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https://celicahobby.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=1191This is why they are censored...
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Hey everyone check this out. I called extreme dimensions.com and I talked to this one guy. I asked him about the situation about the people who bout the wide body kit and got the R2 back, buddy club sides, etc. He had no comment on that. I asked if the company had just given them the wrong order. of course, he tried to sway around that as well. So, I wanted to inquire about the "Poison..." wide body kit that they side was for 900 bucks.
Earlier today, I called the guy in the forum about the APR body kit. He says that he is the one that help design the car. I believe him because he told me that the kit that extreme dimension is selling comes with the R2 back, buddy club side, etc. and the flars that they sell must be molded. He said that the real APR kit for 3,700 is all bolted on. So, I called extreme dimensions and that was when I kept getting the "Bill Clinton" kind of answers. Then, I asked the guy about the Poison kit that they sell. He said, "Yeah, our kit comes with the front bumper, side skirts, rear bumper, and flares." So, I said the flares are bolted on right? and he said no, they must be molded and extensive body work is needed. So, I said ok. That was when I asked him, "so, when I buy this is there any warranty. Like if they sell me the wrong one or something, what do you guys do for me. or if it is not what I expected." He just said that that's how it is when you agree with the "terms and conditions" of the company. If that were to happend "you have to pay the 24 percent restocking fee and shipping no matter what." So, he is still going around the bush about the wide body kit. I said, so when I get this wide body kit from you I will get the right one from the picture right? He said, "well, yeah, you will get the flares, front bumper, rear bumper, and sides." He still didn't answer my question.
By this time, he was yelling at me and critizing my intelligence because I kept asking the same question. It was when I asked the real hard, real big, real difficult question to get around by. I got this knowledge from the guy that I called from the forum, the guy that said he designed it. He said that APR has a patent on it and is in the process of resolving extreme dimensions' business practice. So, I said to the guy at extrem dimensioins, "APR has a patent on this product, so how is it that your company is able to sell this product to me?"
Then, it was when he could fib no more. He said, we'll that is why we give you the kit, but a different "style." I said, so it doesn't look exactly like the picture? Note, this one of the same questiion that I keep asking him. He said, "of course not. That is why we call our kit, the Poison kit because of the patent. and because of the patent, we cannot sell the same looking kit. so, that is why we sell it in another style." I said to him what does he mean by a different style. he said that that is why we sell in a different style. He was getting angry. I said, what do you mean. He said, our kits looks a little different, so that is why we may miss a few curves and vents here and there. I said, oh. so, it isn't the same as the picture, RIGHT? He said, yes. I said, so basically you sell a different kind of kit, but you give us that picture and give us that idea that it will be like that. He said, no, that picture is to give you an idea of what we say when it includes a front, rear, side, and fender flares.
So, I understand now that it is all a play of words and pictures to trick you guys. All that they are doing is somewhat in the legal limit, but basically they are deceiving you. Basically, they are giving you miscellaneous kit parts to fullfill what they say clearly on the net, "front bumper, rear bumper, side skirts and fender flares." They had never said anything about APR. So, they are very tricky.
In my opinion, don't buy from them ever because the guy said that it is not only for the Poison kit. For example, I got him to admit that the blitz kit that they sell don't really come with the side vents on the front bumper because of patent and legal issues. He said other kits could be not of the right size and a little diffeerent style because of legal issues (patent) from the people who really make it.
Further, in my opinion, do I think that they are scamming you, whether it be on purpose or not, then yes I think that. Do I think that they are only under the url
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extreme] dimensions.com?? no, not really. They can be under different url's and its the same location and company. Just wanted to tell you guys. For those who really read all this, thanks for listening. For now, Just call me "C-Note."
-concerned consumer
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Last edited by isaac; Aug 9, 2003 11:38pm.