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...short shifter question? #399772 Feb 14, 7:59am Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 895 California celicajonz Senior Member 2004 Toyota Celica celicajonz Senior Member 2004 Toyota Celica Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 895 California ...for those who have em...which one performs better...b&m or twm short shifter, or are they bout the same???? Originally posted by A_Bathing_Ape: I hit, what else, oh plus dome.

Re:...short shifter question? celicajonz #399773 Feb 14, 8:25am Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL differences are: b&m = taller, and i think easier throws twm = shorter, i hear some peopel misshift but i ams ure if you knwo waht ur doing it wont matter. Both are much shorter then stock but twm is a ton smaller then stock. so i think its waht you want. i believe prerformance is about the same Then again i am commonly wrong so hopefully someone else knows.

Re:...short shifter question? hombredelassrtas #399774 Feb 14, 8:33am Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 278 Bellevue NE GTSGhostRida Member 2003 Toyota Celica GT GTSGhostRida Member 2003 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 278 Bellevue NE dont know about twm but the B&M is a pretty good shifter...i have it know and its a pretty good mod...i couldnt handle a super low shifter like the twm is supose to give, the b&m is a good size IMO

Re:...short shifter question? GTSGhostRida #399775 Feb 14, 8:57am Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 227 Ireland Marlyman Member 1999 Toyota Celica GTS JDM Marlyman Member 1999 Toyota Celica GTS JDM Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 227 Ireland dont know about b&m. i just installed twm shifter. its tight as hell and a little bit squeky at the moment . i rekon that will come out of it. i never miss a shift by the way

Re:...short shifter question? Marlyman #399776 Feb 14, 9:12am Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 895 California celicajonz Senior Member 2004 Toyota Celica celicajonz Senior Member 2004 Toyota Celica Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 895 California Originally Posted by Marlyman dont know about b&m. i just installed twm shifter. its tight as hell and a little bit squeky at the moment . i rekon that will come out of it. i never miss a shift by the way ...coo cause i mine should b here on wed. hey is it tight like sweet or tight like carful shifts???... Originally posted by A_Bathing_Ape: I hit, what else, oh plus dome.

Re:...short shifter question? celicajonz #399777 Feb 14, 11:51am Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,303 Chicago, Illinois My Sixth Gear Specialist 2003 Toyota Celica My Sixth Gear Specialist 2003 Toyota Celica Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,303 Chicago, Illinois make sure to grease up the ball joints If you want peace... Prepare for War

Re:...short shifter question? My Sixth Gear #399778 Feb 14, 12:50pm Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,694 Tampa, Florida Polykarb Metal Storm 2040 2000 Toyota Celica Polykarb Metal Storm 2040 2000 Toyota Celica Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,694 Tampa, Florida i have B&M and it pwns. Tight feel and accurate throws into the gate, a good item to have.

Re:...short shifter question? Polykarb #399779 Feb 14, 1:06pm Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 160 LC, New Mexico spectraGTS Member 2001 Toyota Celica spectraGTS Member 2001 Toyota Celica Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 160 LC, New Mexico Anyone put a fidanza in their celi? Or am I the only one? I put it in about two weeks ago. It was really stiff at first, but after a 1823 mile road trip, its pretty smooth now. I'm gonna check it this weekend and re-grease the ball joints on it. Shorter throws, and I stick my shifts every time. So far, I like it. Its cheaper too. ~$60 + shipping.

Re:...short shifter question? spectraGTS #399780 Feb 14, 3:27pm Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL i have no idea what ur talking about. post more info and pics

Re:...short shifter question? hombredelassrtas #399781 Feb 14, 3:27pm Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 895 California celicajonz Senior Member 2004 Toyota Celica celicajonz Senior Member 2004 Toyota Celica Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 895 California ...yeah i was kinda lost too when i read this...thought i was the only 1 Originally posted by A_Bathing_Ape: I hit, what else, oh plus dome.

Re:...short shifter question? celicajonz #399782 Feb 14, 3:39pm Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 160 LC, New Mexico spectraGTS Member 2001 Toyota Celica spectraGTS Member 2001 Toyota Celica Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 160 LC, New Mexico Fidanza makes a short shifter as well. I'll post pix when I can. I'll try to find a link as well.

Re:...short shifter question? spectraGTS #399783 Feb 14, 3:41pm Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 160 LC, New Mexico spectraGTS Member 2001 Toyota Celica spectraGTS Member 2001 Toyota Celica Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 160 LC, New Mexico Heres a link to buy one. http://www.ptuning.com/html/search-resul...mp;cmbYear=2001 [ptuning.com]

Re:...short shifter question? spectraGTS #399784 Feb 14, 3:42pm Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 895 California celicajonz Senior Member 2004 Toyota Celica celicajonz Senior Member 2004 Toyota Celica Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 895 California ...that coo...hope my twm works out well Originally posted by A_Bathing_Ape: I hit, what else, oh plus dome.

Re:...short shifter question? celicajonz #399785 Feb 14, 7:09pm Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL did it come with everyhting you need. the pin, brushings ect?? or jsut the rod itself?

Re:...short shifter question? hombredelassrtas #399786 Feb 14, 9:22pm Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 139 greenville, sc barefoott4 Member 2000 Toyota Celica barefoott4 Member 2000 Toyota Celica Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 139 greenville, sc Don't forget the TRD shifter. I love mine, it's plenty short if you don't want to sacrifice your easy slide-into-gear stock feel. The throws are super short, but it feels like stock when sliding into gear.

Re:...short shifter question? barefoott4 #399787 Feb 14, 9:26pm Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,233 El Paso, TX EuRoBoYGT black & blue 4 you 2000 Toyota Celica GT EuRoBoYGT black & blue 4 you 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,233 El Paso, TX ^^^^^^ yeah i love my trd ss feels good the shifts feel real smooth it does feel like stock but with shorter gears i've been changing but you'll never see me now now i'm blaming you for everything

Re:...short shifter question? EuRoBoYGT #399788 Feb 14, 9:43pm Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,037 Alexandria, VA Clos Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica Clos Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,037 Alexandria, VA here let my break it down B&M = shorter than stock, shortest throw TRD = shorter than stock, stock feel but shorter throw TWM = shortest, stiff and some say its hard like shit to get to reverse. imo i would go for ether B&M or TRD if you want shorter shift, but if you want looks go for TWM

Re:...short shifter question? Clos #399789 Feb 14, 10:52pm Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,660 Houston, TX Grand-Touring-Dan ECelica Staff 2001 Toyota Celica Grand-Touring-Dan ECelica Staff 2001 Toyota Celica Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,660 Houston, TX B&M shortens shifts 38% TWM shortens 60% Both MAY increase misshifts, TWM will be more of a probability. I can see how TWM may be uncomfortable for daily driving. I have B&M on my daily driver. Only have good things to say. Plus...easy install. You do the math. Dan

Re:...short shifter question? Grand-Touring-Dan #399790 Feb 15, 1:28pm Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 895 California celicajonz Senior Member 2004 Toyota Celica celicajonz Senior Member 2004 Toyota Celica Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 895 California ...dam!!! i seconded guessing twm...ill c whats up when it arrives... ...n-e good sites to go on for the best price for B&M?.?.?.?... Originally posted by A_Bathing_Ape: I hit, what else, oh plus dome.

Re:...short shifter question? celicajonz #399791 Feb 15, 1:37pm Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 918 las vegas, nv celiwhite Senior Member 2000 Toyota Celica celiwhite Senior Member 2000 Toyota Celica Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 918 las vegas, nv i bought the speed source bushings so when i get my b&m it'll make the shifts even smoother

Re:...short shifter question? celiwhite #399792 Feb 16, 9:27am Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 160 LC, New Mexico spectraGTS Member 2001 Toyota Celica spectraGTS Member 2001 Toyota Celica Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 160 LC, New Mexico The fidanza short shifter came with everything I needed. Bushings, the shifter, and a knob (which I kept the origional leather one). I installed it in about 30 min. It didn't come with instructions, but it is pretty easy to figure out. I'll try to post pics when I can.

Re:...short shifter question? spectraGTS #399793 Feb 16, 10:24am Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 45 Ohio Mike2000gt Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Mike2000gt Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 45 Ohio I love my B&M!!!

Re:...short shifter question? Mike2000gt #399794 Feb 16, 12:43pm Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL awomse. i may lookinto that

Re:...short shifter question? hombredelassrtas #399795 Feb 16, 12:49pm Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 89 Madison WI L3M1315 Member 2000 Toyota Celica L3M1315 Member 2000 Toyota Celica Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 89 Madison WI Is there a price difference? I'm too lazy to look them up right now, and I have a meeting in a half hour in another building. I didn't realize the TWM was that much shorter

Re:...short shifter question? L3M1315 #399796 Feb 16, 12:52pm Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 282 CA AdamVIP Member AdamVIP Member Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 282 CA as i found out after i bought my b&m there is a replica of b&m. I believe its called a megan or something to that affect. Its around 50 bones as well.

Re:...short shifter question? AdamVIP #399797 Feb 16, 12:55pm Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL ther eis obx too. megan racing makes cheaper parts. liek i have a megan racing strut bar. ti was only 40 as compared to the 100 that thgey normally are.

Re:...short shifter question? hombredelassrtas #399798 Feb 16, 7:35pm Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 89 Madison WI L3M1315 Member 2000 Toyota Celica L3M1315 Member 2000 Toyota Celica Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 89 Madison WI $160 for the B&M $140 for the TWM Is there really a difference between the '02 and the '00 shifters or right- and left-hand drive cars? TWM's webpage only has '02+ and right-hand-drive for the '00-'02. I guess in that case I'd have to go with the B&M

Re:...short shifter question? L3M1315 #399799 Feb 17, 8:50am Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 998 Chicago, IL Pnoy Specialist 02 Toyota Celica Pnoy Specialist 02 Toyota Celica Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 998 Chicago, IL i think the 02 has wider shift gates...

Re:...short shifter question? Pnoy #399800 Feb 17, 10:21am Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 895 California celicajonz Senior Member 2004 Toyota Celica celicajonz Senior Member 2004 Toyota Celica Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 895 California ...can you use the trd s/s for the updated shift gates...ive heard you can use the trd s/s but just take out the rod itself and not using the trd housing which assemblied already...is that true Originally posted by A_Bathing_Ape: I hit, what else, oh plus dome.

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