Celica Forums General Discussion Engine and Performance turbo

seriously i am goin down to the shop here and im goin to order my turbo kit 2maro...options...xs or stafford...tell me the differents...i know that xs has bad costumer service and they are fixing the turbo manifold but whats the difference in power and y is everybody loving the stafford kit? xs comes with everything you need so its just a bolt on kit...does stafford comes with everything so i can get it shipped to my house and bolt it on just like that? i know ill need tuning...but will i need a power fc for the stafford kit...does the stafford kit gonna come with the fuel rail? what comes in the xs kit that stafford doesnt have? will i need fuel injectors? fuel pump? need answer celica crew..need the kit on my december...car show coming up and i want to be the first celica turbo on maui!!!

No offense, but we have a search function, and the differences have been posted numerous times...

sorry bro. someone on maui already has a turbo celica. its the red celica at sound pros. i think you should check out krytonix motorsports, they can help you with your turbo questions.

yeah, use the search, or go to staffordfabrication.com, i think thats the site

www.c2power.com [c2power.com] if you want quality

Err! . IF you got with either of those (XS, SF) your stupid! No offence! Have you read any posts at new.celica.org? SF has a waiting LIST A MILE LONG! and XS will blow your engine!

Please use the search button! Its your freind! Here is what comes with each kit


XS Kit (http://www.xs-engineering.com/)

Get ready to boost your Toyota Celica GTS to 241 wheel horsepower with XS Engineering's GTS Turbocharger System. Designed by XS Engineering's research and development team, comes the first truly "complete" turbocharger system for the new body Celica GTS. This complete system consists of a ball bearing IHI VF23 Turbocharger, a huge 24"x11"x3" XS Engineering Power IC, durable cast iron manifold, and APEXi Twin chamber blow off valve. If that wasn't enough, the XS Engineering Celica turbocharger system also comes with full stand alone fuel management, consisting of 504cc injectors, 255lph fuel pump, and an XS Engineering tuned APEXi Power FC. With such a complete turbocharger system, there is no question that XS Engineering can help you truly, "Feel feel the power" of your Celica GTS. Only $4995.00

Baseline:
Max Power = 167.2hp @ 8200 RPM
Max Torque = 122.0ft lbs. @ 7000 RPM
w/ XS Engineering turbocharger system
Max Power = 250.0hp @ 8200 RPM
Max Tourque = 183.4ft. lbs. @ 6600 RPM




SF Kit (http://www.staffordfabrication.com/)

Designed for both stock and modified engines. The turbo kit can provide you with a mild 4 psi for daily driving on your stock motor, or provide you with an insane 18 psi for highly modified race cars.

The turbo kit includes:

4-1 tubular equal length manifold for maximum cylinder scavaging and horsepower

Garrett T3 ar.60 Turbo to allow for horsepower numbers exceeding 350 whp (turbo upgrades available)

2.5 inch downpipe for maximum flow (hooks to stock exhaust location)

SF PFM Fuel System to provide the much needed fuel for the extra boost

SF Billet Aluminum Fuel Rail Center feed to eliminate pressure spikes and pulses

SF Intercooler: a 19"x9"x3" core with TIG welded aluminum tanks

Mandrel Bent Intercooler Piping powdercoated to any of the 250+ colors we have.

TCC Works Type I Blow Off Valve just for the intimidation factor

Steel Braided Oil feed lines and fittings to privide your turbo with much needed lubrication

3/4" drain line and pan fitting SF's "no weld" pan fitting bolts directly to the pan

At Le Toy motorsports in Bakersfield Ca, the Celica GTS dynod at 240 whp and 170 ft/lbs on 8 psi.





EIP Kit (http://www.eiptuning.com/)(Edited Due To Post) Thanks for the update : )


C2Gas Kit (www.c2power.com [c2power.com]) <-- Homepage
(http://www.c2power.com/?menu=3&submenu=1&id=8)
The C2 POWER Toyota Celica (2zzge) turbo kit stage1 is a simple bolt on kit, with least modification on your car possible. It is a complete kit, you get everything in the pack that is neccesery to get your turbo kit on the road.

These kits are set to a power rate, witch does not cause excessive stress for the stock engine. You can expect about 50% power gain, with excellent mid range response thanks to the Garrett GT28RS duall ball bearing turbo, also knows as the Disco Potato We measured 250-260hp, it can produce boost from 2000revs, and full boost (6-8 psi) is available well below 3000revs. This kit is our choice for an excellent daily driver. You can raise the boost with an aftermarket boost controller, but it is not recomended by C2power.
If you looking for even more power mail to sales@c2power.com for details on the Stage2 solution!

In the kit you get:

Garrett GT28RS duall ball bearing turbo preset at 0.4 bar
medium sized intercooler
greddy emanage, harness, with preloaded map
polished sainless steel piping and tubular manifold
hoses
water and oil lines to turbo and out
gaskets
oil line flange
Sard racing R2D2 Blow off valve and fitting (BOV)
Apexi power intake and adapter




Hope this helps and by the way... Updates on the Kits (makers)

SF- Currently being sued on new.celica.org Read more there
XS- Currently likes to blow engines! Read more ^^ same site
EIP - Not aviable
(Edited Due To Post) Thanks for the update : )
C2- Best Kit out There! GREAT KIT! Great Repsonce/s and time

Hope you rethink your decision! Hope this helps!



Am I missing anything?

i dont EIP tuning sells the kits and ships them. i believe they only do inshop installs, etc. or just plain out doesnt sell them anymore. i emailed them a long time ago and i just remember something about having to be installed at their shop(in maryland)

last i heard the xs turbo was on hold. and...its a little late in the game if you want your turbo by december if you go sf or xs. c2power.com might be your best bet from the sounds of it. good luck! (ps. im from maui. do you know nelson armitage?)

pps. if c2 is the option you go with, will you let me know how much the shipping is?

Never shipped to Maui, but usually shipping to USA or Canada is 280$ by EMS air in 3-5days!

Oh, and i can ship the C2power 1ZZ kits whitin a week from stock!

See C2Gas owes Ecelica Thank GOD!

You know, you could call XS or Stafford and ask them all of your questions instead of asking us. They will be able to give you better answers than an internet forum with an extremely small group of people who actually have the kits. And just because the XS kit is considered "bolt-on" it by no means means that you will actually be able to complete said bolting-on by your self.

And you would be stupid to only listen to 1 person who is a customer of C2 for your advice. No offense, but you (GT211) are incredibly biased. Instead of pointing out the negatives of all the kits except for the one you like (somehow you know that it's a GREAT KIT and the best one available, even without actually owning it), be more open to everything that's available. C2 is a small group of people in Europe making turbo kits for the Celica. XS Engineering is a giant tuner shop in Southern California with thousands of customers and tons of products and services.

Use the telephone, it's there for a reason.

No offence either that if you would have done some research on the topci you would know where im coming from so I'll help you out..

Sf... Well first.. SF has lawsuits coming his way from not giving his kits out and they are so porrly designed.. If you read at NC - Org you'd read that he hasn't answered his phone... SO don't bother calling. And he hasn't answred hios emails! I don't know why you would EVERY wanna consider him as an option right now! Maybe when he gets his act together which he is trying to but isn't goin to well...! So SF is out... Two options left!

XS... Well if you ahve read about them and there turbo for the celica you'd realize that there kit likes to blow engines... Another thing is have you ever seen them even on this site? Do they even care? They have so many kits why would they owrry about the celica... I dunno about you but I want a company who CARES! Wow.. Deep! LoLz. Two down.. One more company!

C2Gas... Well first I'd like to correct you that C2Gas from what i've read has TWO companies... WOW TWO and is doing very well... I dunno but that doesnt sound like a SMALL group of people is Europe.. Another thing... Try Emialin them! You'llg et a response within Hr's I don't think XS or SF will do that.. If SF even answers back! I think I can Speech for Immo And all the other C2Gas Turbo family that the kit is great and is almost flawless... ALSO C2 is actually involved in Ecelica and NC - Org. WOW!

GO ahead and try calling Sf... -Won't get answer
Xs... - Think you'll really care when they have about 10+ Kits for Other cars???

I know I mean sound really really baised but I like to look at facts and the fact that I like customer service and I like a company at acutally cares I go with C2Gas...

Soo maybe next time maybe do alittle research and Thatn MAYBE you might see what Im talkin about


My Two Cents!


O yeah LOOK!


A Sponser?... Wow I don't see Sf or XS here?

c2 does respond VERY quickly- i got two email replies with hours with answers

^^^ Glad TO HEAR!

GT2111 - I like the cut of your jib - thanks for the vaulable info

i meant "within hours" lol

looks like c2 is the way to go...

Yes it is