My last car was an Elise and theres no way in hell you're going to make it any lighter. You can pick them up cheaper than Celicas if you're willing to have a second hand one though. Nothing in the interior to strip out because there is no interior. Just buy one without the optional air conditioning and radio. I had the S2 Sport 190 which wasn't the Toyota engine, just the modified K Series. It might only have had 190bhp, but like you said, weight counts for everything. It weighed 710kg which meant it had 272bhp per ton. Really was too fast and impractical for the road, but I used to do a lot of Lotus Elise trackdays so it was essential I had one of the quickest Elises.
Good luck making 710kg out of the Celica though. It'll never happen!
I've always loved the elises...I went to the UK 2 years ago to visit my cousin over there...While I was there I took a driving school at silverstone race way with the elises...they are awesome!!!!, and light as a feather... that and I visited the factory where they make the ULTIMA GTR ...OMG that's the most gorgeous automobile I've ever seen in my life
Yeah, I've done the day at Silverstone. Some competition I won through a tuning magazine. They were running the stanard S1 Elises. A tad underpowered but you're right they're great cars. S1s are a lot more oversteery than the S2, and more likely to send you backwards into someones house. Has to be said though the S1 is more fun on the track, especially on the limit. My friend managed to scrape together enough money for a 97' S1 and the prick drove it into a river the second day he had it. He now drives a 1.6 4 door Golf. HA HA HA.
^^^^^ LMAO!!!! yeah I got the whole thing lined up through an advert I saw in EVO magazine (I love that magazine, but costs a damn arm and leg to get the surscription here in the US)...its also where I got the idea to go check out the ULTIMA GTR shop...if you're over there you should go check it out...I forget where its at exactly but its worth going because the cars are simply hypnotizing.
Our GT st2-st3 Turbokit is 250-300hp its around 6000$ whith all the parts + labour. -turbo kit ( w. or w/o hybrid Turbo) -internals -fuel management -clutch
We are just installing an st2 kit on a USA spec car for "eurocelica"s car. Finishing it this weekend. He wanted to have (~300hp) the same power like you. We will see if the USA spec tranny can hold it or not. Euro spec can.
back to the subject of engines, if you have the money for the engine swap, it comes with an AWD upgrade...? That means that you can mod it till your penniless and still have traction...right? that would be great...
yup...you can build one serious celica with the AWD 3sGTE...you may have to spend a little money and buy an old all-trac for parts shouldn't be much (suspension pieces)...but you'd have one hellacious and dominating celica (not to mention good-looking), and yes, you could mod it until you are penniless...very easily
oh, so you wont be able to mod it with regular parts because it has the engine of a all-trac. It would be easier if they could just make the celicas with more power to begin with...for instance, they could start out by making it AWD, and have larger cylinders rather than the sucky 1.8 liter... , still love the celica though
if you put the 3sgte into the 7th gen celica...you won't be able to put normal 1zz/2zz parts into the celica (or parts that are listed for 00-04 celica GT/GTS)...but with the 3sGTE in the celica you'll be able to mod the all holy out of your celi...and you'll be able to beat the hell out of most cars on the street
get a 3sgte engine swap for like 10,000 dollars and you hav over 500 hp
check out autodex some time, they have totalled celis and mr2s with the 3sgte all a whole car that's been totalled for like 1800, so yeah, by the time you end up installing it you're probably looking around 10000 out the door. but definately worth your while if you want a celi that'll make others go WTF.
have anyone seen a 3sgte engine and awd tranny atached to it? i'm pretty sure the people who have,are not the ones saying,yes go 3sgte and awd! unless you want to cut the firewall of the celica and do a shit load of fabrication work,the awd trannty will not work in the 7th gen celica! the tranny that will work is the mr2 Turbo tranny,the 1990 to 1999 celica gt tranny,and a few tranny from the v6 camrys.the exact years i cant remember.
to stop all this awd talk,the awd tranny has the rear housing,thats where the shaft that runs to the rear diff.comes out of,its really huge and wraps around the back of the engine and sticks back.it will not physically fit in a 7th gen celica unless you cut something,alot of somethings! the stock Intake manifold,cant even fit,without hitting the back of the engine bay,muchless the rear housing on the tranny. and lets not forget that engine/tranny combo was designed for a different car,the housing points straight down the middle with the shaft coming out,and the exhuast,clearing the cross member(it doesnt run the same as the nonturbo cause the housing and rear shaft now sits where the exhaust usually run.thats only for the awd tranny,thats why,the other trannys are used as opposed to the awd one.
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