The one word that appeals to me about the TRD supercharger is Warrenty. If toyota put it in, you would still have warrenty which in the long run may be better than HP, to me at least.
One thought about the hood. I wonder if VIS could play with their invader hood and make the first hump big enough to clear the supercharger. Budda bing, problem solved!
Although that s/c may not produce big peak hp/tq, it will make for a sweet ass daily driver.
yup...here's how i see it so far (although again the numbers for the trd s/c are only speculation)
TRD S/C pros- -CARB -no "turbo lag", a little better take off from a stop -toyota part that will hold up warranties cost:(according to 1zz s/c for matrix/corolla) 2995-2500 for s/c alone
DD/SF turbo pros- -more power:SF turbo dyno'd at 230 to the wheels as opposed to 1zz engine claiming only 166hp to flywheel on 130hp cars. -you get that cool sound from the blow off valve -you can use the OEM hood without any modifications cost:3600-3100 for the whole kit
Thats the most retarded thing I have ever heard of... Lets build two engines, one with 140 horsepower and one with 180. Then lets come up with a real power booster for the stupid little engine so it will go as fast as our naturally aspirated 180hp engine. Thats stupid, how is Toyota going to have a fast car out there if all they can do is boost the performance of the crappy little Corolla engine? Ticks me off because I have a GTS and I want to be able to pull up next to a S2000 or VW Jetta that has mods and run with it. Well all I can tell you is somebody that has a GT all hopped up is not even going to be able to do much against a slightly modified GTS much less some other performance car. DUMB, thats all i got to say!
Thats the most retarded thing I have ever heard of... Lets build two engines, one with 140 horsepower and one with 180. Then lets come up with a real power booster for the stupid little engine so it will go as fast as our naturally aspirated 180hp engine. Thats stupid, how is Toyota going to have a fast car out there if all they can do is boost the performance of the crappy little Corolla engine? Ticks me off because I have a GTS and I want to be able to pull up next to a S2000 or VW Jetta that has mods and run with it. Well all I can tell you is somebody that has a GT all hopped up is not even going to be able to do much against a slightly modified GTS much less some other performance car. DUMB, thats all i got to say!
a turbo or s/c gt will beat any NA gts...gts has the power in lift but f/i is throughout the powerband.
Thats the most retarded thing I have ever heard of... Lets build two engines, one with 140 horsepower and one with 180. Then lets come up with a real power booster for the stupid little engine so it will go as fast as our naturally aspirated 180hp engine. Thats stupid, how is Toyota going to have a fast car out there if all they can do is boost the performance of the crappy little Corolla engine? Ticks me off because I have a GTS and I want to be able to pull up next to a S2000 or VW Jetta that has mods and run with it. Well all I can tell you is somebody that has a GT all hopped up is not even going to be able to do much against a slightly modified GTS much less some other performance car. DUMB, thats all i got to say!
ok
wow. obviously you're very upset. but if you wanted to run with an S2000 then you shold have gotten a car that was MR or RWD and if you wanted to keep up with a modded jetta then you should do mods yourself. in it's class the celi corners great...if you want more power on your GTS then supercharge it...or turbo is with SF turbo comming out. if they can squeeze 230 whp from a "dumb little engine" like a celi GT then imagine how much they can squeeze out of a GTS.
relax man...besides i think having the s/c for my "dub" GT is great. i don't need 230 hp...but a little more from the 140 i have wouldn't hurt
i heard modes on a GT not help mutch is it tru? And its cooler to beat a car with out the turbo. If you have turbo he will notce it and it will not be so cool kill. its not cool win a race if you have 200 more horse power hehehe To celicas GT N/A car VS a Turbo its no Fun. And will a GT smoke GTS if the GT has a supercharger?
[quote=ayoung02]Thats the most retarded thing I have ever heard of... Lets build two engines, one with 140 horsepower and one with 180. Then lets come up with a real power booster for the stupid little engine so it will go as fast as our naturally aspirated 180hp engine. Thats stupid, how is Toyota going to have a fast car out there if all they can do is boost the performance of the crappy little Corolla engine? Ticks me off because I have a GTS and I want to be able to pull up next to a S2000 or VW Jetta that has mods and run with it. Well all I can tell you is somebody that has a GT all hopped up is not even going to be able to do much against a slightly modified GTS much less some other performance car. DUMB, thats all i got to say!
a modified gt vs. stock gts is actually a fairly good race...my friend has a 5 spd gt with a fidanza flywheel, ACT clutch, i/h/e, aem pulley, trd shortshifter,and drag radials on his stock 15 in. alloys, took my stock 6 spd by a lil less than one car length...throw in the trd s/c in the mix with the current mods on the 1zz and Im not really sure if my now slightly modded GTS can hang (exhaust, intake) ...until I save enough money for f/i! So 1zz owners should look into this
ok good for me heheh since i got the GT but when can i buy the SC? And is it posibble to buy a hood lik on the pics or is he made it him self? sry if this stands in the post!!! is a couple of days since i read it
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ok good for me heheh since i got the GT but when can i buy the SC? And is it posibble to buy a hood lik on the pics or is he made it him self? sry if this stands in the post!!! is a couple of days since i read it
by your mention of "HE", you are referring to "TRD"
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:[/b] Can you install a short ram intake w/the TRD supercharger
it uses some sort of short ram to draw air doesn't it?...if not then you could definately install one...but it might have to be custom if they dont make it.
so with the front lip or whatever you want to call it on the vis invader hood do you think the supercharger would fit or would it have to be modified to fit the s/c
so with the front lip or whatever you want to call it on the vis invader hood do you think the supercharger would fit or would it have to be modified to fit the s/c
check the photos on the first page...
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Eeeh, why you guys want that TRD charger so badly ? I think it looks terrible and why the hell did they ever made it when it doesnt even fit under the hood.
Why you guys dont get the Blitz supercharger ? It costs more but then again, it fits under the hood, and comes with an intercooler. And i think it will even give you more power then the TRD one.
Eeeh, why you guys want that TRD charger so badly ? I think it looks terrible and why the hell did they ever made it when it doesnt even fit under the hood.
Why you guys dont get the Blitz supercharger ? It costs more but then again, it fits under the hood, and comes with an intercooler. And i think it will even give you more power then the TRD one.
This is from page 2 and 3 of this thread about the Blitz kit...
From rovare99... The one word that appeals to me about the TRD supercharger is Warrenty. If toyota put it in, you would still have warrenty which in the long run may be better than HP, to me at least.
From ct... TRD S/C pros- -CARB -no "turbo lag", a little better take off from a stop -toyota part that will hold up warranties cost:(according to 1zz s/c for matrix/corolla) 2995-2500 for s/c alone
DD/SF turbo pros- -more power:SF turbo dyno'd at 230 to the wheels as opposed to 1zz engine claiming only 166hp to flywheel on 130hp cars. -you get that cool sound from the blow off valve -you can use the OEM hood without any modifications cost:3600-3100 for the whole kit
From Steven ... i dont think they're designing their s/c so it can be dragged.
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The blitz kit is totally different, first off, it's for the 2zz, and is dialed in for that motor.
The primary reson why the blitz kit will fit, and the TRD kit doesn't, is that the blitz kit has a roots-type blower mounted to a manifold that will clear our roofline. the TRD kit has a manifold that was designed around the corolla and matrix. the manifold is longer, so you need to cut a hole in the hood.
On some of satoshi's pics, a trd equipped GT celica had a HUGE bulge in the hood, this new kit looks like it's manifold has been redesigned, still needs a hole in the hood, and a cowl, but it's a lot lower in profile than early setups.
Blitz is known for their engineering, TRD is looking at daily drivability with their kit.
BTW, the 2zz is far from being phased out, the new corolla GTS will run a lower compression, stroked version of the 2ZZ that will make 170HP @ 7000 RPM!
The blitz kit is totally different, first off, it's for the 2zz, and is dialed in for that motor.
The primary reson why the blitz kit will fit, and the TRD kit doesn't, is that the blitz kit has a roots-type blower mounted to a manifold that will clear our roofline. the TRD kit has a manifold that was designed around the corolla and matrix. the manifold is longer, so you need to cut a hole in the hood.
On some of satoshi's pics, a trd equipped GT celica had a HUGE bulge in the hood, this new kit looks like it's manifold has been redesigned, still needs a hole in the hood, and a cowl, but it's a lot lower in profile than early setups.
Blitz is known for their engineering, TRD is looking at daily drivability with their kit.
BTW, the 2zz is far from being phased out, the new corolla GTS will run a lower compression, stroked version of the 2ZZ that will make 170HP @ 7000 RPM!
the charger will fit under your stock hood, that first car with the hole cut looks like the body was lowered, so the hood came down too far. the matrix has the same engine as your gt's so you can bolt on the super charger from the matrixes,,, also the same, the problem is they dont have a program for the charger for celicas yet, it should be out very soon though. I think that the charger will not be made for the gts 's because (correct me if im wrong) the gts has to high compression and it would likely blow the engine. for the 3000 dallars you might as well go get a new engine with some better power, you can choose. hope i helped a lil bit
the charger will fit under your stock hood, that first car with the hole cut looks like the body was lowered, so the hood came down too far. the matrix has the same engine as your gt's so you can bolt on the super charger from the matrixes,,, also the same, the problem is they dont have a program for the charger for celicas yet, it should be out very soon though. I think that the charger will not be made for the gts 's because (correct me if im wrong) the gts has to high compression and it would likely blow the engine. for the 3000 dallars you might as well go get a new engine with some better power, you can choose. hope i helped a lil bit
I AGREE THAT THE CHRAGER IS THE SAME 1ZZ FOR THE MATRIX/COROLLA BUT AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO FIT UNDER THE HOOD...THE SPACE IN THE CELI ENGINE BAY IS DIFFRENT THAT IT'S OTHER 1ZZ "BROTHERS"...ooops caps..dammit...anyway even if the body is lowered wouldn't everything lower with it? please correct me if i am wrong because the charger would be great if it coudl fit on a stock hood. again i doubt it since this was the initial problem s/c'ing a celi.
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