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which shifter is shorter? B&M or TWM? its for GTS...thanks.

damn, sorry, thought it was a general discussion...sorry everyone

TWM is the shortest...

ya ^^

TWM, but B&M has shorter throws.

how?

Because a shifter being shorter doesn't really mean shorter throws, you have to change the fulcrom point of the lever to make them shorter.

This is why people with cut rods are stupid, because it doesn't do anything. You have to change the fulcrom in order to change the leverage and the length of the shifts.

Levers

A lever is a simple machine that magnifies force. Levers are comprised of a rigid bar (lever arm) a pivot point (fulcrum), a load force, and an effort force. The effort force creates a torque around the fulcrum. The magnitude of this torque is dependant on the magnitude of the force and its distance from the fulcrum. This torque must be balanced by the torque created by the load force. Changing he distance from the fulcrum to the load force changes the amount of force magnification.

physics 101

lol... physics
the reason im looking for the shortest is that i want it to look really really short dunno why... but do you think there is a big difference between TWM and B&M in the throw perfomance?

i have twm and i can tell you its 10 times better then stock, cant speak for b&m though...

true...

i didn't know B&M had the shorter throw...i like B&M, i need to get it.

i would have to recommend twm

Stock the GTS shifter is rough...how rough is it with the SS?

Here is TWM:

And here is the stock :

I'm still waiting for someone to buy a S/S, then chop off like three inches so that the shifter is almost level with the console.