute. You know girls also say love bugs are cute too. LOL I don't think a girl ever told me that about my car. They usually is its cool or nice.
which is kinda far fetched).
