Celica Forums General Discussion Exterior SEMA Celica TRD SUPERCHARGER!

how would it cost to do this to a celica?

that includes everything, custom hood, trd supercharger, labor, and anything else needed?

lol-as far as gains we can only speculate . the 1zz s/c for matrix and corolla is figured at 160 lbs. of tourque and 40% hp gain. i don't think there is much diference between the GT and corolla and matrix only the fact that the GT was tuned more for performance.

so speculation-celi s/c GT @ 196hp and 160+lbs of tq= more hp and tq than stock GTS or Sport M (<

CT you can also say, it comes with CARB certified and Toyota Warrenty ... what I'm curious about is if they make a kit for the GT will they include a stronger clutch as well

Also if the GT is tuned more on the perfomance over a corrola and matrix maybe it will bring it just over 200hp

Plus these are numbers to the wheels if I remember correctly. So 196 hp and 160lbs tq are some decent numbers to the wheels for a 5spd that weighs 2500lbs. I would bet that you could hit a 13 with those numbers and good traction.

If those ARE to the wheels, I may seriously consider this.

i doubt it's to the wheels...a GT 5-sp avg. at 120-125hp to the wheels...add 40% and it's at 168-175 at the wheels..again all is speculation without a statement from trd or a dyno

Wouldn't you be able to tune it though and get some more numbers out of it?

i guess you could ...but i know little about the 1zz trd s/c and it's potential

if this made for GT only, wouldn't that cannibalize sales for the GTS? It doesn't make sense.

I mean, it does make sense in a way, because this S/C has already been developed for the 1zz...just for different models.

With that in mind, I don't see why Toyota would do something like that without offering some kind of incentive to purchase the higher-end GTS??

i don't think it will "cannibalize" sales. some may not want to deal with the new hood of the GT s/c. some may want all the other features the GTS offers i.e. lift and rear disc brakes...

besides trd makes headers for only GTS and now that "hondata" type PowerFC is out...well, if you include exhaust and intake that makes for a lot of power over the stock the 180hp

Sure, but PowerFC's are made by Apex'i, not Toyota's in-house TRD. I mean, I'm sure Toyota would just love it if you spent all your money on Toyota-brand performance parts, rather than buying from Apex'i, AEM, etc, etc. What is TRD gonna offer owners of GTS's?

So if Toyota allows production of a S/C kit (including hood)for the GT, the average Joe Blow can now look at it and say, "wow, I could spend the money on buying a GT and putting the TRD S/C kit on it without voiding the warranty...or I can buy a stock GTS with less power for roughly the same price."

What are the differences between a GT and a GTS? The rear brakes? What else besides the obvious engine differences? Who cares about lift when you can add a S/C?

I'm not trying to bash Toyota or Celicas here, I'm just saying I'd be a little confused if they gave the go-ahead to start selling this S/C kit without offering something for the GTS.

good points. i dunno what toyo has in mind. maybe they just don't care because 7th gen will be over after 04'. it would be in trd's best interest to go with a s/c'd GTS but we'll see. maybe the GT s/c is a result of power hungry GT owners...supply and demand. you're guess is as good as mine.

with GTS, you get several luxury features such as...

• Rear Disc Brakes
  Simulated Leather Seats
  Side Impact Air Bags
  Moon Roof
  Six Speed Manual Transmission
  (or a 4 speed "Sport Shift", but with Cruise Control)
  16" Aluminum Alloy Wheels
  Power Front Windows
  Power Door Locks
  Leather Wrapped Steering Wheels and Gear Shift
  Premium 3-in-1 AM/FM Cassette/CD 8 Speaker Sound System with External AMP
  Power Antenna
  Aluminum Sport Pedals
  Black Cloth Rear Seats
  Security Alarm
  Fog Lamps
  ...and many other details

On a GT, you will have to pay additional for those luxuries

Many people when spending $18,000 to $26,000 on a new car, have already put allot of thought into what they want... Are they going to buy a car and want everything already done to it? are they going to buy a car and want to heavily tune it with the money they saved, do they just want something that will bring them to work and that looks stylish at the same time, are they young and want to impress the opposite gender or do they need something that will hold a baby seat for their newest family addition...

Another factor to enter into this debate is... 2004 is possibly the past year for this current model - so it really doesn't matter what the average Joe is looking for in a new car - because in a few short months, the only place you are able to make your choices at, are on used-car lot - aka; if you don't see it, you don't get it

whoa...you GTS guys get lotsa stuff...

I think toyota will phase out the 2ZZ-GE power plant in place of a 1ZZ-FE plant for the GTS, and a non S/C GT

That way, they will stop having tranny, engine and other problems.

Sad, but probably true.

i hope not...lift technology is great

http://www.partznet.com/toyota/corolla/trdcorollasupercharger.html

more info on s/c 1zz (for corolla/matrix though)...hmmmmm

it's possible, but i just read that toyota announced at SEMA that the new 'corolla xrs sedan' will be powered by the 2zz.

sweeeeeeet... comes with engine management system

yeah i figure those matrix 1/4 mile times and 0-60 times will drop just because our celis weigh less...

definately... the stock matrix 0-60 is a whopping 12 seconds

I always said it would look better with a taller cowl for the S/C. Hell, I photochopped it months ago... Looks like TRD thought of the same thing... Their design is a lot cooler looking than my sloppy concept:

Cool find Iced, I appreciate the pics...

You could probably use it on the 2ZZ... With a smaller pulley (5-7 PSI pulley like the blitz kit) and a re-tuned ECU.

And look at it this way. If you blow your 2zz, you can always swap a 1zz in an Supercharge it...

It gives me peace of mind knowing this... ^_^ Heres hoping we see toyota release a kit for the 2ZZ, complete w-dished pistons and a deck sleeve ('course, you could always just pin the sleeves).

i know...even my auto GT don't go 12 seconds...

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These come also with the GT version of the celica. Not???

hell yea, lift is def. the reason i like my car so much...

they should make an aftermarket hood.. kinda resembling the Mitsubishi Eclipse hood.. with the "power hump" look to it.. but ofcouse so it fits the celica's supercharger...
but damn i want one for a GTS!

More pictures!!!

Personally, I don't like that you have to put a hole in your hood just to make this thing fit, I'd like to have a supercharger that fits under the stock hood that way you don't give anything off to anyone, specially like that pimple that other celica had

Question:

Blitz is able to get their supercharger under the GTS hood without modifications. Why can't TRD do it?

well... looks like i'm going turbo after all. the cowl hood design is aight and the supercharger's gains aren't enough for me to buy one.

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I think that if they can tune it with maybe some other minor mods and are able to get 190 to the wheels and 160 tq, for under 5000, I think its worth it. No turbo lag, will always have that power throughout the entire powerband, plus you won't have to buy all those accessories.

Yeah under $5000 for everything wouldn't be too bad ... S/C, Hood, Tuning, and Install

$5000

exactly...$5000 is still a lot of damn money!!!!

for $5000 you could get the hotchkis comp set up, race tires and some minor mods (I/H/E) and walks circles around Italian sports cars.

And still have like $2500 to spend on the Italian chicks you pick up after Paolo looses the race

well...$5000 for everything isn't bad ... take a turbo for example.

Kit $3500
Gauges $500
Install $500
Tuning $500

That's $5000

Thats why i dont' have one...waste of money in my eyes...u can get a turbo for most other cars for $3000 installed.

lol-again the numbers are all speculation till we see a statement from trd or a dyno.

And also, I said under 5000. The charger itself is like 2500. Thats 1000 less than turbo. The real price is with the hood mod and the intercooler. Other than that, the rest of the money goes to tuning and drivetrain (clutch, flywheel, LSD)

i admit the cowl looks good with the body kit but i'm curious how it would look without one and just stock? photochop anyone?

good point, ct.

crazy supercharger. BTW, and sorry if this iss off topic, but what rims are those? they are extremly nice.

for 5000, ill get a turbo but this is not enough, take note we need boost controller, turbo timer, fuel management etc. etc...

How much more hp will turbo give to the celica?

not certain of DD's turbo but the SF turbo is at 230+ to the wheels @ 8psi

http://www.newcelica.org/other/dyno/sfpower/highboost.jpg

the thing about not getting a turbo for me is that i'm in california...CARB is very important. that is why the trd s/c seems promising to me...but again there are a lot of questions that need to be answered first.

"CARB is very important" wath does it mean?

Can you install a short ram intake w/the TRD supercharger? All of the pics have the stock airbox

CARB is the part of the california government that monitors car emissions and air quality. they make rules about modifying your engine, and if you sell your car, it has to be smogged (it needs to have its emissions levels at a reasonable amount) before you can legally give it to someone else.

they basically keep the air clean in california

i thought carb rules only applied in certain states?