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I have been wondering what this lift everyone keeps talking about. I never heard of it before and really like to know what the hell it is
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lift is something that gts have not gt
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Umm yea that didnt help me one bit...WTF is it...explain it...I have a TAcoma XRunner not a celica...I have no idea what lift is
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ya basically...its a 40 HP gain at 6000 RPM's to redline...
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kinda like v-tec but better
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DAMN I got VVT-i why dont i have lift...I want that extra 40hp...take me up to 290hp  Well these are not very good explinations on what it is...i would like to know how it works
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ya basically...its a 40 HP gain at 6000 RPM's to redline... 
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oh, in short, [b] LIFT, it's a kick in the pants.  
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its not an extra 40 horses, the vvtli engined is designed to allow the driver to go further into power band thus being able to use more power...or something like that, I drive a GT  so i'm not technelogicly sure exactly how to say it
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Hey pecker i had them correct that  
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oh, in short, [b] LIFT, it's a kick in the pants. In short my 285lb trq is a kick in the pants to 
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NOOOOOO...its from www.sporttruck.com [ sporttruck.com] on the 2005 sport truck of the year write up..and yes the XRunner wont hat award. I have Potenza RE050A 255/45/18 tires on it...I would never do a burn out..only have a 23,000mile life on hem rating I cant afford 220 a tire right now for new ones
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ya basically...its a 40 HP gain at 6000 RPM's to redline... ill admit its a little vague but when it comes down to it...what does lift produce...the extra 40 HP that toyota quotes when quoting HP numbers...so i wasnt wrong...just vague as hell...and what zero said is right to...a kick in the pants ...just at 6000 RPM's
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its not an extra 40 horses, the vvtli engined is designed to allow the driver to go further into power band thus being able to use more power...or something like that, I drive a GT so i'm not technelogicly sure exactly how to say it ill be honest i dont know EXACTLY how to describe it...right but in your GT when you hit 6000 RPM's do you get the power boost...nope...i mean its not like wow 40 HP gain...but like you def. feel it
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kinda like v-tec but better almost same concept technology... there's no proof which is better...
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ya basically...its a 40 HP gain at 6000 RPM's to redline... ill admit its a little vague but when it comes down to it...what does lift produce...the extra 40 HP that toyota quotes when quoting HP numbers...so i wasnt wrong...just vague as hell...and what zero said is right to...a kick in the pants ...just at 6000 RPM's Must be nice going that high...my redline is 5400...LOL but i got MUCHO power and lots of lowend 
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AHHHHH well its still an awsome day outside and my truck is all nice and clean...Time to go take a drive and look at all the little hoes walking in the parks...LOL
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VTEC and VVTL-i are similar, but even honda owners have admitted that the sound of LIFT kicking in is much more crazier than when Vtec kicks in. thank you Yamaha
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I get grouchy if I don't hit lift at least twice a day! Exhilarating to say the least, those who have not felt it, need to!
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lift is that funny feeling in my pants...
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Well there is no S/C in development right now from TRD it was a lie. URD is working on a Twin Turbo kit I am thinking about...Thats about 400hp
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VVTi = Variable Valve Timing (What GT's & your truck has)
VVTi-L = ABOVE plus valve lift
The valves actually have variable amounts of opening and duration on top of variable valve timing. It makes a huge diff when your reving real high. Not useful for engines without very high redlines. The new V-Tech-i is similar.
I hope mya half ass explanation works?
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yea that works for me...Guess I def wont have it..since my redline is 5400 and tac only goes to 7grand
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Yeah guys sorta got it. There's been lots of explanations...but actually...if you look at the dynos...
LIFT gives you about 25 hp at about 6200rpm's and maintains it to redline ~8350rpm. the total 40hp difference between the GT and the GTS is also caused by the fact that GT's have a 10.0:1 compression ratio and the GTS has 11.5:1 compression ratio.
if your XRunner could rev high enough for lift to be useful...that would be absolutely sick
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well i never heard atruck motor going that high...Plus you can tell from the design of the motor it is not made for high revs...It has a real slow rev and revdown it reminds me ALOT like mustang gt's how they have a slower rev.
When a light flywheel comesout...I am def going for it
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yeah your truck is sick...I saw a couple road test show thingers on it...def. look really fun. and obviously it's not made for higher revs...BUT some race mustang GT's rev up to 7k. It's risky as hell...but well w/e no point there..lol. SWEET TRUCK
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Yea...The truck wasnt really designed for drag..it was made for the corners...I love the fact that it pulls over .9g not that i ever drive that way but still...:)
It gets ALOT of looks to...I like it cause its unique cause there are like NONE on the road...so I am like the only one in the pittsburgh area really. I wish it had a 48v 3.8 V8 that comes in a 355...hahahahahaha that would be and sound sooooooo sick
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HAHAHAHAHAHA my X on GT4 has 534HP...Game kinda pissed me off..I had no intnetion to really do much...but after playing and all that HP...I started wanting more and more for my real truck
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Cool. I think I'm gonna go play the game. I'm in the middle of the Supercar Challenge using my Skyline GT-R Vspec with 820 hp.
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alright then. so how much quicker is a gts than a gt. i have a gt. i supposedly can get off the line quicker b/c the low end torque is better. if you only get the extra boost at 6200 rpm's or so, then what's the big difference. what would you gain... a couple of feet... that is, after you get to 6200 rpm's. i would think it would be about the same. i've also heard from someone on here that they had a gt that beat a gts. how many people have raced each other? and what were the outcomes?
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alright then. so how much quicker is a gts than a gt. i have a gt. i supposedly can get off the line quicker b/c the low end torque is better. if you only get the extra boost at 6200 rpm's or so, then what's the big difference. what would you gain... a couple of feet... that is, after you get to 6200 rpm's. i would think it would be about the same. i've also heard from someone on here that they had a gt that beat a gts. how many people have raced each other? and what were the outcomes? The GTS has higher compression. Its going to have a larger powerband of HP vs a GT...I think a GTS should be ahead of a GT from the get go..plus the fast of having like extra 40hp
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alright then. so how much quicker is a gts than a gt. i have a gt. i supposedly can get off the line quicker b/c the low end torque is better. if you only get the extra boost at 6200 rpm's or so, then what's the big difference. what would you gain... a couple of feet... that is, after you get to 6200 rpm's. i would think it would be about the same. i've also heard from someone on here that they had a gt that beat a gts. how many people have raced each other? and what were the outcomes? The GTS has higher compression. Its going to have a larger powerband of HP vs a GT...I think a GTS should be ahead of a GT from the get go..plus the fast of having like extra 40hp it also has a diffrent bore and stroke compared to the gts short stoke large bore compared to long stroke and short bore ones great for reving higher casue the pistons travel less distance which = the fact that below 4k the gts blows
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Dont matter...look at it this way..My old non turbo 3000gt had 10:1 compression then the twin turbo model...wich had 8.5:1 now that car didnt make any power really till those turbos boosted in. It is no comparison on the VR4 would beat the non turbo..that lift is kinda same thing...It makes all its power to go passing by when its power does kick in
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youre way behind CT, way behind  look up at my first post in this thread. Hey pecker i had them correct that
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Lift is something that 2x $.60 cents bolts can f*ck up if they break.
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Lift is something that 2x $.60 cents bolts can f*ck up if they break.
Lift can't be described but should be experienced by all Celica drivers. and all matrix, corolla, mrs, and elise owners. 
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Well there is no S/C in development right now from TRD it was a lie. URD is working on a Twin Turbo kit I am thinking about...Thats about 400hp are you serious
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its basically a cam profile change at 6000 rpm test drive one and find out for yourself itll make you want one
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its basically a cam profile change at 6000 rpm test drive one and find out for yourself itll make you want one hahahahahaha NOOOO. I cant afford to want something else...I pay 491 month now for my truck..Then pay for my house and all that...I think i will take your word for it
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your missing out I think i am doing just fine...my 250HP and 285lb trq keep me plenty happy
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