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#178579 May 13, 7:35pm
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Ok I am so pissed right now I have no Idea where to begin.
I had agreed to purchase Kris Johnsons (celly01) 17" Hyper Black 5zigen FN10R-c's.
I sent him the payment we agreed on ($700) by money order. This was over a month ago.

First the excuse was that his friend had his stock wheels and so he couldn't take the 5zigens off of his car. Then He got in a motorcycle accident and was in the hospital. Then, He said he use the money for hospital bills. Because of this he said he would start making payments to me w/interest to make up the $700 he owes me. I told him I didn't care about interest...I just wanted my money back.

At first he was a promt e-mailer. He would always get back to me within a timely manner. Now I can't get ahold of him. I have not heard from him in 6 days.

Luckily I went into this one as prepared as possible. I made photo copies of everything. And i do mean EVERYTHING. I sent the money order certified UPS. SO I have a signature that a member of his family signed for it. I have the proof that he cashed it. I also have e-mails that say that he has the money.

I am pissed. If I had someones money, and I was in his hospital situation (IF IT'S TRUE), I would definately do everything I could do pay it back and to keep in touch with that person. But I dunno. Maybe thats just me.

Any other Ideas? I gave him till Wed. of next week to have the first payment of $100 to my residence.

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why can't he just ship the rims now???does his friend still have it?? he is always on here, pm him or soething or you might try that already


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sorry about that bro. hope you could fix it soon frown

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Worse comes to worse, sue him. Take him to small claims. You didn't give him 700 to pay hospital bills so that was pretty nervy of him to use the money for that. And none of this "I will make payments back to you" You never made payments to him in the first place so he shouldn't do that either. Either get your $700 back or sue.

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If worse does come to worse I will end up sueing him. I thought that was pretty nervy of him taking my money to pay for his bills too... I want to trust him. But, damn. This is anoying.

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Ok, Called the secret service! I am not kidding either. It is on! grin

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LOL, they won't do shit about it bro, they got bigger worries thumbsdown

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Originally Posted by CeLlYgT04
LOL, they won't do shit about it bro, they got bigger worries thumbsdown

Actually, they refered me to a fraud division of the San Antonio Police Department. I am working with detective Stark right now. I will be pressing charges shortly. Kris Johnson messed with the wrong guy.

So you are right the Secret service does have better things to do. However, all agencies are really cracking down on internet fraud. I am just glad I will be getting this resolved!

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yea why can't he just send you the rims.. if he's still in the hospital he's not driving anywhere...

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yea dude, this guy in illinois just got sent to prison for 33 month, for ebay fraud, he was selling sumthign he never had. they're really cracking down on internet fraud latley

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Yeah, I sent everything I have to the detective. I am pressing criminal charges. He might have to do time...among other things. He should have never tried to rip me off. Bad Idea. I take this crap personal. So, I should know within the week what will happen. I juse want my money back... cry

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$700 is not $20...do whatever you can to get your money back dude.


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Holy shit...I've met Kris a couple of time at the meets here in S.A. I know he was gettin rid of his Celica and said he got a bike. I havent seen it yet, however. If you need his number I think a friend of mine got it at a meet. I can send you a PM tomorrow hopefully with it.


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Thanks that would be sweet! However, if it is the # that I have...then he disconnected his phone. thumbsdown angry angry

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eek whoa I can't believe all this. I also met Kris and he seemed like a good guy.

Sorry to hear all the problems your going through Rocketman, I hope you can get this issue resolved.

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Hello.

Sorry to here about your dealings with him. I had made an agreement to purchase those exact same wheels from him April 16 2004. I felt that his offering price of $500 (see below) was a little on the low side so I tried to get him to agree to a purchase contract(see below), after we had agreed on an exact price. The following day he responed saying that he was sorry but he couldn't sell his wheels at this time. I thought it seemed kind of shady after he had just agreed to sell them the day before, prior to me sending him a writen contract.

I hope you didn't get scammed- but i think you probably did.
Take legal action. Start with the Bank, Post Office, Police.

This is what celly01 said;
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"i am trying to sell these quick because i am getting a custom paint job on my bike and I have half the money already...if you really are serious and can get back to me within 2 days, i will let you have them for 500$ and you pay for shipping"
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Here is a copy of the contract I sent him:
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"Aaron xxxxxxx will pay $620.00USD in the form of a Money Order to Kris xxxxx, owner of the alias Celly01 on the website celicahobby.com, in exchange for;

4 - 17 5ziegen FN01R Hyper Black Wheels
4 - Pirelli tires in good condition
UPS ground shipping valued costing approximately $120.00USD.

Aaron xxxx will purchase a money order and send it to the seller within 5 days of acceptance of this contact.

Wheels and tires will be shipped using the agreed upon method, UPS ground shipping.

Wheels and tires must be shipped within 5 days of accepting the Money Order.

If the buyer has not received conformation of shipment within said 5 day period, stop payment will be placed on the money order. If the money order has been cashed by the seller prior to the end of the 5 day period and the wheels and tires are not shipped; the seller will return the entire amount, of $620.00USD plus an additional $15USD to cover the expense of buyers original money order, to the purchaser in the form of a certified check or money order.

In the event of a contract dispute, Alberta Canada law will apply.

Acceptance of this contract will be made by sending Aaron Bilkoski a private message stating the sellers name address and phone number. Upon receipt of acceptance by the buyer, both parties are legally bound by the terms of the contact.
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wow after eading all of this im speachless eek

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he doesnt post here anymore...

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Yep. He is an Ass. Totally ripped me off. Do you know what it feels like to loose $700!!!! I do. Feels like shit. thumbsdown


Let me tell you this though. I had better never see him walking down the street...

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^^ yeah

damn that sucks

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Not to sound mean or rude, but the money he is holding in his av. is probably yours.. eek laughsilly
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^that SHITS

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Originally Posted by MptGlw69
Not to sound mean or rude, but the money he is holding in his av. is probably yours.. eek laughsilly

No shit. At least I know what the fucker looks like. The cops say that unless they can prove intent that he will probably get away with it. I fucking hate this.

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^^^unfortunately thats the risk you take by buyin from random people...

Sorry to hear man...good luck frown

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Originally Posted by Rocketman
Do you know what it feels like to loose $700!!!! I do. Feels like shit. thumbsdown

Try losing $1500 in cash and $3256 in damage to your car now that feels like shit eek eek

But good luck to you thumbsup

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I JUST GOT AN AWESOME IDEA!!!

If I could get 700 people on this site to send me $1 each I will have broken even! Just think you could end my...endless sorrow...or someting like that. Or, if anyone lives in San Antonio TX you could go try and get my money from him. I will split it 50/50. That is $350 to the person that gets it. thumbsup

I just want him to pay...that son of a bitch.

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well, that's an interesting deal. If he still works at the same place then I could find him. Interesting proposition, I'll have to think about it wink

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Originally Posted by Rocketman
I JUST GOT AN AWESOME IDEA!!!

If I could get 700 people on this site to send me $1 each I will have broken even! Just think you could end my...endless sorrow...or someting like that. Or, if anyone lives in San Antonio TX you could go try and get my money from him. I will split it 50/50. That is $350 to the person that gets it. thumbsup

I just want him to pay...that son of a bitch.

sure, but send me $0.35 for a stam, plus the $0.35 stamp you'll have to send it with and you'll make $0.30 off each person...might want to reaise that # to 2,233 people rofl rofl

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Originally Posted by Speed4TheNeed
Originally Posted by Rocketman
I JUST GOT AN AWESOME IDEA!!!

If I could get 700 people on this site to send me $1 each I will have broken even! Just think you could end my...endless sorrow...or someting like that. Or, if anyone lives in San Antonio TX you could go try and get my money from him. I will split it 50/50. That is $350 to the person that gets it. thumbsup

I just want him to pay...that son of a bitch.

sure, but send me $0.35 for a stam, plus the $0.35 stamp you'll have to send it with and you'll make $0.30 off each person...might want to reaise that # to 2,233 people rofl rofl

Either way...I just wanna break even. GAR!

SHOW ME THE MONEY!

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Originally Posted by Subarashi
well, that's an interesting deal. If he still works at the same place then I could find him. Interesting proposition, I'll have to think about it wink

Yeah man, do it. I will honestly spit it 50/50. Plus I would be so happy I would jump really high! Like, into the air and stuff.
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Alright I'll see what I can do

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Originally Posted by Rocketman
Originally Posted by Speed4TheNeed
Originally Posted by Rocketman
I JUST GOT AN AWESOME IDEA!!!

If I could get 700 people on this site to send me $1 each I will have broken even! Just think you could end my...endless sorrow...or someting like that. Or, if anyone lives in San Antonio TX you could go try and get my money from him. I will split it 50/50. That is $350 to the person that gets it. thumbsup
Actually, if you used pay pal...HAHAHAHAH! I would make $0.97 each time! problem solved!
I just want him to pay...that son of a bitch.

sure, but send me $0.35 for a stam, plus the $0.35 stamp you'll have to send it with and you'll make $0.30 off each person...might want to reaise that # to 2,233 people rofl rofl

Either way...I just wanna break even. GAR!

SHOW ME THE MONEY!

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hey Subarashi, if you need help, you know I'm down. thumbsup


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KICK HIS ASS

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Originally Posted by 10celica10
KICK HIS ASS

Lol. This is about to get intense! Like old Chinese movies intense. Hell, even new Chinese movies! thumbsup

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LMAO. I saw Celly01 today. He was at a red light in his Celica with the 17s still on it. I was like 'oh shit its him!'. I couldnt get his attention or anything b/c i was goin the opposite way. I jus thought I'd post and say he still has those rims. thumbsdown


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Originally Posted by Deseck
LMAO. I saw Celly01 today. He was at a red light in his Celica with the 17s still on it. I was like 'oh shit its him!'. I couldnt get his attention or anything b/c i was goin the opposite way. I jus thought I'd post and say he still has those rims. thumbsdown

Oh that son of a bitch. I swear to God. I hope he gets hit by a car. A big car. Like a truck maybe. Or a cement truck. Yes. AND THEN THE CEMENT WILL FALL ONTO THE CAR AND HE WILL BE LIKE, "NOOOOOOO!".

Then victory will be mine! However, I still will not have the rims nor the money...DAMN!

If you do see him again...at least slap him. Real hard. thumbsup

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that last post reminds me of a south par episode. make him eat his parents. "ohhhhhh, your tears taste soooo goood!"

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Originally Posted by dennis
that last post reminds me of a south par episode. make him eat his parents. "ohhhhhh, your tears taste soooo goood!"

LOL rofl rofl rofl

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WOW, this is why i buy mods LOCAL, especially anything over 200 bucks.

good luck with the case bro, although it wasn't my 700 bucks I can imagine knowing how it would feel. ...And it does going to feel like shi*T!

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ha, that's messed up. I actually had agreed to buying these rims for 650 off of ebay from this fool a while back too. He kept ignoring me and luckily i didn't send him money because i wanted to use paypal and he wanted a Money order. Man, i hope you get your money back and this fool pays back big time.


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Originally Posted by RogerGTS
ha, that's messed up. I actually had agreed to buying these rims for 650 off of ebay from this fool a while back too. He kept ignoring me and luckily i didn't send him money because i wanted to use paypal and he wanted a Money order. Man, i hope you get your money back and this fool pays back big time.

Yep, he's a butt hole. I plan to go down to Texas for a business trip in the next few months here. I am going to confront him about it. His ass is as good as mine!!!!!! BwaHAHAHAHAHAAH

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BTW, if you sent him something through the United States mail service, he is guilty of mail fruad.

https://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/fraud/MailFraudComplaint.htm

"MAIL FRAUD - 18 U.S.C. 1341, makes it a Federal crime or offense for anyone to use the United States mails in carrying out a scheme to defraud.

A person can be found guilty of that offense only if all of the following facts are proved: First: That the person knowingly and willfully devised a scheme to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false pretenses, representations or promises; and Second: That the person used the United States Postal Service by mailing, or by causing to be mailed, some matter or thing for the purpose of executing the scheme to defraud. "

Carries a five year prison sentence, and a fine (I am not sure what the limit is, but you will for sure get your $700 back plus expenses)


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you still havent gotten your money back? go for it!!

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thumbsupKick his ass! I was frauded on ebay and it feels like SHIT!

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Worst thing to do is let the person get away with it... Especially when you have all of that proof that he ripped you off.

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Originally Posted by IceTeal
Worst thing to do is let the person get away with it... Especially when you have all of that proof that he ripped you off.

Oh, I know...however, the cops are being asses about it. They say that they "can't prove intention." ARGGHHHH. I mean...$700!!!! That is a lot of money. I'll tell you what what goes around comes around...

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kick his ass.

fucking bastard!

find his ass!!!

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Originally Posted by booyaolian
kick his ass.

fucking bastard!

find his ass!!!
Trust me...that would not be a problem. I would just have to find him. That is the only problem...actually i know his address...I would just have to fly to Texas...THAT IS THE ONLY REAL PROBLEM. ARGHHHHHH!!!!!

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