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now my question is if im a racer and i want my gears to go in as fast as possible wat is my best bet? i need something that will shift fast.

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basically, the shorter the stick, the less time it takes to change gears.

but like it says in the thread, you will need better bushings. thumbsup


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im saying witch kit is better for a racer the B&M or the TWM?

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my bad.

forgive me, I drive an automatic lollol


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stock is best for racing...

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The shorter you go the more stiffness it's going to be. as far a short throws B&M has the shortest but when it comes to the shortest TWM. Since TWM is the shortest it's much stiff than B&M. Stick with stock and practice on your shifting more, but if you really are decided to for a shortshifter, I'd say go for B&M.

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Originally Posted by spaztikid
stock is best for racing...

really? Why? Wouldn't you want a shorter throw so you can shift faster? confused

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id say twm, but thats just cause i have it and i love it, it clicks right into gear and no free play, havent mis shifted sence i got it.


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B&M will have a shorter throw than stock.
TWM will have a shorter rod than stock, but not a shorter throw than stock.

go for B&M


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Originally Posted by sbocaj55
Originally Posted by spaztikid
stock is best for racing...

really? Why? Wouldn't you want a shorter throw so you can shift faster? confused

you can shift as fast with the stock shifter... and the stock one is way more accurate and smooth...

the "firmness" that comes with a SS makes it harder to shift fast and accurately.

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thanks guys ill go for B&M

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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
B&M will have a shorter throw than stock.
TWM will have a shorter rod than stock, but not a shorter throw than stock.

go for B&M

why would twm not have a shorter throw, i think your wrong


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Originally Posted by spaztikid
Originally Posted by sbocaj55
Originally Posted by spaztikid
stock is best for racing...

really? Why? Wouldn't you want a shorter throw so you can shift faster? confused

you can shift as fast with the stock shifter... and the stock one is way more accurate and smooth...

the "firmness" that comes with a SS makes it harder to shift fast and accurately.

word I am accually getting a "longer" shifter for when i start autocrossing next spring. Your sinchros (sp?) can only match up so fast so "slamming" the short throw is really just messing up your tranny

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you think? is this correct guys? damn im scared to get it now. i just got a new tranni and dont fell like wasting 3gs to get a new one

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bump

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your fine man, like posted before, B&M for the short throw do to the different physics of it, or TWM for the look of it being like 1 1/2" shorter. Since you said you wanna race I'd get the B&M

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Go With TWM you will not regret your choice


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thanks sixth gear but im a racer. and i need a short throw not a stiff throw. thanks guys thumbsup

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