|
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 18
Member 2000 Toyota Celica
|
|
Member
2000 Toyota Celica
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 18 |
Hey, I'm from Sydney, Australia. Here we have two versions of the celica both with VVTL-i engines, with no mechanical differences, only cosmetic. What are the engine differences between the GT and GTS? 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,014 Likes: 1
Specialist
|
|
Specialist
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,014 Likes: 1 |
GT 140HP VVT-i
GTS 180HP VVTL-i
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,014 Likes: 1
Specialist
|
|
Specialist
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,014 Likes: 1 |
& Welcome! 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 18
Member 2000 Toyota Celica
|
|
Member
2000 Toyota Celica
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 18 |
Thanks dude
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 3,037
Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica
|
|
Specialist
2000 Toyota Celica
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 3,037 |
yup just wat they said 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,670
Specialist 2003 Toyota Celica
|
|
Specialist
2003 Toyota Celica
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,670 |
that's only U.S. Spec though...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 32
Member
|
|
Member
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 32 |
So how much wheel horsepower does a typical celica put down? I was thinking with a 15% drivetrain loss, a gts should put down around 155.
Last edited by xprohx; Sep 9, 2004 2:05pm.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 353
Member 2001 Toyota Celica GT
|
|
Member
2001 Toyota Celica GT
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 353 |
Don't forget the T-Sport 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,070
Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica
|
|
Specialist
2000 Toyota Celica
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,070 |
So how much wheel horsepower does a typical celica put down? I was thinking with a 15% drivetrain loss, a gts should put down around 155. They actually put down low 160's. The engine in the GTS (and maybe the GT?) is definately a little too much under-rated. I wouldn't be suprised if it put out around 210 to the crank.
Aqua Teen Hunger Force...number one in the hood, G
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,137
C'mon & hit me! 2000 Toyota Celica GTS
|
|
C'mon & hit me!
2000 Toyota Celica GTS
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,137 |
So how much wheel horsepower does a typical celica put down? I was thinking with a 15% drivetrain loss, a gts should put down around 155. They actually put down low 160's. The engine in the GTS (and maybe the GT?) is definately a little too much under-rated. I wouldn't be suprised if it put out around 210 to the crank. some people dyno'd at 165whp...210 is a little generous though... 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,070
Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica
|
|
Specialist
2000 Toyota Celica
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,070 |
So how much wheel horsepower does a typical celica put down? I was thinking with a 15% drivetrain loss, a gts should put down around 155. They actually put down low 160's. The engine in the GTS (and maybe the GT?) is definately a little too much under-rated. I wouldn't be suprised if it put out around 210 to the crank. some people dyno'd at 165whp...210 is a little generous though... Lucky can put down 180's without F/I, so I dunno.
Aqua Teen Hunger Force...number one in the hood, G
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,137
C'mon & hit me! 2000 Toyota Celica GTS
|
|
C'mon & hit me!
2000 Toyota Celica GTS
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,137 |
So how much wheel horsepower does a typical celica put down? I was thinking with a 15% drivetrain loss, a gts should put down around 155. They actually put down low 160's. The engine in the GTS (and maybe the GT?) is definately a little too much under-rated. I wouldn't be suprised if it put out around 210 to the crank. some people dyno'd at 165whp...210 is a little generous though... Lucky can put down 180's without F/I, so I dunno. oh...yeah 210 to the crank with mods is doable then.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,070
Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica
|
|
Specialist
2000 Toyota Celica
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,070 |
[quote=xprohx]So how much wheel horsepower does a typical celica put down? I was thinking with a 15% drivetrain loss, a gts should put down around 155. They actually put down low 160's. The engine in the GTS (and maybe the GT?) is definately a little too much under-rated. I wouldn't be suprised if it put out around 210 to the crank. some people dyno'd at 165whp...210 is a little generous though... Lucky can put down 180's without F/I, so I dunno. oh...yeah 210 to the crank with mods is doable then. [/quote]No mod (not including forced induction and internals) produces more horsepower at the crank, but rather frees it up. So with bolt-ons like exhaust and CAI, you are not producing more power at the crank, but rather allowing the engine to use more of its maximum power by letting it breathe/operate easier.
Aqua Teen Hunger Force...number one in the hood, G
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,137
C'mon & hit me! 2000 Toyota Celica GTS
|
|
C'mon & hit me!
2000 Toyota Celica GTS
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,137 |
[quote=slidr][quote=xprohx]So how much wheel horsepower does a typical celica put down? I was thinking with a 15% drivetrain loss, a gts should put down around 155. They actually put down low 160's. The engine in the GTS (and maybe the GT?) is definately a little too much under-rated. I wouldn't be suprised if it put out around 210 to the crank. some people dyno'd at 165whp...210 is a little generous though... Lucky can put down 180's without F/I, so I dunno. oh...yeah 210 to the crank with mods is doable then. [/quote]No mod (not including forced induction and internals) produces more horsepower at the crank, but rather frees it up. So with bolt-ons like exhaust and CAI, you are not producing more power at the crank, but rather allowing the engine to use more of its maximum power by letting it breathe/operate easier. [/quote] an exhaust and a CAI is a modification. our cars don't come stock with them. and yeah, i know what they do. 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 32
Member
|
|
Member
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 32 |
So can anyone point me to some dyno graphs? If it really does put down 165 to the wheels in stock form, that would be 195 to the flywheel, like an itr would.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,137
C'mon & hit me! 2000 Toyota Celica GTS
|
|
C'mon & hit me!
2000 Toyota Celica GTS
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,137 |
it's generally 155-165 whp. of course all cars are diffrent and all dyno conditions are diffrent as well. if you want to look at dynos new celica has a few of them
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 32
Member
|
|
Member
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 32 |
it's generally 155-165 whp. of course all cars are diffrent and all dyno conditions are diffrent as well. if you want to look at dynos new celica has a few of them Yep, they do all read differently. And how did lucky get 184 to the wheels?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,137
C'mon & hit me! 2000 Toyota Celica GTS
|
|
C'mon & hit me!
2000 Toyota Celica GTS
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,137 |
i think he got 184 from an aem Intake, unbolted exhaust with a powerfc...pm him to make sure his screen name is lucky317
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,014 Likes: 1
Specialist
|
|
Specialist
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,014 Likes: 1 |
He must be lucky? GTS & GT - Difference is an "S" ? 
|
|
|
|
Joined: August 2004
Thank you.: me, myself, and I...! Random: a bowl of rice, fried chicken, and a glass of water!
|
|
Show All Member Profiles
|
|
- Part Reviews
- OEM Parts Catalog
- Body Kits, Ground Effects
- Hoods, Hood Scoops
- Spoilers, Wings, Splitters
- Side Mirrors
- Head/Tail Lights & Bulbs
- Interior Appearance
- Interior Performance
- Engine Dress-up Kits
- Exhaust Systems
- Engine Performance
- Bars, Braces, Coilovers
- Shocks, Springs
- Wheels, Tires, Brakes
- Audio, Video, Security
|
|
|
|
