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drkramm #221250 Jul 12, 12:05pm
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what i am saying is that an auto does not have a flywheel it has a flexplate which may be similar but there not the same

and that a flexplate and a flywheel can NOT be interchanged

now are we done ?


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drkramm #221251 Jul 12, 12:07pm
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your showing the front of the engine and the balencer with that picture


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"if i have seen farther it is by standing on the shoulders of giants"
derek: do you know that non dairy cream is flamable
Jennie: ...derek..what did you do

drkramm #221252 Jul 12, 12:09pm
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ok now i see what you mean but.. and a big but because it shows you on that picture does it mean it comes on the engine? no it doesnt and why would one need "too little metal things with teeth" bolted to geather


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"if i have seen farther it is by standing on the shoulders of giants"
derek: do you know that non dairy cream is flamable
Jennie: ...derek..what did you do

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and round little palte with teeth doesn't describe them both at that it is a generalzation so in that sense they are the same but when you look at the fron tof a manuel "rond metal thing with teeth" you'll see there are no holes the auto will have holes becasue it needs to be mounted to a converter and may have other holes for cooling or light weight as the picture on your post shows the huge holes


and uh oh i don't see one on this http://www.gmpartsdepot.com/store/product1.aspx?SID=2&Product_ID=516&Category_ID=74 better send it back its broken


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hey thats a 20 minute phone call
"if i have seen farther it is by standing on the shoulders of giants"
derek: do you know that non dairy cream is flamable
Jennie: ...derek..what did you do

drkramm #221254 Jul 12, 12:24pm
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It probably also comes without a starter, that's why.

I think the flywheel in a standard as described is a flexplate with a metal disc bolted to it. The flexplate on an automatic is also known as a flywheel. In otherwards, its symantics, wording.

The torque converter bolts to the "metal plate with teeth" from behind, the large holes are not used for anything but weight reduction. The metal plate shown on the standard tranny would also bolt from behind to the "metal plate with teeth" from behind which would cover up any holes you might see. ( http://www.ws6.com/slpclutc.htm )

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I donno, but I have to admit logically the "metal plate with teeth" could not be much lighter than it already is, whereas with the metal disc there is much more room for weight reduction.

So "lightened flywheels" would only be available for standard vehicles because the lightening is done to the metal disc & not the "metal plate with teeth".


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in a generalization a flexplate and a flywheel are the same but they can not be moved between a manuel and an automatic and a standered flywheel has the teeth it does not use a bolted on flywheel the heat of clutch engagement would warp the flywheel (which it does anyway) and most like brake a flexplate if it was installed

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hey thats a 20 minute phone call
"if i have seen farther it is by standing on the shoulders of giants"
derek: do you know that non dairy cream is flamable
Jennie: ...derek..what did you do

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Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
The torque converter bolts to the "metal plate with teeth" from behind, the large holes are not used for anything but weight reduction.

This is correct, many aftermarket flywheels come with lots of little holes in them meant to reduce weight but maintain the same structural strength. And many stock flywheels dont have those holes. And some do. *shrug*

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If you could get a shot of the back of that flywheel, I bet you'd find it has two parts bolted together.

Even from that picture it looks like two parts.

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hey thats a 20 minute phone call
"if i have seen farther it is by standing on the shoulders of giants"
derek: do you know that non dairy cream is flamable
Jennie: ...derek..what did you do

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and if they wanted it lightweight they could remove all that materail on the outside of the contact patch of the clutch plate so those holes wouldn't even be there (the holes which show the background)


*thats if it was a two piece like your are saying it is which im sorry but its not

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hey thats a 20 minute phone call
"if i have seen farther it is by standing on the shoulders of giants"
derek: do you know that non dairy cream is flamable
Jennie: ...derek..what did you do

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There are two piece flywheels.

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yes i think its the rps or something on that line but that one is two piece in that you can replace the material on the front of the flywheel which comes in contact with clutch plate so you only need to buy new packs or what ever you like to call it instead of getting the flywheel re-surfaced or getting a new flywhee


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Maybe domestics and imports differ? I donno, but I plan to find out.

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^^^Dude you are really retarded a flywheel and flexplate are completly different the flywheel on a standard is used to engage the clutch disc and in turn start turning the gears inside the tranny the flexplate in an auto is only used to engage the starter to crank over the motor and yes I do know because I am an ASE certified mechanic and I did put in my own lightweight FLYWHEEL and clutch so I think I know what Im talking about and even if you dont believe me then go ask any auto technician and they will laugh at you if you tell them an automatic has a flywheel.But believe whatever you want and go put a lightweight FLYWHEEL on your auto. poke

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Originally Posted by Haulin_A_Doo
Maybe domestics and imports differ? I donno, but I plan to find out.

they pretty much go off same princaples only diffrent ones anymore ar elike audis cvt and like super cars

and guy that is agreeing with me thank you


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Jennie: ...derek..what did you do

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Originally Posted by badazzgt
^^^Dude you are really retarded

Since when did this form become a smack talking forum. Listen buddy, take that attitude somewhere else. And who asked you anyway.

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drkramm, I talked to some mechanic type people & they said that many flywheels do bolt to the flexplate the same way the torque converter does. This way the flexplate is matched to the starter & you can switch up tranny's without chaning that. They also said that the flexplate on the automatic has been called a flywheel before, but they thought that it was not correct.

In summary, you are more correct than I. Thank you for the info.

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its finally over spineyes lol good info i learned a lot from this debate thumbsup

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