Celica Forums General Discussion Engine and Performance TPR to ship soon!

coolness good luck with the new shop

the dynos will be on stock ecu. I won't have time to get he power fc tuned up at first. I imagine it will take around 8hrs just to do a basemap. it'll all depend on how well it takes to the old base map we made.

also I dunno if I'll post my map or not. it's gonna cost me over $400 in dyno time so giving it away for free to save everyone else some $$$ isn't high on my priority list lol I also don't wanna have to deal with the liability issues involved with releasing my own map.

think about it this way, How many people bought the Power FC from MWR and continue to use their "base map" w/o dynoing it or tuning it to their car? I'd say 80-90% of the people who buy it. with an improper une you can destroy your car. I don't wanna have to worry about that responsibility. rarely will 2 celicas react the same with the same map.

i totaly agree with Mike, i think its kinda stupid he is spending his own money and you guys are asking for more, stop crosing the line, stop being cheap damn it. if you want good performance pay for it. i think he is doing us a big favor by even dynoing the car, just because pplz wanna be so up tight about dynos, if you really dont trust the product then dont buy it. just my 02

damn, i didn't mean to start a big controversy over a tpr specific base map for the apexi pfc. just thought that with easy_c bumping out a ton of parts that it would be nice to see a map that works in conjunction with all the available parts since i would assume that he would already have his car tuned to the entire product line.

i never asked for it to be free, just an option that could be distributed (for whatever cost) to those that purchased the entire product line of tpr. selling the base map would reduce tuning time for tpr buyers and also help tpr recover r&d costs associated with developing the product. one hand washes the other and both parties benefit.

hell, i'd pay a significant amount for a map that was tuned specifically for the tpr i/h/e & cam (i've been waiting for the entire product line to debut). he retails all the parts, why not retail a base tuning service as well?

i was not asking for a handout from anybody. alright so dyno testing costs like a grand. sell the map for $500. the buyer saves half the tuning cost so he's happy. you recover half your costs so you're happy. sell it to two buyers and you've recovered all your costs. sell it to three and you've got a profit.

isn't this a reasonable question to ask? i was just hoping tpr was looking in to this as a service to retail. i have much appreciation and respect for all parties associated with tpr including all you guinea pigs, try not to take offense, we aren't all trying to roll you to benefit at your expense.

thanks.

i understand that mike

what i meant was that any dyno with a pfc may not be a true representation of the products performance. stock ecu would be great for comparison's sake.

e_degala sorry for being a little harsh back there, now this makes a lot more sence. if your willing to pay then your strait, i just said for the pplz that want the map for free, besides like mike said before, he dosent wanna be responsible if your car wont react to the settings and blows up. every car is different so take your chances

The header is being put on hold because I delegated the R&D funds for it to getting the cam out. The cam will be a bigger seller and our community needs it right now. But once some nice cash comes in from the cams, we will be getting that header out as well. We also have a couple other goodies for ideas too, but its time to market smart and get things done quickly

And no my car isnt tuned for anything right now. I only have a Gen 1 TPR intake on it ...

yes maybe in the future if you havent thought of doing this yet a biggerthrottle body would be nice

wow im getting goosebumps

i really wish cams was last so i could have time to save up, and be one of the first ones to have it. but it seens like ill be one of the last ones oh well TPR fucking rocks

dont worry the cams wont go anywhere. they will be there when you have the money

TB is already thought of

damn, i want the headers, cams, and midpipe when that shit comes out

and now that i think about it, i wish pfc worked with 03

well if you're willing to pay then I'm sure some kinda arrangement can be made to ge tyou guys a good power fc base map for all the tpr stuff

you have no idea about how many pm's I get about people wanting my maps or wanting me to do their car for free. I'm like wtf? I'm really not THAT nice of a guy lol my generosity goes only so far lol. if I was super rich I wouldnt care but I'm just another poor sucka trying to make a $1 outa 15 cents lol

lucky, i had no idea that you were being hit up for maps like that. i hear you now.

i've been waiting for the tpr i/h/e set to debut. i planned on getting that first, then, adding the camshaft and apexi pfc. just wanted a map to start off with 'cause i planned on taking the map & pfc together down to a tuning shop and having it tweaked (hopefully it can run with the stock ecu so i can have the cam installed prior to tuning).

never intended to run with the base map as the final tuning so if tpr or anybody else sells the base map perhaps a clause that states that it is not to be utilized as a final map could prevent liability and doing so is at the buyer's own risk.

i'd like to see further dynos of the new parts coming out not 'cause of doubt, skepticism, or credibility of tpr but curiousity of the awesome potential that is possible that has eluded the celica market until now.

personally i'd like to thank tpr and associates for catering to the inquisitiveness of our fellow celica owners regardless of how unappreciative they may appear.

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And its customers like you that keep it going

i know this has been covered but does anyone have pics and sound clips of the TPR exhaust in action?

check the search, i don't think so yet...hey Chris, I wouldn't mind getting one of your changable CAI/SRI and I can do a whole bunch of stuff for you that nobody has done if you can cut the price a little bit And then i'll post away how good it is so you get great advertising...just ask Stain of Cain since i got some tattoos from them...I advertised the hell out of them, ill do the same for you!!!

sigh yes here let me post it

exhaust alone

it isn't working...oh i forgot sorry

it works for me

Pm me, I'll give you my number...we can talk

when is it going to be carb legal

cant wait for all the great parts? are you ever gonna think about putting out a turbo kit for gts or are you gonna leave that to c2 powwer

unsure right now. Lets get over cams first. I do know the cams will be turbo friendly as well

Question about the exhaust? So, is it going to be an axle back setup or is it going to go further forward on the system(Towards Cat)? Will any welding be required for this system?

its an axle back setup, it wont need welding. welding will only be required if you get the tpr header with out the downpipe

yup, its just an axle back.

damn i cant wait!!

does anyone have any pics of the TPR on a car, cause from how it seems TPR is better that TRD in gains, but im lookin for some pics

never seen pics on the car

Chris, you make me very happy when you mention something new and add the after it.

how about i just meet up with you one day while im in RI? lol

Chris, you better make it to the May 28th show in Plymouth!!! lol, you better damnit! If not

Got your pm, ill call you in the next few days

im planning on being there! I may even have all my products on by then.

chris you never answered my question about what tips you are going to end up puttin on the exhausts.

We don't know yet, my old shop kinda screwed me and made the piping to fit a 6" tip. i cant find any 6" tips with a 2.5 in but I think we found a 7" that can be cut. i'll post pics if my shop takes them.

so you would cut them to make them 6"? i really dont want any extra hangin out

Easy_C, when can I get your SRI & does it come with a heat shield? I need an intake soon. Have you dyno'd the SRI setup yet?

i'll be goin over to the new shop as soon as the tips get there. that way I can take pics for easy_c.

I saw 1 today that was the same thing only not the right size. it was pretty good lookin.

it's polished, slant cut and rolled edges.

once the exhaust is finished he can put the tip on and cut it and measure it and all that good stuff. chris doesnt want them to stick out either.


the guy doesgood work. just be patient and trust that everything will work out fine in the end

if you people knew how much behind the scenes crap that goes on you'd have a cow

i cant wait to see what thse gts cams do just hope its as good gains as the hondas get..good luck chris, because if you make good cams you will have a monopoly on your hands and will be rich...

...yups

Any updates on when the TPR CAI's are going to start shipping?

Do you think you guys will ever get CARB legal, I've been dying for a TPR to come out but don't want the hassle of not being legal

I cant wait til TPR REALLY gets goin. I want to have as much TPR stuff as possible in my car. I can wait cause quality takes time.

I do plan on looking into CARB after i pull myself out of this hole that my fraudulent shop put me in.

How are things looking with the new shop?

Pretty good. The exhausts are almost done, the intake prototype is almost done, the cam got done ahead of schedule. Things are looking pretty up

so chris exhaust will ship before intakes? looks like it. make your you give us some eyecandy of the finish exhaust and the intake prototype

of course i will. The exhaust was easier to make than the intakes.