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Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! Larry_GTS #374466 Jan 15, 12:42pm Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 77 Ohio dougied Member 2000 Toyota Celica dougied Member 2000 Toyota Celica Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 77 Ohio To bAD i dont know shit about cars or cams, i just own a Gt which i am learning about. Anyone wanan break it down for a novice like myself ?

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! dougied #374467 Jan 15, 1:09pm Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 415 California BigTony Senior Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT BigTony Senior Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 415 California can a gt w/ map fueler, cams, I/E/H, beat a stock gts??

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! BigTony #374468 Jan 15, 1:19pm Joined: May 2004 Posts: 283 Elk Grove, California shoulin Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT shoulin Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: May 2004 Posts: 283 Elk Grove, California imma get intouch with them after this 3 day weekend and order the stage1 cams i think the body kit can wait for a little bit

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! Larry_GTS #374469 Jan 15, 5:31pm Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,241 Fontana, CA Lucky_317 Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica Lucky_317 Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,241 Fontana, CA Originally Posted by Larry_GTS this makes me wish I had a GT why??? the stuff will come Best 60' 1.959 best 1/4 - 13.7 @ 101mph

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! Lucky_317 #374470 Jan 15, 9:47pm Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,249 California silver Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica GT silver Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,249 California I want a real dyno chart.

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! silver #374471 Jan 16, 10:42am Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 321 Dallas, Texas JesterDallas Member 2002 Toyota Celica GT JesterDallas Member 2002 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 321 Dallas, Texas i wanna know what ya'll are talkin about! can anyone explain cams a little further?

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! JesterDallas #374472 Jan 16, 11:17am Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 52 LonG BeacH, Ca DoRkyCeLica Member 2000 Toyota Celica DoRkyCeLica Member 2000 Toyota Celica Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 52 LonG BeacH, Ca go to howstuffworks.com and search for camshaft it will tell you in full detail how it works.

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! silver #374473 Jan 16, 12:54pm Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,241 Fontana, CA Lucky_317 Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica Lucky_317 Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,241 Fontana, CA Originally Posted by silver I want a real dyno chart. uh, this is crower we're talking about. lol they are known for doin great work. Best 60' 1.959 best 1/4 - 13.7 @ 101mph

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! Lucky_317 #374474 Jan 16, 2:52pm Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,249 California silver Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica GT silver Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,249 California Originally Posted by Lucky_317 Originally Posted by silver I want a real dyno chart. uh, this is crower we're talking about. lol they are known for doin great work. I'm sure they are good cams, but I'm curious what the altered powerband looks like.

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! silver #374475 Jan 16, 6:34pm Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 822 Northern VA GTQuentin Senior Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT GTQuentin Senior Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 822 Northern VA Would get but Im saving for a motorcycle. Ninja 500 > GTS > GT

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! GTQuentin #374476 Jan 17, 6:38am Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,371 ATL GA AZZKIKR SHO - NUFF 2003 Toyota Celica GT AZZKIKR SHO - NUFF 2003 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,371 ATL GA I called them on Friday, and I'm saving for the STage 3 setup...but its gonna be a while because I want an apexi power fc to go with it

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! Larry_GTS #374477 Jan 17, 4:47pm Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 173 Saskatoon, Sask GTaintsobad Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT GTaintsobad Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 173 Saskatoon, Sask hmmm, if it improves the availability of the HP/torque, it will make the car a lot faster, despite the peak numbers not changing much.. low end torque rules

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! GTaintsobad #374478 Jan 17, 11:05pm Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,241 Fontana, CA Lucky_317 Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica Lucky_317 Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,241 Fontana, CA for the GTS, the 1st TPR cam will be concentrating on low - midrange power. it will only slighty alter the top end. he took this route first cause of soo many people that wont wanna save up and buy a power fc. too aggressive on the high end will be worthless without engine management. I'm hoping to see some crazy low end numbers. the top end will come eventually. Best 60' 1.959 best 1/4 - 13.7 @ 101mph

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! Lucky_317 #374479 Jan 18, 6:33am Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,337 Pittsburgh, PA celicadragon Specialist 2002 Toyota Celica celicadragon Specialist 2002 Toyota Celica Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,337 Pittsburgh, PA hey, we need low end more than anything else right now since we make most of our other power up top anyway respect the gt-s

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! dougied #374480 Jan 18, 10:21am Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 11 Netherlands, Europe JongBing Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Turbo JongBing Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Turbo Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 11 Netherlands, Europe Originally Posted by dougied To bAD i dont know shit about cars or cams, i just own a Gt which i am learning about. Anyone wanan break it down for a novice like myself ? Very useful: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/camshaft.htm

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! JongBing #374481 Jan 18, 11:46am Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 439 Springfield, VA JSPITZ Senior Member 2004 Toyota Celica JSPITZ Senior Member 2004 Toyota Celica Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 439 Springfield, VA the mugen cam's for the RSX turned out 20 whp on the dyno. crower is one of the best companies in the industry so its safe to say gains will be pretty nice, depending on your setup and tuning

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! JSPITZ #374482 Jan 18, 12:30pm Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 240 Virginia ryizzle Member 00 Toyota Celica ryizzle Member 00 Toyota Celica Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 240 Virginia omfg im so excited! i gotta wait for some graphs although but i betthey will be great, just gotta be sure. Took the brakes off cause they slow me down

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! ryizzle #374483 Jan 18, 2:53pm Joined: May 2004 Posts: 283 Elk Grove, California shoulin Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT shoulin Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: May 2004 Posts: 283 Elk Grove, California $438 for the pair... hmmm should i do it???? and put body kit on hold or no? i have till 5pm to decide

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! shoulin #374484 Jan 18, 3:17pm Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,137 Woodland Hills, CA ct C'mon & hit me! 2000 Toyota Celica GTS ct C'mon & hit me! 2000 Toyota Celica GTS Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,137 Woodland Hills, CA Originally Posted by shoulin $438 for the pair... hmmm should i do it???? and put body kit on hold or no? i have till 5pm to decide you're deciding between cams and a bodykit?? hint: CAMS!!!!!

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! ct #374485 Jan 18, 3:20pm Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 240 Virginia ryizzle Member 00 Toyota Celica ryizzle Member 00 Toyota Celica Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 240 Virginia ...unless if the body kit gives you more power of course Took the brakes off cause they slow me down

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! ryizzle #374486 Jan 18, 3:41pm Joined: May 2004 Posts: 283 Elk Grove, California shoulin Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT shoulin Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: May 2004 Posts: 283 Elk Grove, California coo shit, just ordered them, said he had hella calls today about ppl that saw the screen shot of that pdf that they e-mailed to that guy, i asked why he didnt have it up on the website yet, he said Honda's are priority .. pfft i guess there are too many honpoos out there stage 1 shipped + tax = $480 ME equals one happy dude! Last edited by shoulin; Jan 18, 2005 3:44pm.

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! shoulin #374487 Jan 18, 3:43pm Joined: May 2004 Posts: 283 Elk Grove, California shoulin Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT shoulin Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: May 2004 Posts: 283 Elk Grove, California ill get results up when i get em done, wheres a good place to get my shit dynoed? i wanna do a before and after but dont wanna pay an arm and a legg for it

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! shoulin #374488 Jan 18, 3:50pm Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,137 Woodland Hills, CA ct C'mon & hit me! 2000 Toyota Celica GTS ct C'mon & hit me! 2000 Toyota Celica GTS Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,137 Woodland Hills, CA Originally Posted by shoulin i wanna do a before and after but dont wanna pay an arm and a legg for it option a) get some knee pads and some lube and offer yourself to the dyno-guy as he gives you a special discount for your services option b)suck it up because performance and tuning ain't cheap...

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! ct #374489 Jan 18, 3:57pm Joined: May 2004 Posts: 283 Elk Grove, California shoulin Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT shoulin Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: May 2004 Posts: 283 Elk Grove, California ^^^^^^ people on fourms are so nice huh? LOL!!

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! shoulin #374490 Jan 18, 4:15pm Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 415 California BigTony Senior Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT BigTony Senior Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 415 California yeah, and make sure you hurry up w/ the install & dyno, i wanna see what these cams can do

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! BigTony #374491 Jan 18, 4:48pm Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,241 Fontana, CA Lucky_317 Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica Lucky_317 Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,241 Fontana, CA too bad you're from nor cal. I have a dyno place that I work with alot. but we're a bit far from you lol Best 60' 1.959 best 1/4 - 13.7 @ 101mph

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! Lucky_317 #374492 Jan 19, 6:13am Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,371 ATL GA AZZKIKR SHO - NUFF 2003 Toyota Celica GT AZZKIKR SHO - NUFF 2003 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,371 ATL GA way to go man...can't wait to see what they do...

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! AZZKIKR #374493 Jan 19, 6:54am Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,337 Pittsburgh, PA celicadragon Specialist 2002 Toyota Celica celicadragon Specialist 2002 Toyota Celica Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,337 Pittsburgh, PA good luck respect the gt-s

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! BigTony #374494 Jan 19, 10:12am Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3 springfield, va wylecoyote New Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT wylecoyote New Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3 springfield, va Originally Posted by BigTony how much more hp gain do you think you could get if you hit 8krpm in GT? your going to need a lot more than just cams to rev safely to 8k 2000 Celica GT 5spd 15.406 @ 89.39mph

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! wylecoyote #374495 Jan 19, 12:21pm Joined: May 2004 Posts: 283 Elk Grove, California shoulin Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT shoulin Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: May 2004 Posts: 283 Elk Grove, California cams are for low end power/take off, hitting 8k would be pointless for us

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! shoulin #374496 Jan 19, 5:22pm Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,371 ATL GA AZZKIKR SHO - NUFF 2003 Toyota Celica GT AZZKIKR SHO - NUFF 2003 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,371 ATL GA you would need a completely built head with new valves, stiffer springs, and stronger retainers to hit above 8k in a GT... matt at Monkey wrench hits 8300 rpm with his turboed 1zz spyder but all of his engine is built using the MWR parts

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! Polykarb #374497 Jan 19, 5:45pm Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 60 New Haven, CT Ryo Member 2002 Toyota Celica Ryo Member 2002 Toyota Celica Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 60 New Haven, CT Originally Posted by Polykarb I don't understand this. They can build new and better internals for 1ZZ but not 2ZZ. Companies have lost their damn minds to not develop parts for a car thats been around since '72. Yeah i really couldn't agree more bro...

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! Ryo #374498 Jan 19, 5:55pm Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 60 New Haven, CT Ryo Member 2002 Toyota Celica Ryo Member 2002 Toyota Celica Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 60 New Haven, CT If they do make cams for 2zz i WILL BRAKE the 225hp line for all motor celi's! I plan on braking it even with out the cams so w/e... Just get ready to give me props in a month that's all i'm saying for now...

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! Ryo #374499 Jan 19, 6:31pm Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 10,110 Milford, NJ VSGTS14 05 WRB 2005 Subaru WRX STi VSGTS14 05 WRB 2005 Subaru WRX STi Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 10,110 Milford, NJ lol its called N/A SUBARU TECNICA INTERNATIONAL

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! VSGTS14 #374500 Jan 19, 6:46pm Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,371 ATL GA AZZKIKR SHO - NUFF 2003 Toyota Celica GT AZZKIKR SHO - NUFF 2003 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,371 ATL GA its probably because the 1zz has been around for like 7 years now

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! AZZKIKR #374501 Jan 19, 7:06pm Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 10,110 Milford, NJ VSGTS14 05 WRB 2005 Subaru WRX STi VSGTS14 05 WRB 2005 Subaru WRX STi Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 10,110 Milford, NJ 1zz is def old motor 2zz is new when celica was introduced and they are still altering it they should make a really powerful motor with lift that would be nutz SUBARU TECNICA INTERNATIONAL

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! VSGTS14 #374502 Jan 19, 9:00pm Joined: May 2004 Posts: 283 Elk Grove, California shoulin Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT shoulin Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: May 2004 Posts: 283 Elk Grove, California dudes the 2zz cams are being tested this upcoming week by lucky, he's gunna dyno the TPR's for them, so chill u'll have ur cams soooon

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! shoulin #374503 Jan 20, 11:06am Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 336 Florida jav8or Member 2002 Toyota Celica jav8or Member 2002 Toyota Celica Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 336 Florida Originally Posted by shoulin dudes the 2zz cams are being tested this upcoming week by lucky, he's gunna dyno the TPR's for them, so chill u'll have ur cams soooon yeah, but heard they are testing for more low end to mid range power in short, im not expecting radical high end gains. im still interested in tpr's headers. r they still coming out? 8600 rpm killer!!!!!!

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! Ryo #374504 Jan 20, 11:10am Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 336 Florida jav8or Member 2002 Toyota Celica jav8or Member 2002 Toyota Celica Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 336 Florida Originally Posted by Ryo If they do make cams for 2zz i WILL BRAKE the 225hp line for all motor celi's! I plan on braking it even with out the cams so w/e... Just get ready to give me props in a month that's all i'm saying for now... if you do it that would be great, 225whp in a 2500lbs car, n/a = sick as F... but even with cams i dont see you break 200whp without a decent header... ...well maybe with a custom cat back..idk 8600 rpm killer!!!!!!

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! Ryo #374505 Jan 20, 2:35pm Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,241 Fontana, CA Lucky_317 Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica Lucky_317 Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,241 Fontana, CA Originally Posted by Ryo If they do make cams for 2zz i WILL BRAKE the 225hp line for all motor celi's! I plan on braking it even with out the cams so w/e... Just get ready to give me props in a month that's all i'm saying for now... you have no proof that you're even close. G-tech doesnt count. we cant even verify you used the correct inputs. the current best on the boards is 194 whp and it was never duplicated or verified within 1%. his 2nd highest dyno same mods was 188 whp. I'm at 185whp. you WILL NOT be hitting 225 whp like I alread stated in your other thread. I understand you're excited about the mods you "think" gave you power but please don't spread bad information cause you really have NO CLUE what kinda power you have. thanx Best 60' 1.959 best 1/4 - 13.7 @ 101mph

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! Lucky_317 #374506 Jan 20, 2:37pm Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,137 Woodland Hills, CA ct C'mon & hit me! 2000 Toyota Celica GTS ct C'mon & hit me! 2000 Toyota Celica GTS Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,137 Woodland Hills, CA Originally Posted by Lucky_317 Originally Posted by Ryo If they do make cams for 2zz i WILL BRAKE the 225hp line for all motor celi's! I plan on braking it even with out the cams so w/e... Just get ready to give me props in a month that's all i'm saying for now... you have no proof that you're even close. G-tech doesnt count. we cant even verify you used the correct inputs. the current best on the boards is 194 whp and it was never duplicated or verified within 1%. his 2nd highest dyno same mods was 188 whp. I'm at 185whp. you WILL NOT be hitting 225 whp like I alread stated in your other thread. I understand you're excited about the mods you "think" gave you power but please don't spread bad information cause you really have NO CLUE what kinda power you have. thanx lucky...you already powned him on the previous thread and i have already told him several times he has not gained anything from this 'chip'...let him be and when he gets a timeslip or dyno then he'll know.

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! ct #374507 Jan 20, 2:38pm Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 476 Mass Easy_C Senior Member 2000 Toyota Celica Easy_C Senior Member 2000 Toyota Celica Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 476 Mass maybe i should bust out graphs...oh wait...wrong website... TPR Intake! - Injens high end with AEM's low end and NO BOGGING! TPR EXHAUST! - Exhaust made 10.5 whp peak and 32 whp at 6300 on my car!!!

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! ct #374508 Jan 20, 2:38pm Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,241 Fontana, CA Lucky_317 Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica Lucky_317 Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,241 Fontana, CA Best 60' 1.959 best 1/4 - 13.7 @ 101mph

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! Easy_C #374509 Jan 20, 2:47pm Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,137 Woodland Hills, CA ct C'mon & hit me! 2000 Toyota Celica GTS ct C'mon & hit me! 2000 Toyota Celica GTS Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,137 Woodland Hills, CA Originally Posted by Easy_C maybe i should bust out graphs...oh wait...wrong website... oh c'mon...don't you miss the impatient 'dyno-hounding' just a little bit?...

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! ct #374510 Jan 22, 9:42am Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,125 Philadelphia, PA Sultan Speed Omen 2002 Toyota Celica GT Sultan Speed Omen 2002 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,125 Philadelphia, PA looks like I have another performance mod to buy...

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! Sultan #374511 Jan 23, 9:10am Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 132 Delaware CelicaCrazy Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT CelicaCrazy Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 132 Delaware Can someone tell me where on the website you found these cause i looked everywhere on there and couldn't find any cams for 1zz.

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! CelicaCrazy #374512 Jan 23, 2:19pm Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,371 ATL GA AZZKIKR SHO - NUFF 2003 Toyota Celica GT AZZKIKR SHO - NUFF 2003 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,371 ATL GA not on the website... I emailed him and the graphs on page 1 of the thread are from the email that crower shot back to me

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! AZZKIKR #374513 Jan 23, 5:02pm Joined: May 2004 Posts: 283 Elk Grove, California shoulin Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT shoulin Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: May 2004 Posts: 283 Elk Grove, California u have to call crower urself (619) 661-6477 extension #130 for the import guy

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! shoulin #374514 Jan 23, 9:18pm Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,241 Fontana, CA Lucky_317 Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica Lucky_317 Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,241 Fontana, CA my teamate johnsgt officially has the first 1zz F/I cams. we installed them yesterday along with new springs and valves. I'll try to get the pics up in a few minutes. they looked very good. cant wait to get em on the dyno. Best 60' 1.959 best 1/4 - 13.7 @ 101mph

Re: 1zz cams FINALLY! Lucky_317 #374515 Jan 23, 10:38pm Joined: May 2004 Posts: 283 Elk Grove, California shoulin Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT shoulin Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: May 2004 Posts: 283 Elk Grove, California ^^^ my cams should be here tomorrow! how was the install, how long it take u, and how was the feel afterwards? *****could you post an install or just a quick heads up on anything you ran into i should know? Last edited by shoulin; Jan 23, 2005 10:41pm.

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