Celica Forums General Discussion General 2005 lotus elise (w/toyota vvtl-i engine)

just got the new import tuner (w/a nice cover model) and it reminded me about the new lotus elise coming out. here are some specs:

Vehicle type: mid-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 2-passenger, 2-door roadster
Estimated base price: $39,000
Engine type: DOHC 16-valve inline-4, aluminum block and head, port fuel injection

Displacement: 110 cu in, 1796cc
Power (SAE net): 190 bhp @ 7800 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 133 lb-ft @ 6800 rpm
Transmission: 6-speed manual
Wheelbase: 90.6 in
Length/width/height: 149.0/67.7/44.0 in
Curb weight: 2000 lb

Manufacturer's Performance ratings:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.9 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 12.6 sec
Top speed (drag limited): 141 mph

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This was brought up quite a few times. I sat in one at the LA auto show. Definately a nice car.

so wait a lotus is made by Toyota?? or are they just using the Celica GTS engine?? cause cause wow thats just awsome of a ride

figured it was but there are always noobs who may not search old posts.

awesome ride..i like it

I don't think Lotus even makes engines. Every Lotus I've ever seen has an engine that was built by someone else.

But yeah... that is one sick ride.

I wish Celicas performed like that. Thats what the extra $10,000-$15,000 gets ya I guess! They are very cool IMO

yes i heard it too

Just give it a 500lb. weight reduction and it will.

too bad they're all sold out for 2005 already... i probably coulda got my dad to trade the MR-S for one of those.

Yes Lotus picked the VVTLI engine and tranny for the elise
WHICH MEANS MORE MODS FOR GTS OWNERS IN THE FUTURE (Rumor is Cams)!!!!
Lotus said they wanted a proven reliable ???? engine .
But lotus mods may be to expensive for most celly owners

well, the lotus also has a different Intake and dual exhaust system plus lotus' own ecu.

4.9 zero to sixty...shit

now does everyone realize why I gut my car lol if mine weighed 2000 lbs I'd be pushin 12's too

that thing is gonna be a monster can you imagine the stafford Turbo on that thing. 11's

yeah, unless you REALLY wanna be different you can instead get the sti, evo 8, rx8, fairlady, etc... and still have a fair amount of money for mods. heck, just keep the celi and go crazy with fi, full suspension and appearances

actually the vvtl-i engine is made by YAMAHA...sold to toyota for use in the celica gts and some matrixes and supposedly the new corolla

the new elise/exige is rated by many experts to be the best handling car of all time.

thats what crazy weight savings and a mid-engine setupd of perfect 50/50 weight distribution will do to you

i think people are forgetting that the lotus is rwd and it's not just about weight...but 600lbs. less would be nice either way...lol

the dual exhaust doesn't do anythign for Performance.

the lotus has more to the exhaust system than just the dual outlets. once it's out i'm sure we'll find out what they did

The way I understood it, Yamaha helped to DEVELOP the engine, but that it is made by Toyota. I may have misunderstood tho...

you are correct. it was a co-op r&d

STi and Evo could match the Elise in a striaght line, if you toss that saved money into mods. It'll still never touch it in handling... Lotus is crazy with their cars handling.

RX8 is slower than a Celica.

B-E-A-Utiful!

look i know lotus rediesigned the Intake manifold and did some ignition remapping.

its still a foru cylinder and a dual exhaust will not help in Performance.

regardless of what you do to the engine is is still a four cylinder and the laws of physics stil replies. teh dual exhaust is for looks.

Just when I thought that the VVTL-i couldn't inhabit a nicer body. I love it

i dont think its true duel exhaust anyways

whatever motor fits ina lotus you can do...last one ive seen was a type R motor i think (integra)

Man that is so damn nice, id LOVE to have that as my ride!!

nice car indeed~

Its defitinetaly nice, but if celicas had 600 pounds less we could be up there too

its in an msn article too if anyone wants to read up on it more.. for more info and pictures check out the article

http://autos.msn.com/advice/article.aspx?contentid=4022486&src=News


"The Elise is a hard-core driver's car as close to a race car as you can buy for the street but still a car you can drive and enjoy every day."


The U.S. version of the Lotus Elise is powered by a 190-horsepower version of the Toyota 2ZZ engine with a 6-speed transmission for proven powertrain reliability


Constructed using aluminum alloy extrusions and aerospace bonding techniques, the chassis weighs a mere 150 pounds.


Color choices range from standard Ardent Red and Saffron Yellow to "lifestyle colors" Krypton Green and Chrome Orange.

that's a fast elise...*cough*...celica...

<---wants one. lol I bet you can go a tenth or 2 faster than what they posted

what i have been told is the reason they use the gts engine is because of the emission problems they had with their engine in america..i think out of the states they use their own engine...
but im too lazy to google this...so i could be wrong, its what i was told by someone who said he loved elise's

i wants me one

Exactly, it's also in the Matrix XR-S.. but they might put it in the Corolla..??? Ew no way, not unless they add a new two door sporty model..bring back the AE86 momentum the car once had, except it will be FWD instead of RWD.

well your half right

the old elise used a rover engine the same people who made the land rover.not lotus

also the reason they went with the celica engine was for teh high rev nature.

they never put a powerful engine in it the old engine only had about 119 horsepower in it.

its a small car also, that is why its faster...

yea it's fast... that's great, the most notable thing about the car is how well it handles, period.

a semi affordable supercar

handling and speed - I like it