Celica Forums General Discussion Exterior Kazuma rant

My 2 cents... it's f*ckin loud as hell, backfires alittle at low rpm shifts.. pain in the ass if your trying to be quiet.. yet again I can't comment on the power gains, it's raining. That is all.

It wasn't designed for daily driving. I would never use it for daily driving. It's not too much for a street car IMO

It's not or it is? I mean I'm happy. Gonna have to invest in one of these.

http://www.suprastore.com/apn1si.html

Next week I'll buy one, I'll let you all know if it works or not.

Well what the hell did you expect? It has no resonator, nor is it street legal.

Depends which state your in, legal in Texas. No noise laws, checked when I was at the shop.

But it is most likely illegal due to the fact that it removes the Cat, and it won't pass emissions or an inspection.

What are you talking about? The Kazuma is not designed, nor does it, remove the cat.

LMAO

What are you talking about? The Kazuma is not designed, nor does it, remove the cat. [/quote]My bad, I meant the resonator.

Here is a federal statute from your state. The person or persons whom you consulted was wrong.

The Kazuma is illegal in Texas.

547.604. MUFFLER REQUIRED. (a) A motor vehicle
shall be equipped with a muffler in good working condition that
continually operates to prevent excessive or unusual noise.
(b) A person may not use a muffler cutout, bypass, or
similar device on a motor vehicle.

Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.

As far as emissions a kazuma will pass just fine, only the noise makes it illegal, and I don't have to worry about that here in texas.. my car isn't even registered in texas so I don't have to go through all that regular gestapo inspection bullshit.



EDIT: Do you see anywhere there where it specify's the limit of noise? I sure as hell don't.

Now you are saying it's illegal?

You said that it was legal because Texas doesn't have any noise laws, which is not true.

Read again genius. Here let me help you.

You said, only the noise makes it illegal.

And just because your car is registered out of state, you don't think you can get pulled over for breaking noise ordinances?

Well, I'm from Missouri, so I can murder people legally in Illinois.

That exhaust is illegal anywhere, any state. Texas does have noise ordinances also.

Genius.

Well genius. Here you are saying that it's legal.

Show me where excessive noise is defined and I will accept defeat, untill then.. put a sock in it.

Working on it. Hard to sift through thousands of statutes.

If you don't think Texas has noise ordinances, then I recommend taking a cruise with that thing in front of a police trafficed area, and find out the hard way.

Until then...

Here ya go...

Sec. 7.1106. Maximum permissible sound levels.

(a) In addition to the violations established by the preceding sections of this chapter, no person shall conduct, permit, or allow any activity or sound source to produce a sound discernible beyond the the property on which the sound is being generated that when measured as provided in Section 7.1107 of this Code exceeds 85 dB(A) during daytime hours and 70 dB(A) during nighttime hours for the respective areas described above.


Any sound that exceeds the dB(A) levels set forth in this section under the conditions and measurement criteria set forth in this chapter is a violation of this chapter. Evidence that an activity or sound source produces a sound that exceeds the dB(A) levels specified in this section shall be prima facie evidence of a sound nuisance that unreasonably disturbs, injures, or endangers the comfort, repose, health, peace, or safety of others in violation of this chapter.

(b) Regardless of the measurable dB(A) level established above and measured as provided in section 7.1107, below, the generator of any sound of such a nature as to cause persons occupying or using any property other than the property upon which the sound is being generated to experience physically detectable sound, vibrations or resonance at a distance of fifty (50') feet from the source of the sound ( measured as set out below) caused by the sound shall also be prima facie evidence of a sound that unreasonably disturbs, injures, or endangers the comfort, repose, health, peace, or safety of others in violation of this chapter.

Can you confirm that is infact the law for texas? And San Antonio must be different, because I passed three cops on my little drive today, not a one did a thing.

I took it directly from Texas Revised Statutes.

It also depends on whether or not the cop wants to bust you or not. Some don't care, while some hate kids with sporty cars, and will pull them over for no reason at all, and then find a reason to write a ticket. Almost every car on the road can be ticketed for some reason or another.

I don't have a front plate on my car, which is illegal in my state, and I have had it off for about 7 months now, driven by countless numbers of cops, and none of them pulled me over.

Some of them just don't care.



I'll link you to the site where you can browse Texas' laws.

Here is the link... http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/statutes.html

Here's another interesting law site, that states the speed at which the law deems reckless (nothing to do with this topic, but...). By clicking on the name of the state you want laws for, you will be directed to that state's statutes.

http://www.mit.edu/~jfc/laws.html

anyone know where i can get the statutes for virginia, id like to know the decibel level and the cat or no-cat law

Go to the link I provided two posts up.

Taken from the link, after I clicked on Virginia, and did a search for noise...

46.2-1049. Exhaust system in good working order.

No person shall drive and no owner of a motor vehicle shall permit or allow the operation of any vehicle on a highway unless it is equipped with an exhaust system of a type installed as standard factory equipment, or comparable to that designed for use on the particular vehicle as standard factory equipment, in good working order and in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise. An exhaust system shall not be deemed to prevent excessive or unusual noise if it permits the escape of noise in excess of that permitted by the standard factory equipment exhaust system of private passenger motor vehicles or trucks of standard make.

The term "exhaust system," as used in this section, means all the parts of a motor vehicle through which the exhaust passes after leaving the engine block.

Chambered pipes are not an effective muffling device to prevent excessive or unusual noise.

(Code 1950, 46-305; 1952, c. 455; 1956, c. 651; 1958, c. 541, 46.1-301; 1960, c. 120; 1970, c. 266; 1972, c. 66; 1989, c. 727.)

ANOTHER:


46.2-1047. Muffler cutout, etc., illegal.

It shall be unlawful to sell or offer for sale any (i) muffler without interior baffle plates or other effective muffling device or (ii) gutted muffler, muffler cutout, or straight exhaust. It shall be unlawful for any person to operate on the highways in the Commonwealth a motor vehicle equipped with a gutted muffler, muffler cutout, or straight exhaust.

(Code 1950, 46-306; 1950, p. 54; 1958, c. 541, 46.1-302; 1964, c. 628; 1989, c. 727.)







Sec. 18-2. Creating loud, disturbing, etc., noise prohibited; violations and penalties.


(a) It shall be unlawful to create or assist in creating any unreasonably loud and disturbing noise in the City, and noise of such character, intensity and duration as to be detrimental to the life or health of any person or to unreasonably disturb the quiet, comfort or repose of any person is hereby prohibited.
(b) Any person who violates any provision of this section shall be deemed to be guilty of a Class 2 misdemeanor.
(c) Each day of violation of any provision of this section shall constitute a separate offense.
(d) The person operating or controlling a sound source shall be guilty of any violation caused by that source. If that cannot be determined, any owner, tenant or resident physically present on the property where the violation is occurring is rebuttably presumed to be guilty of the violation.
(Code 1985, 19-2; Ord. No. 90-254-238, 1, 7-23-90; Ord. No. 2000-402-2001-14, 1, 1-8-01)





Can't find any decible limits, but I'm positive that there are some. Long story short, the Kazuma in Virginia is illegal also.

I'll try and find a decible level for your state though.

thanks alot, yeah, i am trying to find the decibel law, not for kazuma, but for TSRM actually, i might just go ahead and drive to my parents house in mia,fl and get a fl license and registration, they have more leeway down there!!

I'm almost positive that across the country, the legal decible level for an exhaust is 95, but it may vary from county to county.

TSRM does have a muffler, doesn't it? It should be within the legal limits then.

i dont know, but i do know that its spec'd out at 93db

lol damn you guys breaking out all the stops to argue.

*grabs a chair*

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