Celica Forums General Discussion Exterior ordered greddy exhaust...changing mind now!

ok today i went to the shop and gave them the part number of the TRD exhaust that everyone here gave me. Now he calls toyota and tells me that it is just a muffler. a muffler for $599? hmmm...anyways.. then he says you could order the one for GTS and gut the flange and weld it on the other way from a local muffler shop... im all ok well i know people who installed a TRD exhaust on their GT...so he calls some more people and says oh TRD has discontinued making exhausts...im all wth!! well i only have 1 more week to get all this done because school starts so i go ahead and order a Greddy Evo for like $570...now i had doubt but i went ahead and gave $100 deposit...i'm thinking of just calling tomorrow and telling him to order the TRD exhaust instead...cuz some people tell me TRD only makes it for GTS and not GT... and some people tell me they have it for both...and he says that if it's just the muffler they will charge me the restocking fee which is like $200!! ahh!! what should i do help please?!! oh yeah here is the part number i have:00602-17500-005. is that the right one? i have a 2000 GT automatic 4 speed.. so yeh all you peeps who have the TRD exhaust on a GT please help me quick!!! this shop is really starting to piss me off...

Go to a different shop or order on the internet. He's BS'ing you. And I don't think you would like the Greddy..it's super quiet and really heavy.

https://celicahobby.com/catalog/specials.php

...Currently have the TRD exhaust installed on my GT for several years now - its awesome, never a simple problem. Took a friend and less than an hour to replace the factory stock system for the TRD system

i should do that...but i really don't wanna deal with the internet if somethign does turn out wrong...and i dont think i can get my deposit back...the least hell do is probably put it onto the trd..ahh i am not gona sleep tnoite

Here's the correct number for the exhaust, which can fit a GT.. TRD Exhaust [trdusa.com].

1. Factory
MSRP: $219.60
27.5 pounds
90 mm tip
75 db at idle
76 db at 3000 rpm
161.0 hp peak
119.6 lb-ft peak

2. 5Zigen Fireball
MSRP: $N/A
26.5 pounds
85 mm tip
79 db at idle
85 db at 3000 rpm
163.0 hp peak
120.4 lb-ft peak

3. A'PEXI N1
MSRP: $560
23.5 pounds
90 mm tip
77 db at idle
88 db at 3000 rpm
164.0 hp peak
120.8 lb-ft peak

4. Blitz Nur Spec
MSRP: $530
21 pounds
95 mm tip
82 db at idle
98 db at 3000 rpm
162.4 hp peak
119.9 lb-ft peak

5. GReddy Evolution
MSRP: $599
35.5 pounds
115 mm tip
82 db at idle
83 db at 3000 rpm
166.3 hp peak
122.0 lb-ft peak

6. Tanabe Racing Medallion
MSRP: $660
29 pounds
100 mm tip
83 db at idle
93 db at 3000 rpm
166.5 hp peak
122.6 lb-ft peak

7. Rod Millen
MSRP: $550
28 pounds
95 mm tip
75 db at idle
88 db at 3000 rpm
166.4 hp peak
122.5 lb-ft peak

8. TRD
MSRP: $648
25 pounds
100 mm tip
75 db at idle
88 db at 3000 rpm
166.7 hp peak
123.5 lb-ft peak

9. Veilside Teardrop Titanium
MSRP: $690
8 pounds
115 mm tip
82 db at idle
90 db at 3000 rpm
165.3 hp peak
122.6 lb-ft peak

10. HKS Hi-Power
MSRP: $710
28 pounds
95 mm tip
79 db at idle
90 db at 3000 rpm
165.7 hp peak
121.7 lb-ft peak

Summary:

Peak Power (highest to lowest in hp):
166.7 - TRD
166.5 - Tanabe
166.4 - Rod Millen
166.3 - GReddy
165.7 - HKS
165.3 - Veilside
164.0 - A'Pexi
163.0 - 5Zigen
162.4 - Blitz
161.0 - Factory

Peak Torque (Highest to lowest in lb-ft):
123.5 - TRD
122.6 - Tanabe/ Veilside
122.5 - Rod Millen
122.0 - GReddy
121.7 - HKS
120.8 - A'Pexi
120.4 - 5Zigen
119.9 - Blitz
119.6 - Factory

Price (highest to lowest in dollars):
710 - HKS
690 - Veilside
660 - Tanabe
648 - TRD
599 - GReddy
560 - A'Pexi
550 - Rod Millen
530 - Blitz
220 - Factory
N/A - 5Zigen

Weight (Lightest to Heaviest in lbs):
8 - Veilside
21 - Blitz
23.5 - A'Pexi
25 - TRD
26.5 - 5Zigen
27.5 - Factory
28 - Rod Millen/ HKS
29 - Tanabe
35.5 - GReddy

Noise (Most quiet to Loudest in dB at idle):
75 - Factory/ TRD/ Rod Millen
77 - A'Pexi
79 - 5Zigen/ HKS
82 - Veilside/ GReddy/ Blitz
83 - Tanabe

Noise (Most quiet to Loudest in dB at 3000 RPM):
76 - Factory
79 - 5Zigen
83 - GReddy
88 - A'Pexi/ Rod Millen/ TRD
90 - Veilside/ HKS
93 - Tanabe
98 - Blitz

Keep in mind that although the numbers may differ from individual to individual, the test were done together by Turbo, so the ranking should not be that different (except price). As you can see from the little tables, TRD is probably still the best overall performer. Veilside is pretty good, except that it fall short a bit on the peak horsepower (again, can't just look at peak power, and I didn't compare the entire dyno graphs) and it's physically daunting. GReddy has previously posted on nc.org about it having a high quality exhaust and from the data gathered, it's not quite true. Even tho it's pretty darn close to the highest peak powers and peak torques, the Evolution is by far the heaviest, which more than likely offsets whatever power advantage it may have. Blitz makes very little power above factory, probably even negligible; its saving grace are sound (from what ppl have said), price (lowest next to factory), and weight (second lightest). Tanabe consistently ranks well as does Rod Millen (probably b/c of its close ties to TRD). TRD and Rod Millen also makes the biggest jump in noise at 13 dB between idle and 3000 rpm; 5Zigen doesn't change in that range.

ok i clicked on the link and it says there arnet any parts available! ahh whats going on?

Just go to the online catalog and put in the info needed. It will bring you to it.

you must be some really skinny kid ... if the difference between 28 lbs and 34 lbs is going to sway your descision on exactly what you want... I say just toss on some tennies, shorts and leave the doc martins at home - oh and don't bring your whole CD collection with you when you "race" (or just simply remove your stock radio/cd box before hittin the track in your $18k hatchback) - there are your 5 to 10 lbs right there

BTW - I like NOT drawing the attention of every cop car in the general city limits when I leave the danse clubs past midnight on a schoolnight

ok i got to it but it's only for the GTS, i have a GT. plus its illegal lol. omg what am i gona do? how did all the people on this site get a TRD exhaust for the celi? maybe you all have GTS or something...help

Contact Steve at Carson Toyota. That's where I got mine. I have a GT.


-Steve Ganz
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-gonzo4u@earthlink.net

-1-800-908-6968

No, I could really care less about the weight, but some people try to save as much as possible. They like take out their back seats, carpeting, spare tire, which I think is pretty .

Go to the sport muffler section. That's the TRD exhaust.

ok weird...i either go to catback exhaust or sport muffler...ok now my question is that is the sport muffler an exhaust? lol omg these websites are so confusing!! i dont want to end up ordering a stupid muffler for $500!!!

MptGlw69, I think I just made a new best friend
Thanks - its all good!

I one who installs what he wants and could care less what everyone else thinks - but then again, this is the whole Import Tuner philosophy according to LJ Garcia

http://www.streettuners.com/featured_tuner/lj_garcia/ljgarcia.html

Well, the Kazuma is about the only exhaust that is an actual cat-back so the TRD exhaust is listed under the sport muffler section since it isn't a cat-back.

TRD Exhaust System for GT... $425
TRD Exhaust System for GTS... $475

Extended for GT with bodykit

http://www.wctoyotasport.com/Parts/00602-17500-007.htm

Standard for GT without bodykit

http://www.wctoyotasport.com/Parts/00602-17500-005.htm

TRD Exhaust system...

lol yeya!!!! thanks so much you guys... i thot it wasn't a full exhaust because it only has 2 pieces...great!! thanks for the pics!!!! i am gona call him up tomorrow and tell him to order the TRD one instead...muahhaha thanks again everyone!!

Glad to help.

got directly to Toyota... you'll get a better price and it will be at your door quicker.

if you go to a general parts store for toyota parts, the shop will markup this price for their "troubles" of having to order it for you

Some items you need to buy from a reseller or speedshop... but other items, such as ALL TRD parts, can be purchased directly from toyota and shipped anyware for you

BTW - TRD Exhaust is a full catback system... look at the photos I posted above

its not just the pipe - its the whole can

isaac what about trial exahust ??????

i have no experience with the trial exhaust system

i love this site lol i feel like crying i was waiting to hear those words isaac! lol omg i am gona yell at the shop guy tomorrow. nut case!!! grrr...i am so happy i am finally getting my TRD EXHAUST!

Oh..I remember a long time ago on NC.org someone said that the TRD wasn't a cat-back but an axle back, which is what I thought all of the Celica's exhausts were except the Kazuma? Guess I was mis-informed.

an "axle back" ...And all this time I thought the Exhaust system has something to do with the Catalytic Converter system (behind the Cat system)... but I guess I was wrong, the Exhaust system is all part of the Suspension/Axle system

Umm..the cat is part of the exhaust.

Exhaust is anything that is unused, coming from the engine. The cat is located AFTER the engine - so yes, the CAT is part of the Exhaust system.

This is why it is illegal to disable/remove the cat from your car - because the cat helps to capture and filter out the particles that create smog.

This also explains why Europe and Japan version get larger gains - their exhaust regulations are not as strict as they are here in USA... and thus, their cat is basically "dumbed-down" or not even in the flow of the engine "waste"/smog particles

How Catalytic Converters Work...
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/catalytic-converter.htm/printable

How Mufflers Work...
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/muffler.htm/printable