Celica Forums General Discussion Engine and Performance Turbo or Engine swap

I Have a 2004 Toyota Celica GT with INjen cold air intake and Greddy Exausht but I want more HP either drop a turbo or should i swap engine and tranny for the VVTL-i.

turbo it

turbo will shut your complains. if you are still not satisfied then trade it in for a much faster car.

trade it lol

C2 Turbo

c'mon it should be obvious!! turbo! why spend 2-4k on engine swap & labor costs + extra 2-3k for turbo on the gts.

just upgrade your internals & get turbo!

turbo

psh a 2zz engine swaped in with a 1zz is not worth it ... go with the 3sgte engine if your thinking about swaping... other wise just trade the car in for a GTS

Turbo would be cheaper...go w/ that.

You should stick with the 1zz. I saw something recently that might validate this. In the new issue of Sport Compact Car magazine, in the letters section, someone writes in that they're on the list for getting a Lotus and want to know about mods. What does the magazine suggest? First - ditch the 2zz in favor of a more mod-friendly 1zz. They tell him to pick up a used one, upgrade the internals, then turbo it with a modest 6-8 psi. They said that the 2zz is better for N/A because of the high revving and high compression, but the 1zz is more friendly to mods. To close out, they told him to keep the 2zz motor packed away in his garage, so in case he sells the car, reinstall it and it'll be no miles. I thought that this was cool for us GT guys.

^^yeah, I read that and was like sweet. The cover feature made me drool all day. For those of you who don't have the mag, it's a story on the "Quickest production car ever!", a Nissan Skyline R-34 GT-R Z-Tune. AWD, 500 hp, quarter in ~10seconds. Can you say Dayum?

TURBO

Lift is nothin compared to a turbo...so TURBO!!

the 1zz is ideal for turbo, blowers, even NOS because of its low compression. with the 2zz you have a higher compression ebngine that not really compatible to turboes or blowers, sometimes even NOS. i have known a few dicks that ran a turbo from XS and didnt lower the compression nor, re-enforce the internals what they do? blew their engines. i've told them before the compression is way too high for ideal forced induction. i have a a GTS, the 2ZZ work horse for me is just fine, i have had trouble finding parts, most of my parts are one-of customs, my pistons heads, connecting arms, my crank was balanced, and the tranny re-enforced. i have even upped the compression to almost 12.5, i have custom exhaust, trial headers, polished intake manifold, stage 3 portin and polishing. im int he middle of bumpin up the displacement to a full 2.2 with a custom stroker kit. needless to say the stock ECU met the trash can, computer work is managed by a Greddy unit. its whatever works for you. how ever muc you can swing. lol im almost dont with the mods for my car, the last dyno ran it had before we pulled he engine for the stroker kit was 240hp, rivals that of a S2000. it got 228 ft/lbs. of torque. not bad for a 4 cylinder grocery getter. yes this is my daily drive. and oh yeah one more note, my friends with turboed or blown civics, they spend most of their time at the shops, engines equipped with forced induction have to be more pampered than N/A cars. but all this comes down to you its ur car man. feel free

how many extra pony's do you think the extra 12.5 comp ratio gave ya? and were those pistons custom or can I get them somewheres.. run ok on pump gas?

ps turbo the GT motor or swop it with a 3sgte, 5-8 grand isn't worth 40 extra HP and 20 extra pdft of torque. with a turbo and comparable investment you can probably get almost 100 extra HP and torque..

Turbo!!!!!

the pistons are custom, and yeah i run on 93 octane gas, and it hasnt cost me 5-8 grand. just that i kno ppl that deal with the custom work i needed. and yes the custom stroker kit got done today, i got my car back. we dynoed at 310 on 93 octane gas. like i said it all up to him. this is what works for me. lol

thats a lot of money...


i'd rather be happy with what i got...or trade it in for something faster (Stock), and keep the money i got on the trade in

Thanks everbody

If you cant post the pics of the dyno here you can also email it to me ...

lucky317@controlledinertia.com

OK.... So after some research a lot of people rekon that turbo is the way to go... however, I have also heard that the 2ZZ struggles with boost due to the compression so I'm looking at 6-7PSI max if i leave internals stock... I started a thread (2ZZ turbo or 3SGTE swap) but I'm impatient... lol So to reignite the flame.

1. stock plus 6-7PSI boost turbo kit
2. mod 2zz internals + 10-12PSI bost (if even possible/drivable)
3. 3S-GTE

Thanks in advance