Celica Forums General Discussion Engine and Performance turbo with no DBW?

let me get this straight... you need new engine management with a turbo kit?... and Power FC doesnt work with 03s and up so is there no way to turbo an 03 and up or am i just completely lost... help me out

You can turbo the 03 and up, you just need to run a stand alone management instead of a piggyback. The 03's use a drive by wire that isnt compatible with a power FC.

is it just the gts or all 03 and up celica?

all of them im pretty sure

you are right and wrong.

2003-2005 celica GTS's got the dbw. the GT celicas did NOT.

there isnt a standalone ecu option available for the 2003-2005 models.

you CAN turbo a 2003-2005 celica gts with DBW. you wont make that much power cause your tuning options are severly limited. Stafford fabrications has I believe 3 turbo 2003 celica GTS's. the power is NOT worth the $$ though.

I read about that Stafford Fabrication kit. Seems very interesting. The Kit is $3300 and all the fueling is mechanical. Generates about 235whp @ 8psi, which is pretty good! The guy came up with a black box that will allow the ECU to run in open loop, so you can add an SAFC and tune it even better. So there is hope after all for '03&up guys like me! Has he released the kit yet?!

^^ nope. its still a custom kit that only a couple people have.

but we have some interesting leads that we're looking into right now. there may actually be a standalone unit that can control DBW on the 03's. I'll make a post when we find out more info.

the problem with it is that you can't get it tuned in the US. lol but the fact that it exists is the first step

I know that the powerfc would be a lot better since you can control something like when lift engages and some other important things but when you say not worth it, what do you mean? I wouldnt think it would be that huge of a jump to say it is not worth it with e-Manage.