|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 706
Sideways 2003 Toyota Celica GTS
|
Sideways
2003 Toyota Celica GTS
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 706 |
Sorry for the noob question but is there any way to purposly make a Celica backfire. Isnt there some way to release the petals at a certain RPM to cause a backfire? I know you can in an RX-7 so I wanted to know if it can be done in other cars.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 264
Member 1990 Ford Ranger
|
Member
1990 Ford Ranger
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 264 |
Why would you want to? Just curious
In parkour, no one is afraid. One is just...apprehensive.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 983
Senior Member
|
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 983 |
Wow, such an uneducated ricer question coming from someone who thought he knew what he was talking about earlier: If you knew anything about driving you would know its not a heel-to-toe, its a Manji shift. Just because you went on a few canyon carves and watched Initial D you think your the shit. AND, a heel-to-toe can be done by braking first. Learn more before you reply Apparently your the one that needs learning, backfire can occur in any car, but the cars gotta be running under some high boost and rich. Backfire is just a way to keep the turbo spooled while not on the throttle. It isn't something that just naturally occurs. Especially in a weak ass little engine like the Celica's. It occurs in highly tuned rally and race cars for a good reason, only thing it's going to do for your Celica is charr up your rear bumper and make you look like a idiot.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 321
Member 2002 Toyota Celica GT
|
Member
2002 Toyota Celica GT
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 321 |
i dont think he meant flames out the exhaust, but actually make the car backfire, as in the make the loud pop noise.
sooo many haters on here, just wanna call people ricers.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 983
Senior Member
|
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 983 |
^^ The loud pop noise is a missfire, there's a difference. Missfiring is usually caused because one of you injectors is bad or the timing is way off for some reason. Now why the hell would he want to do that? Im not a hater, people need to understand the purpose behind things and how they work before they decide they want to do it to their car. I'm just telling it like it is.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 706
Sideways 2003 Toyota Celica GTS
|
Sideways
2003 Toyota Celica GTS
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 706 |
Damn, whats you problem BReakinDrifts? And for somone who wants to looks smart you should try and answer the question. I asked how it is done, not what it is. But I doubt you even read it, you too busy trying to look smart and make up for your low self esteem by calling people ricers.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 983
Senior Member
|
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 983 |
Damn, whats you problem BReakinDrifts? And for somone who wants to looks smart you should try and answer the question. I asked how it is done, not what it is. But I doubt you even read it, you too busy trying to look smart and make up for your low self esteem by calling people ricers. I don't have a problem with people who are trying to learn new things, everyone has been there including me, but when you make an ass of yourself by trying to act like you know what you are talking about then you deserved to look like an idiot in front of everyone. Google it for specifics and to explain it in deatail, there are different ways to make it happen, usually theres just an extra spark plug wired in the exhaust system that fires when extra boost needs to escape the car without getting turbo lag when you get back on the throttle. The ignition timing can also be retarded,which causes large turbine driving pressures within the exhaust manifold. This in turn creates good strong boost even though the throttle is closed, but when you open the throttle and Ignition timing returns to normal the turbine is allready spinning hard and making boost. The reason Im explaining what it is, is because it helps to know what the point of doing something to your car is. Yeah and just because you claim to know what you are talking about when you clearly don't know shit, and I just happen to point it out doesn't mean I have low self esteem.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,342
dikitzaps 1974 Toyota Celica
|
dikitzaps
1974 Toyota Celica
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,342 |
In general, backfiring on deceleration (as opposed to acceleration) is generally caused by a lean condition. What happens is that the mixture leans out enough to where is fails to ignite consistently. This, in turn allows some un-burnt fuel to get into the exhaust pipes. Then when the engine does fire, these un-burnt gasses are ignited in the exhaust pipe, causing the backfire.
my car backfires at low rpms when i dont have the throttle on...
any car can backfire... not everything is "race and fireballs" BReakinDrifTs.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 983
Senior Member
|
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 983 |
^^ Yeah but theres a difference between missfire caused when your car isnt combusting thorughly and the backfire you see on WRC (which is what he was talking about.)
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 706
Sideways 2003 Toyota Celica GTS
|
Sideways
2003 Toyota Celica GTS
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 706 |
...when you make an ass of yourself by trying to act like you know what you are talking about then you deserved to look like an idiot in front of everyone.
...just because you claim to know what you are talking about when you clearly don't know shit... When the hell did I say I know what I'm talking about? I asked a question, I diddent say "I know what I'm talking about"
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 797
Senior Member 2003 Toyota Celica GT
|
Senior Member
2003 Toyota Celica GT
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 797 |
Okay then, what is the correct term when you hear a pop but it's not from bad injectors, and it's from not enough back pressure in your exhaust? Cause I have the poping sound, and it's been like that ever since I removed the stock resonator.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 706
Sideways 2003 Toyota Celica GTS
|
Sideways
2003 Toyota Celica GTS
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 706 |
Thanks for the help anyone may have provided though
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 983
Senior Member
|
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 983 |
...when you make an ass of yourself by trying to act like you know what you are talking about then you deserved to look like an idiot in front of everyone.
...just because you claim to know what you are talking about when you clearly don't know shit... When the hell did I say I know what I'm talking about? I asked a question, I diddent say "I know what I'm talking about" I was referring to your quote in my first post.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 3,744
CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica
|
CF Connoisseur
2004 Toyota Celica
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 3,744 |
my ridding lawnmower backfires after mowing and not letting it cool down before turning it off
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 706
Sideways 2003 Toyota Celica GTS
|
Sideways
2003 Toyota Celica GTS
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 706 |
I was referring to your quote in my first post. My knowledge of shifting has nothing to do with my knowledge of backfire. Lets just end this
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 983
Senior Member
|
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 983 |
Well I believe that in order to be a good driver you have to understand how your vehicle works.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 10,110
05 WRB 2005 Subaru WRX STi
|
05 WRB
2005 Subaru WRX STi
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 10,110 |
backfires really only occur with cars that run no cats and have a weird mixture for the fuel.
SUBARU TECNICA INTERNATIONAL
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 873
seabass 2000 Toyota Celica GTS
|
seabass
2000 Toyota Celica GTS
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 873 |
run really rich or really lean will backfire
with out resonater and with my tshm i would backfire now adn then my bike is running lean and will pop under deceleration and the celica with no exhaust backfired like whoa
i jsut think 90% of the people on this fourm are a bunch of little fucknig kids
hey thats a 20 minute phone call "if i have seen farther it is by standing on the shoulders of giants" derek: do you know that non dairy cream is flamable Jennie: ...derek..what did you do
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 3,744
CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica
|
CF Connoisseur
2004 Toyota Celica
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 3,744 |
tru but there are allot of kids that know allot more then adults here look at billy, he knows a crapload, but then again he is almost 18 so say goodby to your childhod bill
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,342
dikitzaps 1974 Toyota Celica
|
dikitzaps
1974 Toyota Celica
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,342 |
i jsut think 90% of the people on this fourm are a bunch of little fucknig kids there's some truth to that... half of them dont even have their licenses.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 321
Member 2002 Toyota Celica GT
|
Member
2002 Toyota Celica GT
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 321 |
ya'll are all hilarious... which are ya talkin about though? backfire or misfire?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 752
Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica GT
|
Senior Member
2002 Toyota Celica GT
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 752 |
Wow, such an uneducated ricer question coming from someone who thought he knew what he was talking about earlier: If you knew anything about driving you would know its not a heel-to-toe, its a Manji shift. Just because you went on a few canyon carves and watched Initial D you think your the shit. AND, a heel-to-toe can be done by braking first. Learn more before you reply Apparently your the one that needs learning, backfire can occur in any car, but the cars gotta be running under some high boost and rich. Backfire is just a way to keep the turbo spooled while not on the throttle. It isn't something that just naturally occurs. Especially in a weak ass little engine like the Celica's. It occurs in highly tuned rally and race cars for a good reason, only thing it's going to do for your Celica is charr up your rear bumper and make you look like a idiot. BreakinDrifts < KickScrew
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 419
Senior Member 2003 Toyota Celica GT
|
Senior Member
2003 Toyota Celica GT
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 419 |
guys, why all the fighting, we're here to share what we know, and take pride in the fact that we own Celica's
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,374 Likes: 1
Specialist 2002 Toyota Celica
|
Specialist
2002 Toyota Celica
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,374 Likes: 1 |
^^ actually only some on this site own Celicas...
I get my kicks on EC.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,353
Specialist 2004 Toyota Celica GT
|
Specialist
2004 Toyota Celica GT
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,353 |
^^ actually only some on this site own Celicas... i would want to know how many some people say they have one but don't even have one picture
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 10,110
05 WRB 2005 Subaru WRX STi
|
05 WRB
2005 Subaru WRX STi
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 10,110 |
tru but there are allot of kids that know allot more then adults here look at billy, he knows a crapload, but then again he is almost 18 so say goodby to your childhod bill lol thanks next week
SUBARU TECNICA INTERNATIONAL
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 203
Member 05 Mitsubishi EVO VIII
|
Member
05 Mitsubishi EVO VIII
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 203 |
Mine's done it ever since I removed the resonator, and got an exhaust. I think it only does it at low rpms tho.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 3,744
CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica
|
CF Connoisseur
2004 Toyota Celica
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 3,744 |
that may not be backfire as muc as prssure buildup in ur exhaust? but i really dont know waht i'm talking aobut
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 706
Sideways 2003 Toyota Celica GTS
|
Sideways
2003 Toyota Celica GTS
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 706 |
BreakinDrifts < KickScrew You know that means KickScrew is better dont you. Its the same as saying KickScrew > BreakinDrifts.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,286
ECelica Staff 2001 Toyota Celica GTS
|
ECelica Staff
2001 Toyota Celica GTS
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,286 |
backfire, by no means is an art
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 706
Sideways 2003 Toyota Celica GTS
|
Sideways
2003 Toyota Celica GTS
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 706 |
backfire, by no means is an art I had to make an apealing title to luer in posters.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 260
El Guapo 1997 Nissan 240SX
|
El Guapo
1997 Nissan 240SX
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 260 |
okay you and breakin need to kiss and make up god I have never met a nismo entusiast like breakindrifts so high and mighty. anyway, my car is WAY (18:1 at full throttle) rich and it backfires ALL the time (especially in low RPM's) maybe you just need to adjust your A/F ratio. Oh and BTW a manji shift IS heel Toe just in a different order but basically the same thing.
Touge Knights - Canyon Driving Team!
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,286
ECelica Staff 2001 Toyota Celica GTS
|
ECelica Staff
2001 Toyota Celica GTS
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,286 |
18:1 would be an extremely lean mixture not an extremely rich mixture. 18:1 means 18 parts air and 1 part fuel, if I understand a/f mixtures correctly. okay you and breakin need to kiss and make up god I have never met a nismo entusiast like breakindrifts so high and mighty. anyway, my car is WAY (18:1 at full throttle) rich and it backfires ALL the time (especially in low RPM's) maybe you just need to adjust your A/F ratio. Oh and BTW a manji shift IS heel Toe just in a different order but basically the same thing.
Last edited by Steven; Feb 1, 2005 3:12pm.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 10,110
05 WRB 2005 Subaru WRX STi
|
05 WRB
2005 Subaru WRX STi
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 10,110 |
my wrx also backfired when i downshifted and let off the gas
Last edited by VSGTS14; Feb 1, 2005 3:16pm.
SUBARU TECNICA INTERNATIONAL
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,612
2low2slow 2002 Toyota Celica GT
|
2low2slow
2002 Toyota Celica GT
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,612 |
go in any srt-4 they come stock muffler less and it will backfire like crazy, anything running rich and a free flowing exhaust will cause it
A boats a boat, but the mystery box could be anything....Even a boat!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 983
Senior Member
|
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 983 |
and my bike backfires when I deccelerate from 9k in 3rd gear
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 260
El Guapo 1997 Nissan 240SX
|
El Guapo
1997 Nissan 240SX
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 260 |
[quote=Steven]18:1 would be an extremely lean mixture not an extremely rich mixture. 18:1 means 18 parts air and 1 part fuel, if I understand a/f mixtures correctly.
yeah I always get those two mixed up. any way yeah what he said/\/\/\/\
Touge Knights - Canyon Driving Team!
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,342
dikitzaps 1974 Toyota Celica
|
dikitzaps
1974 Toyota Celica
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,342 |
your af ratio isnt 1:18 either dude stoich is about 12:1
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 753
Senior Member
|
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 753 |
mine backfires A LLLOOOOTTT...especially when i have my a/c on. Sometimes it sounds like a gun shot and actually echo's hahaha my gf gets embarassed when it backfires a lot and loud...
|
|
|
- Part Reviews
- OEM Parts Catalog
- Body Kits, Ground Effects
- Hoods, Hood Scoops
- Spoilers, Wings, Splitters
- Side Mirrors
- Head/Tail Lights & Bulbs
- Interior Appearance
- Interior Performance
- Engine Dress-up Kits
- Exhaust Systems
- Engine Performance
- Bars, Braces, Coilovers
- Shocks, Springs
- Wheels, Tires, Brakes
- Audio, Video, Security
|
|
|
|