Celica Forums General Discussion General Would you trade in a 2003 GT for a 2005 GTS?

i was trying to sell my car because i thought my mom was hinting it but then this weekend, she asked me if i wanted to trade my 03 gt for the 05 gts sometime next year. i'm not sure what to do. i just got a $2,231.66 scholarship check so i can put that towards mods or i can save that and help with getting the gts. i don't want to go turbo so i think it would be better having a gts. i heard from a friend who had a 2001 gts that the six-speed is a weak tranny. is that true? i'm planning on doing some autocrossing and getting a really good suspension setup. are people with gts able to stay in lift while doing autocrossing or is it useless? also is there any changes, even small ones like the all amber change from 02 to 03, from the 03 to the 05?

short version-
-slightly modded 03 gt (5-speed) with money for more mods
or totally stock 05 gts (6-speed).
-don't want turbo.

thanks.

i would go for the GTS. once you go lift, you never go back... haha unless you turbo ur gt. lol

05 no doubt.

Start fresh with the 05

05

GTS for sure, You can get it how you want it. (Color, accessories, etc.)

GTS def...i want a GTS damnit... go for it dude!

gts... lift is addicting, but umm gts' lift is useless in autocross in most cases

05 aint no jive.

GTS if you can afford it. Just realize how much money it's going to cost to go from your car to a 05 GTS.

It won't do you much good in autox, but it's going to be FAR more fun for street driving.

thanks for the comments. everyone said to go gts hahah

rev- yea, we're going to be paying about $32k for the gts since i'll probably will be getting only $15k from the trade-in.

i live for lift go with the GTS

There is something very serious to be said for never selling or trading an upside-down car... but that's a decision that you'll have to make.

Basically, you're paying all of that money for 40 HP once you're past 6k RPM, aluminum pedals, disc brakes, a 6th gear, and nicer wheels. I don't know if that's worth it to me.

If it is to you, go for it.

what does it mean when you say "an upside-down car"?

i'm thinking i should trade it in now (@ 12k miles) than keep the gt and regret it. if i try to trade in the gt later on, the trade in will be worth less.

upside down is refering to the amount your car is worth for the dealer (trade-in) subtracted from the actual debt that you incurred for the purchase (depreciation & interest).

if your remaining debt is so detrimental to the overall new purchase price (gts price plus carried debt) than it is quite a dilemma like revmonster said.

don't trade in and you keep the savings for extra mods for your gt. trade in and you get a better platform. but is that platform's difference worth the newly incurred cost?

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The other thing I'm looking at...

You've already modded your car a bit. You have the GTS pedals, cai, and full suspension. If you do sell, I'd strongly advise moving all that onto your new car. It's not worth a cent to the dealer's trade value.

I don' know... your car looks nice. A GTS isn't THAT much faster stock than a GT, and you could do the wise thing and save all that money for an even nicer car once your GT is paid for.

fo sho my bro...hahaha..get the 05

If you're serious about autox, keep the GT. It's got a much wider power band than the GTS, and should be able to beat it with equal drivers.

aww how come you dont want a turbo? you get a nice a nice whinning sound at high rpms and a nice TSSSSSHHHH from a BOV oh + more power

Sounds like your parents are paying for it anyway. Get an sti

Stick with the GT and put your money into mods. I would rather have a GT with mods than a stock GTS. That my opinion, but I hate having stock cars so i am bias.

Yep the gt rules over gts in auto-x

...houston we have "lift" off...gts and mod the hell out of it for auto-x

gts all the way you gonna love 6 gears

The GTS is a better platform with +40hp, so with $2000 in mods on a GT won't make 40 more hp. But as earlier stated the debt incurred with the trade-in and new car would be higher, but its not like your parents are going to give you that money to spend on mods anyway.
Since your not going with turbo, I assume you want to go N/A, so the better choice would be the GTS, because the vvtl-i would really help, that's why manufacturers made different variations of variable valve/lift to help N/A cars make the power to compete with turbocharge cars.

id say gts

with that scholarship money i would keep it and save up for Turbo than getting a GTS IMO

hows about this crazy thought... keep ur GT and use ur scholarship money for school sounds nuts but its crazy enough to work

^^ yeah i mean you lose so much money doing the trade. thats just throwing thousands away right there. i dunno if its reallly worth it. might as well save it till your car dies and you can buy a brand new one years from now.

nah i'm not going to be going much but i am planning to go because i've met a couple people into it and i'm kind of getting into it.


i don't like that whinning sound, just an intake sounds better imo. the bov sound is coo though


my parents and my aunt. i want to stick with the celica.

did someone answer my question about whether or not the 6 gears is a weak trans system yet?


yea i won't get the money that would go into the gts for mods anyway and it'll be hard to get the gt as fast as the gts in a straight line.


i don't want turbo and the scholarship check was a surprise. i already have enough saved up for school because i was saving up for rims.

what if ..

i talked to my sister online yesterday and she said she'll be happy to take the gt. so i'm going to talk to my mom if she'll be ok with getting me the gts and let my sister have the gt instead of losing money on the trade in. my sister will need a car soon anyway, she has her license for over a year now. so i think my problem is solved and we'll have two celicas in the family, i hope ..

05 GTS

Get the 2005 CELICA!...I'm getting mines to!

Now there's an idea.
i almost had a chance to do the same but my damn sis wouldnt take the celi

celica > sti

i talked to my mom and i'm going to keep the gt for now. when she thinks my sister is ready to drive stick shift, i'll get my gts

celica > sti?

140 HP, 5 speed transmission, front disc brakes, 15 inch wheels, 2 door hatchback > 300 HP, 6 speed gearbox, 4 wheel brembo brakes, BBS wheels, 4 door, already tuned and stiff suspension, horizontally opposed turbo boxer engine?

...? im sure im forgetting more qualities about the WRX, but is it just me or does this inequality just not sound right?

that's just my opinion. i would rather drive a celica than the sti.

^^^ hell yea me too.

gts ofcourse but if you want to go performance, get a used 2000 one other wise you will have low rev, and wont be able to get the power fc.

GTS wish i cudd have lift

If you sell or trade or whatever.. i call Dibs on your Carbon Fiber hood if you part out. I called it!!! LOL

$350 pick up? i have brand new sparco hood pins too.

Oh Hell Ya trade it for an '05 with the new tsunami KiT!!!!

^are you for real???