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Originally Posted by Easy_C
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personally the only dyno mentioned about the DC header was from an already modded GTS. if an Intake can get 8 peak whp from stock and an exhuast can get 5 peak whp from stock you just don't add the numbers and come up with 13 whp.

wellll...the TPR Intake dynoed at 7.5 whp and the exhaust at 10.4...and when i threw both on without letting the ecu adjust to anything, i got 15whp, im sure after the ecu adjusted i could get the other two smile

of course i was just using it as an example. but generally you don't just add numbers from differnt dynos together.

but damn chris...i can only imagine a TPR I/H/E gts plus power fc... eek

and for people worried about getting the TPR exhaust in cali. don't worry. as long as it projects below 95db it's good! that is the rule, plain and simple. thumbsup

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Originally Posted by oas
so is this better than the TRD exhaust?????

have you ever seen a TRD exhaust make 32whp at lift and 10 hp peak over stock???

but yea race header should be out soon. like i said before im aiming for 185-190whp with I/H/E...i decided not to go PFC, but i am doin greddy e-manage which does teh same thing. so with that i'd like to see 200-210 whp...and TPR already has a couple products underway to help you N/A guys hit 240 whp with no nos wink

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**cough** in theory **cough**

e-manage is NOT the same. but if you can hit that high I'll be the first to give you mad props thumbsup

my guess is 190's with the emanage smile but hey I wont complain if you get that cam project to work wink


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nothing but good stuff with tpr.

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Originally Posted by Easy_C
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so is this better than the TRD exhaust?????
and TPR already has a couple products underway to help you N/A guys hit 240 whp with no nos wink

i think i wet my pants.. eek rofl rice thumbsup

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Originally Posted by Easy_C
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so is this better than the TRD exhaust?????

have you ever seen a TRD exhaust make 32whp at lift and 10 hp peak over stock???

wtf

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Originally Posted by oas
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so is this better than the TRD exhaust?????

have you ever seen a TRD exhaust make 32whp at lift and 10 hp peak over stock???

wtf

he means YES...it does perform better than TRD rofl

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sorry guys but there was a miss understanding, my friend with the rsx does not have hondata 4 the ecu controler, i wont fuck with him if he had that, i said he had hondata IMG this means he has a Intake Manifold Gasket, all it does is keep air colder wen it goes in the engine, does not really work because his Intake manifold still gets hot, but yeah i know you guys told me all of this on the other forum, but i just wish i would of waited, im thinking about going all tpr now im thinkin about selling my Intake and header to get the tpr Intake and race header and the exhaust, i never really knew the injen Intake was that bad, should of looked it up more, damn it, so many mistakes i make, but so far tpr is going good, cant wait to see final products price and final pix, thanks tpr for making all this stuff for us thumbsup

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wave not a problem... just giving us celi owners hope again wink


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any word on the race header?

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that thing look so weak, but if it can produce power. kool

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Originally Posted by xbcelica
that thing look so weak, but if it can produce power. kool
WTF are you talking about, its weak wat do you know about anything, dont start being an ass, ur new here earn respect JACKASS!!!

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damn that was harsh rofl^^^^^^^^

does tpr have an offical website and where r they located?

good job on the products, espically 32whp at lift~!!!! eek

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I will wait for an independent dyno...I personally never trust these "Inside dynos". I just find it hard to belive that an exhaust with no huge difference in bends compared to the TUM or TSRM can yield that muck more HP...It makes no sense. I personally am calling BS. However, if it is true, and other dynos show the same... I give MAD props! thumbsup
I mean you will have discovered a new way to yield horsepower from our cars that hell...Trial couldn't do after 3 generations of there header and there exhaust...

I am sorry, I can't understand how an exhaust...with more bends than the trial exhaust... and still only an axel back...can yield more hp IN LIFT than the Kazuma.

Once again, when INDEPENDENT dynos come out I PRAY that I am wrong and that I look like an ass...

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ok check this out. TPR Dyno
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Now TSRM dyno..Look similar? ALMOST EXACT...
1870202909-TANABE Exhaust.JPG

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Now, if that doesn't fuck with your mind...look at the base torque curves for each dyno...they are THE EXACT SAME! EXACTLY! Now I dunno about you...but this is fucking with my mind...I have seen a TON of dynos...and never...NEVER. have there been two IDENTICAL torque curves... The HP levels are clearly different here and there...but for the most part very very similar... What is my point? I have no idea...I am really damn tired and now I will sleep... gnite. thumbsup

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^^^^^^ Oh yeah, I found that dyno on the Turbo magazine web-site showing the exhaust showdown for the celica. confused

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hmm freaky.

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I dont know how exactly you consider this an "Inside Job". I am a one man company and certainly dont have enough resources to purchase my own dyno. The Dyno place drove my car. all i did was swap parts. So i dont know how much more "independant " you can get . And you also have to consider muffler design for power since thats where any restriction is. Not trying to come on and down you or anything. i always expect skeptics (most people on this site are still skeptical about the Intake). But more dynoes from an actual customer are coming. even with a TRD comp on both GT and GTS

weak... rofl rofl rofl...yea ok

oh and yes they used the same base file to show on all the exhaust dynos. its common on dyno comparison runs. Nothing major.

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Originally Posted by Easy_C
I dont know how exactly you consider this an "Inside Job". I am a one man company and certainly dont have enough resources to purchase my own dyno. The Dyno place drove my car. all i did was swap parts. So i dont know how much more "independant " you can get . And you also have to consider muffler design for power since thats where any restriction is. Not trying to come on and down you or anything. i always expect skeptics (most people on this site are still skeptical about the Intake). But more dynoes from an actual customer are coming. even with a TRD comp on both GT and GTS

weak... rofl rofl rofl...yea ok

oh and yes they used the same base file to show on all the exhaust dynos. its common on dyno comparison runs. Nothing major.

So, first I want to say, I was wrong. There really is no need to be a sceptic because the TPR exhaust yields only .9 peak WHP more than say... a TSRM or TUM. It looks like it will be a great exhaust! I am excited to see more things about it!

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Originally Posted by Easy_C
I dont know how exactly you consider this an "Inside Job". I am a one man company and certainly dont have enough resources to purchase my own dyno. The Dyno place drove my car. all i did was swap parts. So i dont know how much more "independant " you can get . And you also have to consider muffler design for power since thats where any restriction is. Not trying to come on and down you or anything. i always expect skeptics (most people on this site are still skeptical about the Intake). But more dynoes from an actual customer are coming. even with a TRD comp on both GT and GTS

weak... rofl rofl rofl...yea ok

oh and yes they used the same base file to show on all the exhaust dynos. its common on dyno comparison runs. Nothing major.

It could me "major" if the car you dyno'd yielded more stock than the base file car. I mean some of the GTS population only dynos at 159 stock...others have dyno'd at up to 168 in stock form...it can make a BIG difference... If you want accurate runs with accurate dyno results than you should use the same car on the same day with the same conditions. Especially because even in 5 minutes on a the same day the temp could rise...humidity levels could change...there are SO many variables when one dynos a car that NO two dynos will be the same...IMO. smile

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Originally Posted by Rocketman
Originally Posted by Easy_C
I dont know how exactly you consider this an "Inside Job". I am a one man company and certainly dont have enough resources to purchase my own dyno. The Dyno place drove my car. all i did was swap parts. So i dont know how much more "independant " you can get . And you also have to consider muffler design for power since thats where any restriction is. Not trying to come on and down you or anything. i always expect skeptics (most people on this site are still skeptical about the Intake). But more dynoes from an actual customer are coming. even with a TRD comp on both GT and GTS

weak... rofl rofl rofl...yea ok

oh and yes they used the same base file to show on all the exhaust dynos. its common on dyno comparison runs. Nothing major.

It could me "major" if the car you dyno'd yielded more stock than the base file car. I mean some of the GTS population only dynos at 159 stock...others have dyno'd at up to 168 in stock form...it can make a BIG difference... If you want accurate runs with accurate dyno results than you should use the same car on the same day with the same conditions. Especially because even in 5 minutes on a the same day te temp could rise...humidity levels could change...there are SO many veriables when one dynos a car that NO two dynos will be the same...IMO. smile

Oh, and this could go either way! I don't want to come accross like an ass... grinI am just saying that if you use the same car on the same day with "like" conditions (as close as you can get) It might prove that your exhaust yields even more HP than you originally thought! thumbsup

On a side note I am disapointed that I bought the TUM instead of this exhaust...I didn't know it was comming out. I would rather support the "little guy" ANY DAY than support some major corporation over seas... At least it's not china. thumbsup

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All dynos were done same day, same car and everything thumbsup. Ive never seen any other exhaust make more than 8 peak wtf then again maybe i havent looked hard enough smile...thanks for clarification


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so let me get this straight, the TPR exhaust is .9 whp more than the TSRM exhaust?


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i dont see how an exhaust will give you an additional 32 wheel hp over stock in lift. I would see how a F/I setup will, but not just a single exhaust.


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Originally Posted by Tru_gts
i dont see how an exhaust will give you an additional 32 wheel hp over stock in lift. I would see how a F/I setup will, but not just a single exhaust.

edit: nevermind this is gonna get confusing

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Originally Posted by Rocketman
On a side note I am disapointed that I bought the TUM instead of this exhaust...
y dont you just seel it and get the TPR exhaust thats wat im doing thumbsup

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Where can i get one this list to buy?


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Originally Posted by Tru_gts
so let me get this straight, the TPR exhaust is .9 whp more than the TSRM exhaust?

As far as I can tell...look at the two dynos on page 3...I still recomend the TPR exhaust if you don't already have one.

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theres a group buy goin on in New Celica.org. pm me if you want in. once i get all 10 payments (we have 7 people on so far) then the exhausts ship out.


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im alright, i got my exhaust a long time ago and its getting a lot of positive feedbak but yeah, the TPR exhaust is great for Performance thumbsup.


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yeah if i wasn't in college i would have a little more money. Right now i am trying to put aside some cash for the TPR Intake. I am happy with my TRD exhaust for now but i wouldn't mind tpr

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If I needed an Intake I'd give it a shot cause it's cheap and because it can be turned into a Short ram Intake for he rainy days.


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Originally Posted by Tru_gts
so let me get this straight, the TPR exhaust is .9 whp more than the TSRM exhaust?
Peak numbers are basically only good for advertising (like how Injen makes the most peak hp, but it's a horrible CAI for power overall). If you check out the power before peak on the TPR exhaust dyno, you'll see TPR slaughtered even TRD by much more than 1hp. Check out the dyno here and you can see how much more power the TPR exhaust gains over TRD when both are equipped with a CAI:


https://celicahobby.com/ubbthreads/thread.f1_1870215243_0_collapsed_5_365_1.html#1870215243

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is it coming GT dyno, becuase els i buy trd

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Originally Posted by oas
is it coming GT dyno, becuase els i buy trd
Only if an owner of the TPR exhaust does it. TPR doesn't have the funds to do dynos of every car. frown Not even TRD has done dynos of any of their Celica exhausts. Considering how much TPR beat TRD by on the GTS, there's a good chance the gains will be just as good on a GT, since TRD's GT exhaust is pretty much the same as their GTS exhaust.

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someone buy it and dyno it on your gt and let me know

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i do not know if this qustion has already been asked and answered, but:

how is the tpr exhaust manufactured and using what techniques?

thanks.

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2.5" Mandrel bent polished T304 Stainless steel tubing.


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any new info on this...where's the pic of the actual product?

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the first shipment should be goin out anytime now, im sure there will be plenty of pics available smile


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come on 32 WHP with a single exhaust? sounds REAL suspicious to me. kinda like the 20 dollar chips that add 20 hp on ebay. sounds to good to be true

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Originally Posted by 2kVeilsideGTS
come on 32 WHP with a single exhaust? sounds REAL suspicious to me. kinda like the 20 dollar chips that add 20 hp on ebay. sounds to good to be true

It is at one point in the RPM band...for instance the TUM makes 31 at the same point. Not that big of a difference'

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hey easy_c you might wanna think of building a simple website for your TPR products... with it i guarantee you will boost up your sales thumbsup

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Originally Posted by Rocketman
Originally Posted by 2kVeilsideGTS
come on 32 WHP with a single exhaust? sounds REAL suspicious to me. kinda like the 20 dollar chips that add 20 hp on ebay. sounds to good to be true

It is at one point in the RPM band...for instance the TUM makes 31 at the same point. Not that big of a difference'

Ive never seen a TUM hold 9-10 whp over stock thru-out lift...then again, ive only seen 4 or 5 TUM dynos lol...


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Originally Posted by Pnoy
hey easy_c you might wanna think of building a simple website for your TPR products... with it i guarantee you will boost up your sales thumbsup
I'm handling that, don't worry. smile It's just about done, but EasyC is having problems connecting to the site to upload it. frown You can see a preview of the site's top banner's style in our new sigs (updating soon).

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ok...i am interested in TPR products, the numbers are very impresive.i just have one question..and please dont take this the wrong way, i think it is a legitimate question. how are you getting so much more power than all these other companys that have tons of money backing their research... confused


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Hehe, they may have tons of money backing their research, but that doesn't mean they're researching the right things. wink Take the TPR CAI for example. Every single other Intake on the market has caused bogging and CELs on a good percentage of owners' cars, GT and GTS, auto and manual. The companies never even thought about researching the Celica's stock airbox to see what makes it tick (most likely because other cars' MAFS are mounted in a part of the Intake system that isn't removed for a CAI/SRI install). I did, and came up with a mod to stop all the bogging and CELs (MAFS fins which corrected the Air/Fuel ratios), then TPR built a CAI and SRI around that idea. The correct A/F ratios from the MAFS fins are part of the increase in power over other Intakes (especially low end), and the design of the piping is the other part (longest straight portion of any CAI, accelerates air the fastest).

For the exhaust, we searched high and low for the the best muffler based on previous testing. Then we made a piping design that, like the CAI's piping, accelerates air, reducing the restriction effect of the muffler by allowing air to pass through it much quicker than normal. That in turn allowed the engine to make more power, while maintaining a street legal noise level. Most aftermarket exhaust companies are limited to using only mufflers they developed for their company (they rarely make unique mufflers tuned for an individual car), but TPR's only limit was the amount of mufflers out there. smile

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