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Hi everyone. I'm brand new to this website... it looks fantastic.

I'm seriously thinking about buying my first new car soon, and I want it to be the '05 Celica. Of course, I have no idea what they will look like, but I love the current design and I'm sure they'll be tight.

I understand that there are rumors that the car won't even exist. I don't believe them. Here's my question...

When can we expect to see a 2005 Celica in showrooms? Or even, when can we expect to see pictures of them?

What month does Toyota typically release the following model years? Thanks!

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i'd guess in between summer and fall

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because the 2005 are mostly redesigned, I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think during spring, we could start to see pics of some of the 05 models...
such as the 2005 NY Auto Show is usually when most 2005 models for manufacturers are released..but we will see...

and i'm not completely sure, it's a new gen, so i suspect it's already made, but in the hiding...because at an auto show is when manufacturers want to let the news out, instead of hiding it...

it's not definite yet, but i'll keep everyone imformed on it, my dad doesn't even know anything yet. idunno


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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
because the 2005 are mostly redesigned, I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think during spring, we could start to see pics of some of the 05 models...
such as the 2005 NY Auto Show is usually when most 2005 models for manufacturers are released..but we will see...

and i'm not completely sure, it's a new gen, so i suspect it's already made, but in the hiding...because at an auto show is when manufacturers want to let the news out, instead of hiding it...

it's not definite yet, but i'll keep everyone imformed on it, my dad doesn't even know anything yet. idunno
Exactly what he said...except we all know your dad knows the new celica will be yet another joint venture with pontiac and be a sunfire/celica hybrid... rofl

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Originally Posted by LostAngel
Originally Posted by VSGTS14
because the 2005 are mostly redesigned, I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think during spring, we could start to see pics of some of the 05 models...
such as the 2005 NY Auto Show is usually when most 2005 models for manufacturers are released..but we will see...

and i'm not completely sure, it's a new gen, so i suspect it's already made, but in the hiding...because at an auto show is when manufacturers want to let the news out, instead of hiding it...

it's not definite yet, but i'll keep everyone imformed on it, my dad doesn't even know anything yet. idunno
Exactly what he said...except we all know your dad knows the new celica will be yet another joint venture with pontiac and be a sunfire/celica hybrid... rofl

lol...you're crazy spineyes


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Originally Posted by LostAngel
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because the 2005 are mostly redesigned, I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think during spring, we could start to see pics of some of the 05 models...
such as the 2005 NY Auto Show is usually when most 2005 models for manufacturers are released..but we will see...

and i'm not completely sure, it's a new gen, so i suspect it's already made, but in the hiding...because at an auto show is when manufacturers want to let the news out, instead of hiding it...

it's not definite yet, but i'll keep everyone imformed on it, my dad doesn't even know anything yet. idunno
Exactly what he said...except we all know your dad knows the new celica will be yet another joint venture with pontiac and be a sunfire/celica hybrid... rofl

lol...you're crazy spineyes
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I work for a toyota dealer and have heard nothing of a redesigned celica. From what I understand it will be same as this one just 2005. However I have a meeting with my dealer rep next week and I will be sure to ask him about that.


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Originally Posted by carinv1175
I work for a toyota dealer and have heard nothing of a redesigned celica. From what I understand it will be same as this one just 2005. However I have a meeting with my dealer rep next week and I will be sure to ask him about that.

my dad owns a Toyota dealership and is vice president of Toyota Dealer's Association for the New York Region wave

lol, he would know too and Toyota hasn't released anything yet grin


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So to answer the question Nov. or Dec 2004.


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Your right toyota hasn't officially released anything yet but my rep may know something about thier intensions.
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Originally Posted by carinv1175
I work for a toyota dealer and have heard nothing of a redesigned celica. From what I understand it will be same as this one just 2005. However I have a meeting with my dealer rep next week and I will be sure to ask him about that.

my dad owns a Toyota dealership and is vice president of Toyota Dealer's Association for the New York Region wave

lol, he would know too and Toyota hasn't released anything yet grin


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dude, new models come in before 2005...especially when they are redesigned. grin


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Btw ? dealership does he own?
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Originally Posted by carinv1175
I work for a toyota dealer and have heard nothing of a redesigned celica. From what I understand it will be same as this one just 2005. However I have a meeting with my dealer rep next week and I will be sure to ask him about that.

my dad owns a Toyota dealership and is vice president of Toyota Dealer's Association for the New York Region wave

lol, he would know too and Toyota hasn't released anything yet grin


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Originally Posted by carinv1175
I work for a toyota dealer and have heard nothing of a redesigned celica. From what I understand it will be same as this one just 2005. However I have a meeting with my dealer rep next week and I will be sure to ask him about that.
I doubt it will be the same as now...just an 05. It's going to be a TOTAL redesign...new look...new engine(?)...new everything. Every generation has been so drastically changed. Most cars you can still they are a 'mustang'...or a 'sunfire'...but with celica? If you didnt know any better, you wouldnt know a 4th from a 5th from a 7th. thumbsup

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Originally Posted by carinv1175
Btw ? dealership does he own?
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Originally Posted by carinv1175
I work for a toyota dealer and have heard nothing of a redesigned celica. From what I understand it will be same as this one just 2005. However I have a meeting with my dealer rep next week and I will be sure to ask him about that.

my dad owns a Toyota dealership and is vice president of Toyota Dealer's Association for the New York Region wave

lol, he would know too and Toyota hasn't released anything yet grin

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Originally Posted by LostAngel
Originally Posted by carinv1175
I work for a toyota dealer and have heard nothing of a redesigned celica. From what I understand it will be same as this one just 2005. However I have a meeting with my dealer rep next week and I will be sure to ask him about that.
I doubt it will be the same as now...just an 05. It's going to be a TOTAL redesign...new look...new engine(?)...new everything. Every generation has been so drastically changed. Most cars you can still they are a 'mustang'...or a 'sunfire'...but with celica? If you didnt know any better, you wouldnt know a 4th from a 5th from a 7th. thumbsup

it's a full redesign thumbsup


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With the Celica, 4 RUNNER, Tacoma, Land Cruiser Toyota does not have a 5 yr rule like on the camry or corolla or avalon so there is no guarantee they will redesign them especially since according to toyota this celica has been somewhat of a failure.
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Originally Posted by carinv1175
I work for a toyota dealer and have heard nothing of a redesigned celica. From what I understand it will be same as this one just 2005. However I have a meeting with my dealer rep next week and I will be sure to ask him about that.
I doubt it will be the same as now...just an 05. It's going to be a TOTAL redesign...new look...new engine(?)...new everything. Every generation has been so drastically changed. Most cars you can still they are a 'mustang'...or a 'sunfire'...but with celica? If you didnt know any better, you wouldnt know a 4th from a 5th from a 7th. thumbsup


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I hope your right but I wouldn't bet on it.Originally posted by VSGTS14]
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Originally Posted by carinv1175
I work for a toyota dealer and have heard nothing of a redesigned celica. From what I understand it will be same as this one just 2005. However I have a meeting with my dealer rep next week and I will be sure to ask him about that.
I doubt it will be the same as now...just an 05. It's going to be a TOTAL redesign...new look...new engine(?)...new everything. Every generation has been so drastically changed. Most cars you can still they are a 'mustang'...or a 'sunfire'...but with celica? If you didnt know any better, you wouldnt know a 4th from a 5th from a 7th. thumbsup

it's a full redesign thumbsup [/quote]


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Originally Posted by carinv1175
With the Celica, 4 RUNNER, Tacoma, Land Cruiser Toyota does not have a 5 yr rule like on the camry or corolla or avalon so there is no guarantee they will redesign them especially since according to toyota this celica has been somewhat of a failure.
Originally Posted by LostAngel
Originally Posted by carinv1175
I work for a toyota dealer and have heard nothing of a redesigned celica. From what I understand it will be same as this one just 2005. However I have a meeting with my dealer rep next week and I will be sure to ask him about that.
I doubt it will be the same as now...just an 05. It's going to be a TOTAL redesign...new look...new engine(?)...new everything. Every generation has been so drastically changed. Most cars you can still they are a 'mustang'...or a 'sunfire'...but with celica? If you didnt know any better, you wouldnt know a 4th from a 5th from a 7th. thumbsup

Toyota confirmed a redesign about 2 years ago and also recently it was restated in an issue of Automotive News


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I would like to see that article.
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Originally Posted by carinv1175
With the Celica, 4 RUNNER, Tacoma, Land Cruiser Toyota does not have a 5 yr rule like on the camry or corolla or avalon so there is no guarantee they will redesign them especially since according to toyota this celica has been somewhat of a failure.
Originally Posted by LostAngel
Originally Posted by carinv1175
I work for a toyota dealer and have heard nothing of a redesigned celica. From what I understand it will be same as this one just 2005. However I have a meeting with my dealer rep next week and I will be sure to ask him about that.
I doubt it will be the same as now...just an 05. It's going to be a TOTAL redesign...new look...new engine(?)...new everything. Every generation has been so drastically changed. Most cars you can still they are a 'mustang'...or a 'sunfire'...but with celica? If you didnt know any better, you wouldnt know a 4th from a 5th from a 7th. thumbsup

Toyota confirmed a redesign about 2 years ago and also recently it was restated in an issue of Automotive News


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Originally Posted by carinv1175
I would like to see that article.
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Originally Posted by carinv1175
With the Celica, 4 RUNNER, Tacoma, Land Cruiser Toyota does not have a 5 yr rule like on the camry or corolla or avalon so there is no guarantee they will redesign them especially since according to toyota this celica has been somewhat of a failure.
Originally Posted by LostAngel
[quote=carinv1175]I work for a toyota dealer and have heard nothing of a redesigned celica. From what I understand it will be same as this one just 2005. However I have a meeting with my dealer rep next week and I will be sure to ask him about that.
I doubt it will be the same as now...just an 05. It's going to be a TOTAL redesign...new look...new engine(?)...new everything. Every generation has been so drastically changed. Most cars you can still they are a 'mustang'...or a 'sunfire'...but with celica? If you didnt know any better, you wouldnt know a 4th from a 5th from a 7th. thumbsup

Toyota confirmed a redesign about 2 years ago and also recently it was restated in an issue of Automotive News
[/quote]

it was actually posted in a thread not too long ago by DiabloGTS and I read it the following day thumbsup


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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
because the 2005 are mostly redesigned, I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think during spring, we could start to see pics of some of the 05 models...
such as the 2005 NY Auto Show is usually when most 2005 models for manufacturers are released..but we will see...

and i'm not completely sure, it's a new gen, so i suspect it's already made, but in the hiding...because at an auto show is when manufacturers want to let the news out, instead of hiding it...

it's not definite yet, but i'll keep everyone imformed on it, my dad doesn't even know anything yet. idunno

True that grin

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Can you tell me where to find it?
Originally Posted by VSGTS14
Originally Posted by carinv1175
I would like to see that article.
Originally Posted by VSGTS14
Originally Posted by carinv1175
With the Celica, 4 RUNNER, Tacoma, Land Cruiser Toyota does not have a 5 yr rule like on the camry or corolla or avalon so there is no guarantee they will redesign them especially since according to toyota this celica has been somewhat of a failure.[quote=LostAngel][quote=carinv1175]I work for a toyota dealer and have heard nothing of a redesigned celica. From what I understand it will be same as this one just 2005. However I have a meeting with my dealer rep next week and I will be sure to ask him about that.
I doubt it will be the same as now...just an 05. It's going to be a TOTAL redesign...new look...new engine(?)...new everything. Every generation has been so drastically changed. Most cars you can still they are a 'mustang'...or a 'sunfire'...but with celica? If you didnt know any better, you wouldnt know a 4th from a 5th from a 7th. thumbsup

Toyota confirmed a redesign about 2 years ago and also recently it was restated in an issue of Automotive News
[/quote]

it was actually posted in a thread not too long ago by DiabloGTS and I read it the following day thumbsup [/quote]


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Originally Posted by carinv1175
I hope your right but I wouldn't bet on it.Originally posted by VSGTS14]
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Originally Posted by carinv1175
I work for a toyota dealer and have heard nothing of a redesigned celica. From what I understand it will be same as this one just 2005. However I have a meeting with my dealer rep next week and I will be sure to ask him about that.
I doubt it will be the same as now...just an 05. It's going to be a TOTAL redesign...new look...new engine(?)...new everything. Every generation has been so drastically changed. Most cars you can still they are a 'mustang'...or a 'sunfire'...but with celica? If you didnt know any better, you wouldnt know a 4th from a 5th from a 7th. thumbsup

it's a full redesign thumbsup
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Billy has been right a lot of times. I trust him when he says things about the celica. Celica has usually changed every 5 years or so. And it is a full redesign.

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From 94 to 99 same body thats six model years right there.
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I hope your right but I wouldn't bet on it.Originally posted by VSGTS14]
Originally Posted by LostAngel
Originally Posted by carinv1175
I work for a toyota dealer and have heard nothing of a redesigned celica. From what I understand it will be same as this one just 2005. However I have a meeting with my dealer rep next week and I will be sure to ask him about that.
I doubt it will be the same as now...just an 05. It's going to be a TOTAL redesign...new look...new engine(?)...new everything. Every generation has been so drastically changed. Most cars you can still they are a 'mustang'...or a 'sunfire'...but with celica? If you didnt know any better, you wouldnt know a 4th from a 5th from a 7th. thumbsup

it's a full redesign thumbsup
Billy has been right a lot of times. I trust him when he says things about the celica. Celica has usually changed every 5 years or so. And it is a full redesign. [/quote]


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Originally Posted by carinv1175
From 94 to 99 same body thats six model years right there.
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I hope your right but I wouldn't bet on it.Originally posted by VSGTS14]
Originally Posted by LostAngel
[quote=carinv1175]I work for a toyota dealer and have heard nothing of a redesigned celica. From what I understand it will be same as this one just 2005. However I have a meeting with my dealer rep next week and I will be sure to ask him about that.
I doubt it will be the same as now...just an 05. It's going to be a TOTAL redesign...new look...new engine(?)...new everything. Every generation has been so drastically changed. Most cars you can still they are a 'mustang'...or a 'sunfire'...but with celica? If you didnt know any better, you wouldnt know a 4th from a 5th from a 7th. thumbsup

it's a full redesign thumbsup
Billy has been right a lot of times. I trust him when he says things about the celica. Celica has usually changed every 5 years or so. And it is a full redesign. [/quote] [/quote]
6 is around 5... grin

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Originally Posted by carinv1175
From 94 to 99 same body thats six model years right there.
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I hope your right but I wouldn't bet on it.Originally posted by VSGTS14]
Originally Posted by LostAngel
[quote=carinv1175]I work for a toyota dealer and have heard nothing of a redesigned celica. From what I understand it will be same as this one just 2005. However I have a meeting with my dealer rep next week and I will be sure to ask him about that.
I doubt it will be the same as now...just an 05. It's going to be a TOTAL redesign...new look...new engine(?)...new everything. Every generation has been so drastically changed. Most cars you can still they are a 'mustang'...or a 'sunfire'...but with celica? If you didnt know any better, you wouldnt know a 4th from a 5th from a 7th. thumbsup

it's a full redesign thumbsup
Billy has been right a lot of times. I trust him when he says things about the celica. Celica has usually changed every 5 years or so. And it is a full redesign. [/quote] [/quote]

it was 94-98...

Toyota discontinued the Celica in end of 98 and in most of 99, until they released the new generation


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Hey let get something straight here I am not arguing whethter it is going to be new or not. I will hopefully find out for sure tomorrow I already called my rep and he will get back to me. So I will post his response to the question tomorrow
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Originally Posted by carinv1175
From 94 to 99 same body thats six model years right there.
Originally Posted by LostAngel
Originally Posted by carinv1175
I hope your right but I wouldn't bet on it.Originally posted by VSGTS14][quote=LostAngel][quote=carinv1175]I work for a toyota dealer and have heard nothing of a redesigned celica. From what I understand it will be same as this one just 2005. However I have a meeting with my dealer rep next week and I will be sure to ask him about that.
I doubt it will be the same as now...just an 05. It's going to be a TOTAL redesign...new look...new engine(?)...new everything. Every generation has been so drastically changed. Most cars you can still they are a 'mustang'...or a 'sunfire'...but with celica? If you didnt know any better, you wouldnt know a 4th from a 5th from a 7th. thumbsup

it's a full redesign thumbsup
Billy has been right a lot of times. I trust him when he says things about the celica. Celica has usually changed every 5 years or so. And it is a full redesign. [/quote] [/quote]
6 is around 5... grin [/quote]


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Originally Posted by carinv1175
Hey let get something straight here I am not arguing whethter it is going to be new or not. I will hopefully find out for sure tomorrow I already called my rep and he will get back to me. So I will post his response to the question tomorrow
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Originally Posted by carinv1175
From 94 to 99 same body thats six model years right there.
Originally Posted by LostAngel
[quote=carinv1175]I hope your right but I wouldn't bet on it.Originally posted by VSGTS14][quote=LostAngel][quote=carinv1175]I work for a toyota dealer and have heard nothing of a redesigned celica. From what I understand it will be same as this one just 2005. However I have a meeting with my dealer rep next week and I will be sure to ask him about that.
I doubt it will be the same as now...just an 05. It's going to be a TOTAL redesign...new look...new engine(?)...new everything. Every generation has been so drastically changed. Most cars you can still they are a 'mustang'...or a 'sunfire'...but with celica? If you didnt know any better, you wouldnt know a 4th from a 5th from a 7th. thumbsup

it's a full redesign thumbsup
Billy has been right a lot of times. I trust him when he says things about the celica. Celica has usually changed every 5 years or so. And it is a full redesign. [/quote] [/quote]
6 is around 5... grin [/quote] [/quote]
nah man, im not trying to start anything with ya. Just trying to tell you what I have heard as well as what billy has. Billy has been right on everything he has told me.

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Dude you were what 12 in 99 I sold these before becoming a sales manager in 2000 I am sure you mean well but I can asure you there definitely was a1999 toyota Celica.
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From 94 to 99 same body thats six model years right there.
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I hope your right but I wouldn't bet on it.Originally posted by VSGTS14]
[quote=LostAngel]
[quote=carinv1175]
I work for a toyota dealer and have heard nothing of a redesigned celica. From what I understand it will be same as this one just 2005. However I have a meeting with my dealer rep next week and I will be sure to ask him about that.
I doubt it will be the same as now...just an 05. It's going to be a TOTAL redesign...new look...new engine(?)...new everything. Every generation has been so drastically changed. Most cars you can still they are a 'mustang'...or a 'sunfire'...but with celica? If you didnt know any better, you wouldnt know a 4th from a 5th from a 7th. thumbsup

it's a full redesign thumbsup
Billy has been right a lot of times. I trust him when he says things about the celica. Celica has usually changed every 5 years or so. And it is a full redesign. [/quote] [/quote]

it was 94-98...

Toyota discontinued the Celica in end of 98 and in most of 99, until they released the new generation [/quote]

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it was early 99 when it was discontinued I think...but it still doesn't really count as a full year.


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"In 1998 Toyota dropped the base model ST, and dealers received fewer (if any) Celicas. The speculation at the time was that the entire Celica line would be dropped."

my point is proven, you can't consider the 99 year an actual year for the celica, in 98 they killed it, only few to get around in 99 until they dropped it while working on the 2000 model.


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but they do consider it 94-99 model, but to be specific is what I am coming from...i could care less, topic dropped.


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You are correct there was limited production however the fact that ther was a 99 is all that needs to be said. Toyota could concievably do the same thing here. Which would mean we would not see a new celica till 2006.
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"In 1998 Toyota dropped the base model ST, and dealers received fewer (if any) Celicas. The speculation at the time was that the entire Celica line would be dropped."

my point is proven, you can't consider the 99 year an actual year for the celica, in 98 they killed it, only few to get around in 99 until they dropped it while working on the 2000 model.


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Alright I will post what i hear tomorrow.
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Here in Belgium the 6th gen ended in 1999 and the 7th gen started in october 1999 (GT)(guess you guys had to wait till 2000)(for the GTS it was 2000).
The 7th gen celica will end this year in Belgium. I know this for sure because the celica will become illegal to be selled (new emission rules, even more strict than in the USA).
But I don't know if there will be a new celica in 2005. The toyota dealer doesn't know either but suspects that the celica will be discontinued at least for a while (here in Belgium).

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weird...i guess most of us really don't know, since there were rumors of it being discontinued and then being redesigned and nothing...

i'll find out as much as i can.


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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
weird...i guess most of us really don't know, since there were rumors of it being discontinued and then being redesigned and nothing...

i'll find out as much as i can.
I'll try to find out too...i know this dude...his dad owns a celica dealership in NJ... rofl

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I found this...
This from the latest issue of Automobile Magazine:

The new model will continue the Back to Basics Philosophy-so far, all wheel drive is not in the cards. The reception to the current model's styling has been lukewarm,however, so Toyota's designers are investigating themes that are a 180 degree turn of those of the present car. US input, so critical in the styling of the current Celica, is rumoured to be of only secondary concern, to the product development team, a slap on the hands for the US studio. Release date is slated for late 2004 as a 2005 model.

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interesting grin


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interesting grin
Exactly. wink

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Ill's I know Im waiting till the '05's come out before I buy a Celi cause I was just going to buy an 00 or 01 before but the overall look is even better and the engine is fast ill pay a couple more thousand.

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Toyota should introduce the celica at Auto Show showrooms pretty soon. if car was already designed and all, it should be available for the public to view during April. Think about Solara, they had redesigned it and it was all a secret until April which was debuted at an auto show. so im hoping for it to release somtime in the next 2 months maximum. it better be better than the current ones.

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Originally Posted by stefanoc
Toyota should introduce the celica at Auto Show showrooms pretty soon. if car was already designed and all, it should be available for the public to view during April. Think about Solara, they had redesigned it and it was all a secret until April which was debuted at an auto show. so im hoping for it to release somtime in the next 2 months maximum. it better be better than the current ones.

yea, that's what I was saying...usually the NY Auto show grin


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Originally Posted by LostAngel
I found this...
This from the latest issue of Automobile Magazine:

The new model will continue the Back to Basics Philosophy-so far, all wheel drive is not in the cards. The reception to the current model's styling has been lukewarm,however, so Toyota's designers are investigating themes that are a 180 degree turn of those of the present car. US input, so critical in the styling of the current Celica, is rumoured to be of only secondary concern, to the product development team, a slap on the hands for the US studio. Release date is slated for late 2004 as a 2005 model.

Perfect! If I like the new look, I'll be the first the buy a 2005. I always wanted to drive around in a brand-spankin' new model. If I don't like the look, the 2004's will be dirt cheap. I'll buy one of those and save thousands. Its win-win smile

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technically, the 7th gen has been out since 99. Some celicas have assembly dates of 11/99, 12/99 so it's 6 years tongue

Search for the automotive news article, toyota confirmed the redesign, but said nothing else.


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O.K. everything else is just a rumor.

I spoke at length today with one of the sales reps from toyota and he said "There are no plans for a redesigned Celica for 2005". Now that does not mean that mid 2005 there will not be a redesigned 2006 but 2005 will not be redesigned.


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I am sure everyone has seen the new action package on the toyota website right.


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wasnt there many threads on many forums about toyota not bringing the celica to the US after 2004???

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