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#411057 Mar 5, 12:40pm
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I want to buy a short throw shifter but when I was in my friend erics car it was hard to shift. It felt really stiff.

Whats the ups and downs of a short throw shifter? what on should I get?


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even tho is stiffer, you'll get use to it in no time. Its worth it. one of the best mod i did. You get faster shifting.


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humm... are the cheap ebay ones worth it?


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^^ Risky, i'd say get a TWM. I had it and loved it! Check out twmperformance.com thumbsup

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I've heard its really stiff for the first few weeks, but it gets somewhat better. go for it dude, if I had a manual cry I totally would thumbsup

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i hear twm is hardest becsue its shortest. I woudl say get b&m, its not as short but easier to shift smile You are going to hear both sides btu it really has to do with what you want. Bm is nto as short as other but is easier to shift. twm is really short so looks better but is a tad harder. So its up to you smile

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B&M thumbsup


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well I dont want a really short one because then my arms wouldnt reach when I go into either 1st 3rd or 5th and I dont want to hit the e-brake handle when shifing into 2nd 4th and 6th. Maybe im just thinkin too much about it...

B&M it is. Thanks guys thumbsup


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Every thought about TRD? I hear they give the smooth stock feel and isn't as short as the TWM. I think 40% shorter than stock.

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you know that thought never crossed my mind... I have to look into those. Well I didnt even know trd made a short shifter haha.


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TWM is the shortest one sitting in the celica height wise...B&M Actually has the shortest throw.


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i would not recommed the twm, the b&m seems to be better, i wish thats what i would have got

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I just drove erics car around today and he has the twm. shorter then I want but I got used to it real fast. So I guess im leaning towards the B&M now.


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get TRD it has the smoothest throw. i have it and i love it thumbsup


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TWM all the way thumbsup

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ok whats the price difference between the trd, twm, and b&m?


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B&M you can pick up for $120 (or so) with new bushings, knob and lube included

TWM runs around $ 130 without bushings or new knob, $223 with the new knob but still no bushings

TRD runs $130 but does not fit all gen7 celicas also does not come with new bushing or a new knob

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get B&M from suprastore.com thumbsup

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why wouldnt the trd fit all 7th gen celicas?


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TRD doesn't fit the cars manufactured after May of 2001
the shift gates were changed, but the rod can be swapped out...just not the entire assembly

just get B&M, i love it, so easy and is awesome


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ok b&m it is


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i think the twm looks so much better though

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B&M knockoff's from Megan Racing is $45-50 shipped. Go to google and type in "megan racing short shifter". It's EXACTLY like B&M with aluminum bushings included. You only need to buy lithium grease yourself but that's like 3bucks.

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really! nice! thanks for the info.


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my b&m shifter came with everything except the knob, but the stock leather knob looks way better than a metal one anyways...very easy install, only bad thing is the stiffness, but that goes away in a week or so...b&m is a good shifter...

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I got my B&M last week and it too didn't come with the knob. Oh well I have a authentic TRD knob. Shifter looks and feels great.

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Originally Posted by Gen7fan
B&M you can pick up for $120 (or so) with new bushings, knob and lube included

TWM runs around $ 130 without bushings or new knob, $223 with the new knob but still no bushings

TRD runs $130 but does not fit all gen7 celicas also does not come with new bushing or a new knob

BS, i got my TWM for 129 shipped with aluminum bushings.


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i just got mine from ebay for 40 bucks and it works fine. came with everything.the shift is stiff but i like it


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Does it look like any of the ones mentioned above?

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..i just installed my twm yesterday...real stiff n yeah the shifts feel shorter...ill give it a couple weeks to smooth out... i like it thumbsup


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man, you 7th gens suck tongue
my only option is the twm, that or cut my stock one, which i did spineyes

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i got the OBX from eBay, $75 shipped...no complaints whatsoever...perfect throw, i love it


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fidanza here. 61.99 shipped from ultrarev.com...just install it today..
short throw, i like it..not too stiff..here's a pic for ya
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So the B&M has the shortest throw? And can't you adjust the height when you install?

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yes it has the shortest throw and no you cant adjust the height unless you cut it yourself

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Originally Posted by Gen7fan
B&M you can pick up for $120 (or so) with new bushings, knob and lube included

TWM runs around $ 130 without bushings or new knob, $223 with the new knob but still no bushings

Partially correct, our shifter is on sale for $132.95 right now including shipping but we do include aluminum bushings with every one of our 7th gen Celica kits. The bushings actually make a huge difference in shift feel and remove virtually all of the "play" from the shifter. You can purchase them here: http://www.twmperformance.com/shortshifters/toyotashortshifters/celicashortshifters.htm

If you have any questions you can reach me anytime at [email]sales@twmperformance.com.[/email]

Thanks,

Karel
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its been awhile. I bought a b&m short throw. thanks for all your input


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wow i think i am goign to look into the fidanza one thumbsup

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