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#60682 Nov 16, 3:25pm
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Diablogts said the trd ss is great and any thing shorter would pinch his hand, does any have the twm or b&m shifters, how do the feel/fit

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i have b&M...really stiff...i have felt a trd seems pretty good nice hieght...but twm is the shortest but iv heard lots of great thing about it...so i dunno id pick twm thumbsup

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I have the TWM. It looks very short thumbsup and you have a quick shifting! grin

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I'll post you a pic later on of what I meam by pinching. I've never used/seen the others in person, so they might not be THAT much shorter.


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Originally Posted by ViperT23
I have the TWM. It looks very short thumbsup and you have a quick shifting! grin

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TWM is the shortest - hardest
B&M is medium - medium
TRD is longest - smoothest


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i'm thinking b&m but witch would be best for racing, twm?

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Originally Posted by Celicaracer18
i'm thinking b&m but witch would be best for racing, twm?

most likely, but idk.


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I am going to love the TRD for autox.

I don't like to have to think about the shifter, I just want it to work. If it's hard, or stiff, or difficult to use, that might cost precious tenths of a second

the TRD is smooth as silk thumbsup


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good point diablo

i might just go with the trd, plus i don't think i want something to short and is it is as smooth as you say it is i will get it

do you think you can send some picks of waht you were talking about the pinching thing to if you don't mind
thanx in advance

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yeah, I post you a pic later this afternoon when I get off work! thumbsup


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i don't mean to sound like a nag, but what about that pic, if you can't get to it soon just say so

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Sorry, I was busy yesterday afternoon, I didn't get any time.

I'll try to this afternoon on my lunch break! thumbsup


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Does TRD smoother than stock???


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Originally Posted by kevin
Does TRD smoother than stock???

oooooooh yeah! cool


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Just installed my B&M today! The install was easier that I thought it would be. The hardest part for me was getting the new push nut on.

I'm pretty pleased with how my car shifts now, and it looks good too!
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ive had my b&m for about a month and its been a definate improvement in overall driving thumbsup
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here ya go!

I my hand gets pinched by the handbrake!
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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
here ya go!

I my hand gets pinched by the handbrake!

How in the hell do you shift so that your hand gets stuck in there confused

My hand never even gets close to getting stuck between there

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Originally Posted by RicePowered
Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
here ya go!

I my hand gets pinched by the handbrake!

How in the hell do you shift so that your hand gets stuck in there confused

My hand never even gets close to getting stuck between there

Yea i agree confused confused

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Originally Posted by trog2233
Originally Posted by RicePowered
Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
here ya go!

I my hand gets pinched by the handbrake!

How in the hell do you shift so that your hand gets stuck in there confused

My hand never even gets close to getting stuck between there

Yea i agree confused confused

that's in first gear

when you move it over to go into reverse, it goes more over to the left and then up, and it pinches.


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I think it would depend on how you hold onto the knob. But even if your hand did get pinched slightly going into reverse wouldn't be that big of a deal for most people.

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Keep in mind, if you have a GTS, getting the shortest short shifter will affect your shift timing. This is very crucial for landing lift in 2nd gear. For example, if you get the TWM ss, your hand timing will have to be more percise than before with your stock shifter because of the lesser time it takes to shift while your foot is on the clutch. Just because you get a short shifter doesn't nescessarily mean you'll shift faster.

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Originally Posted by Steven
Keep in mind, if you have a GTS, getting the shortest short shifter will affect your shift timing. This is very crucial for landing lift in 2nd gear. For example, if you get the TWM ss, your hand timing will have to be more percise than before with your stock shifter because of the lesser time it takes to shift while your foot is on the clutch. Just because you get a short shifter doesn't nescessarily mean you'll shift faster.

Heh not sure I understand that post exactly. I get what your trying to say but doesn't make much sense to me. confused

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what if you have a gt ?

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A friend of mine made his own custom short shifter. He cut his stock shaft and installed a carbon fiber knob. He'd shorten my shifter, but I'd have to get the shaft rethreaded if I wanted to use my stock knob. Shoot for some time taking measurements and cutting the shaft, it's better than paying a bill or two for a short-shifter.

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Originally Posted by Mike00
Originally Posted by Steven
Keep in mind, if you have a GTS, getting the shortest short shifter will affect your shift timing. This is very crucial for landing lift in 2nd gear. For example, if you get the TWM ss, your hand timing will have to be more percise than before with your stock shifter because of the lesser time it takes to shift while your foot is on the clutch. Just because you get a short shifter doesn't nescessarily mean you'll shift faster.

Heh not sure I understand that post exactly. I get what your trying to say but doesn't make much sense to me. confused

basically hes saying that you have to get used to it. the whole shifting process is going to be quicker if you get a short shifter. meaning you can wait exactly for 8300rpm(or where the rev limit is) and shift at that instant, then remember to let go the cluth earlier and punching gas early bcz you have a shorter shift=short throws. meaning if it took you 1 second to shift from 1st to 2nd with all the clutch process and all that, the shifting process has to be done in 0.5 second.

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twm, stiff at first, for some reasons it softens up, but the play that was there is gone. I love it!!

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Originally Posted by silverOOgts
twm, stiff at first, for some reasons it softens up, but the play that was there is gone. I love it!!

this may be due to the fact that you grew familiar with it over time. or maybe it really does get loose, not 100% certain..but i would assume you just get used to it. try letting a friend drive and see what he thinks.

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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by silverOOgts
twm, stiff at first, for some reasons it softens up, but the play that was there is gone. I love it!!

this may be due to the fact that you grew familiar with it over time. or maybe it really does get loose, not 100% certain..but i would assume you just get used to it. try letting a friend drive and see what he thinks.

it def. get looser as you work it. the day i put mine in it was soo stiff, now when i drive it, about 1 week later, its smoother. . . i love it


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i still thinki'm getting the trd

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Originally Posted by xXMaGNuSXx
A friend of mine made his own custom short shifter. He cut his stock shaft and installed a carbon fiber knob. He'd shorten my shifter, but I'd have to get the shaft rethreaded if I wanted to use my stock knob. Shoot for some time taking measurements and cutting the shaft, it's better than paying a bill or two for a short-shifter.

This doesn't do anything.

The short shifter had a different fulcrum point, and this is what gives the shorter shifts.


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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Originally Posted by xXMaGNuSXx
A friend of mine made his own custom short shifter. He cut his stock shaft and installed a carbon fiber knob. He'd shorten my shifter, but I'd have to get the shaft rethreaded if I wanted to use my stock knob. Shoot for some time taking measurements and cutting the shaft, it's better than paying a bill or two for a short-shifter.

This doesn't do anything.

The short shifter had a different fulcrum point, and this is what gives the shorter shifts.



and can't you mess up your trans doing that?

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