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To bAD i dont know shit about cars or cams, i just own a Gt which i am learning about. Anyone wanan break it down for a novice like myself ? 
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can a gt w/ map fueler, cams, I/E/H, beat a stock gts??
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imma get intouch with them after this 3 day weekend and order the stage1 cams i think the body kit can wait for a little bit
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this makes me wish I had a GT  why??? the stuff will come 
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I want a real dyno chart. 
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i wanna know what ya'll are talkin about!  can anyone explain cams a little further? 
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go to howstuffworks.com and search for camshaft it will tell you in full detail how it works.
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I want a real dyno chart. uh, this is crower we're talking about. lol they are known for doin great work.
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I want a real dyno chart. uh, this is crower we're talking about. lol they are known for doin great work. I'm sure they are good cams, but I'm curious what the altered powerband looks like.
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Would get but Im saving for a motorcycle. Ninja 500 > GTS > GT
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I called them on Friday, and I'm saving for the STage 3 setup...but its gonna be a while because I want an apexi power fc to go with it
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hmmm, if it improves the availability of the HP/torque, it will make the car a lot faster, despite the peak numbers not changing much.. low end torque rules
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for the GTS, the 1st TPR cam will be concentrating on low - midrange power. it will only slighty alter the top end.
he took this route first cause of soo many people that wont wanna save up and buy a power fc. too aggressive on the high end will be worthless without engine management.
I'm hoping to see some crazy low end numbers. the top end will come eventually.
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hey, we need low end more than anything else right now since we make most of our other power up top anyway
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To bAD i dont know shit about cars or cams, i just own a Gt which i am learning about. Anyone wanan break it down for a novice like myself ? Very useful: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/camshaft.htm
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the mugen cam's for the RSX turned out 20 whp on the dyno. crower is one of the best companies in the industry so its safe to say gains will be pretty nice, depending on your setup and tuning 
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omfg im so excited! i gotta wait for some graphs although but i betthey will be great, just gotta be sure.
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$438 for the pair... hmmm should i do it???? and put body kit on hold or no? i have till 5pm to decide
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$438 for the pair... hmmm should i do it???? and put body kit on hold or no? i have till 5pm to decide  you're deciding between cams and a bodykit?? hint: CAMS!!!!! 
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...unless if the body kit gives you more power of course
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coo shit, just ordered them, said he had hella calls today about ppl that saw the screen shot of that pdf that they e-mailed to that guy, i asked why he didnt have it up on the website yet, he said Honda's are priority .. pfft i guess there are too many honpoos out there stage 1 shipped + tax = $480 ME equals one happy dude!
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ill get results up when i get em done, wheres a good place to get my shit dynoed? i wanna do a before and after but dont wanna pay an arm and a legg for it
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i wanna do a before and after but dont wanna pay an arm and a legg for it option a) get some knee pads and some lube and offer yourself to the dyno-guy as he gives you a special discount for your services option b)suck it up because performance and tuning ain't cheap...
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^^^^^^ people on fourms are so nice huh? LOL!!
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yeah, and make sure you hurry up w/ the install & dyno, i wanna see what these cams can do
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too bad you're from nor cal. I have a dyno place that I work with alot. but we're a bit far from you lol
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way to go man...can't wait to see what they do...
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respect the gt-s
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how much more hp gain do you think you could get if you hit 8krpm in GT? your going to need a lot more than just cams to rev safely to 8k
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cams are for low end power/take off, hitting 8k would be pointless for us
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you would need a completely built head with new valves, stiffer springs, and stronger retainers to hit above 8k in a GT... matt at Monkey wrench hits 8300 rpm with his turboed 1zz spyder but all of his engine is built using the MWR parts
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I don't understand this. They can build new and better internals for 1ZZ but not 2ZZ. Companies have lost their damn minds to not develop parts for a car thats been around since '72. Yeah i really couldn't agree more bro... 
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If they do make cams for 2zz i WILL BRAKE the 225hp line for all motor celi's! I plan on braking it even with out the cams so w/e... Just get ready to give me props in a month that's all i'm saying for now...
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its probably because the 1zz has been around for like 7 years now
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1zz is def old motor
2zz is new when celica was introduced
and they are still altering it
they should make a really powerful motor with lift that would be nutz
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dudes the 2zz cams are being tested this upcoming week by lucky, he's gunna dyno the TPR's for them, so chill u'll have ur cams soooon
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dudes the 2zz cams are being tested this upcoming week by lucky, he's gunna dyno the TPR's for them, so chill u'll have ur cams soooon yeah, but heard they are testing for more low end to mid range power in short, im not expecting radical high end gains. im still interested in tpr's headers. r they still coming out?
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If they do make cams for 2zz i WILL BRAKE the 225hp line for all motor celi's! I plan on braking it even with out the cams so w/e... Just get ready to give me props in a month that's all i'm saying for now... if you do it that would be great, 225whp in a 2500lbs car, n/a = sick as F... but even with cams i dont see you break 200whp without a decent header... ...well maybe with a custom cat back..idk 
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If they do make cams for 2zz i WILL BRAKE the 225hp line for all motor celi's! I plan on braking it even with out the cams so w/e... Just get ready to give me props in a month that's all i'm saying for now... you have no proof that you're even close. G-tech doesnt count. we cant even verify you used the correct inputs. the current best on the boards is 194 whp and it was never duplicated or verified within 1%. his 2nd highest dyno same mods was 188 whp. I'm at 185whp. you WILL NOT be hitting 225 whp like I alread stated in your other thread. I understand you're excited about the mods you "think" gave you power but please don't spread bad information cause you really have NO CLUE what kinda power you have. thanx
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If they do make cams for 2zz i WILL BRAKE the 225hp line for all motor celi's! I plan on braking it even with out the cams so w/e... Just get ready to give me props in a month that's all i'm saying for now... you have no proof that you're even close. G-tech doesnt count. we cant even verify you used the correct inputs. the current best on the boards is 194 whp and it was never duplicated or verified within 1%. his 2nd highest dyno same mods was 188 whp. I'm at 185whp. you WILL NOT be hitting 225 whp like I alread stated in your other thread. I understand you're excited about the mods you "think" gave you power but please don't spread bad information cause you really have NO CLUE what kinda power you have. thanx lucky...you already powned him on the previous thread and i have already told him several times he has not gained anything from this 'chip'...let him be and when he gets a timeslip or dyno then he'll know.
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maybe i should bust out graphs...oh wait...wrong website...
TPR Intake! - Injens high end with AEM's low end and NO BOGGING!
TPR EXHAUST! - Exhaust made 10.5 whp peak and 32 whp at 6300 on my car!!!
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maybe i should bust out graphs...oh wait...wrong website... oh c'mon...don't you miss the impatient 'dyno-hounding' just a little bit?...
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looks like I have another performance mod to buy...
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Can someone tell me where on the website you found these cause i looked everywhere on there and couldn't find any cams for 1zz.
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not on the website... I emailed him and the graphs on page 1 of the thread are from the email that crower shot back to me
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u have to call crower urself
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my teamate johnsgt officially has the first 1zz F/I cams. we installed them yesterday along with new springs and valves. I'll try to get the pics up in a few minutes.
they looked very good. cant wait to get em on the dyno.
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^^^ my cams should be here tomorrow! how was the install, how long it take u, and how was the feel afterwards?
*****could you post an install or just a quick heads up on anything you ran into i should know?
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