I replaced one of them today and not to because got dark but damn it was a bitch to get to them at first, then i got the hang of it. Replaced with jl audio vrs, Big difference (already replaced front with all jl vrs) would of posted pics but damn digital is all fucked! I had to taked off the back piece the back side piece and then finally got to where the speakers are. Damn it sucked. Got kinda mad! Just wanted to update ya guys and let ya know what ur in for. Later chad