Celica Forums General Discussion General Converting a GT to GTS

my friend owns a celica gt but he did the rear disk brake conversion, but he left his car debadged and didnt put a GTS emblem on it...it looks like a gts but you can tell its a gt once you pop the hood or look at the gauges..btw my gts didnt come with the 16 in alloys...the 16 in was an option that i didnt opt for...anyways dont do it, just debadge and go for the clean look

Forget it man, can't save him from himself...
Bobjoe don't forget you'll find the coolest mods for your car at Wal-mart. Have fun with your poser car

It pisses celica owners off because your posing as something it isnt. I know its your car, you asked for OUR advice on it. We are telling you what we think. It's just stupid saying you have something you dont have. Theres a celica around here that I can tell a mile away its a GT. Yet, its marked as a GTS and it pisses me off. Represent what you have, not what you dont have. If you really are too ashamed at having a GT, then just debadge it. That way, your not offending other celica owners, and your still enigmatic on what you have.

GT owners are proud they have a GT. Yes, some GT owners are screwed around with because they are the 'slower' conterpart (but by no means a slow car) to the GTS. But do you see anyone on here putting a GTS badge on here? No. Why is this? Because they have pride in their Celica GT.

^^^what he said. Well put.

Thanks greg.

It pisses people here off because the mass majority of us drive celicas, and you are defacing the very name of them everywhere by doing this.
Seriously dude, not to be a dick or anything but if you were to say (theoretically)that you go to an ecelica meet or any meet, you'd probably be; 1.) Ignored 2.) Ridiculed to your very face 3.)The top negative subject of the evening. Not trying ot be an ass, but its true.
Don't expect to make very many Celica friends, or have them for very long.

I debadged my car, but it wasn't because I'm ashamed at all. I'm very proud to own a Celica GT. My last two cars were a '91 Volkswagen Fox (81 hp) and then a '90 Mercury Sable (something like 160 hp but as heavy as a semitruck) You own a car that is very respectable don't give everyone else that mods their cars a bad name by ricing it out. peace

Debadging is totally cool, I plan to do it myself. MISbadging on the other hand is just rice

dont do it thats just being silly...id be able to tell that your car was a gt right off the bat when i look at your rear drum brakes...save the embarassment of getting made fun of for doing it!

Pick up a VVT-i badge, if you want to make them think

What about the opposite? What about putting a GT badge on a GTS?

first any one can tell a GT from a GTS
1.the emblem
2.the rims
3.the mufler
4.the engine if you pop ur hood
5.the gauges
dont be a GTS wanna be you will look a lot worse if ur friends find out i just hate that shit if you wanted a GTS y didnt you get one duhhhhhhhhhhhhh

You people give me a headache with that crap. I've raced an auto GT and won by quite a bit... not multiple car lengths, but quite a bit. I've also DRIVEN a 5-speed GT, and I think that the GTS auto would hang from a roll.

It's slow in the 1/4, I get that... but it's not a friggin OZ Rally Lancer.

I've got mine with a VVTI badge, and i think it looks sweet.

Yes well maybe YOU did, but as it has been said "anything can happen on the street," and just because a car "feels" a certain way that doesn't necessarily reflect what it can/can't do. My car may "feel" fast but it sure as hell isn't. From what I've heard mostly the gearing (not to sure though!!!), and of course the infamous "torque" of the GT, the auto GT should come out ahead...(imho)

From a roll, however I agree with you. After the 1-2 shift I don't see much of a reason why the auto GTS wouldn't be able to keep up.

...and do note my original post said "from a stop."

Now theres an idea.

can someone show me a picture of a gt and also a gts and circle the disc breaks.

Disc brake:



Drum brake:


What a drum brake is:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/drum-brake.htm

What a disc brake is:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/disc-brake.htm

thanks for the pic, but take a look at this auction

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...;category=15288 [cgi.ebay.com]


its for a celica GT, scroll all the way to the buttom and look at the front wheel. It looks exactly the same, including the rims and the break thing. Am I seeing something wrong here?

What about the front wheel The GT HAS disc brakes in the front and not the back!
GTS has disc brakes in front AND back!

Therefore if I look at your car and see no disc brakes in the rear, and a GTS emblem, I am going to notice, and call BS! (theoretically speaking)

...and like others/I said above, having a GTS auto, in the least,won't be any better than having a GT auto.

Bobjoe.. you arent going to win this one. We all got OUR CELICAS for what we wanted in them, even if we couldnt afford top of the line, we still love them for everything they are and arent going to POSE them as something they arent. If you really wanna swich badges, then go ahead.. but you'll look like an idiot in the end. Bottom line.

5280vvti, I know what you mean about a cars "feel" not meaning much in determining speed. However, there is a kid I bowl with who has an auto GT. I raced him from a stop and won... and it's not like there is much room for variation with an auto. It isn't like a different driver could have shifted different or something

The "feel" comment was concerning the GT 5-speed, which I have never raced but have driven. Perhaps I'm totally wrong... but I'm not arguing that point too strongly. I'm just offended when people tell me that the GT auto is faster, when I've clearly proven it's not.

dude, dont do that. you may look "cool" to people that dont have celicas, but, for the other celica owners out there, they will be able to tell. and they well be disgusted.

i'm a proud Celica GT owner with a VVT-I emblem, don't rice it out with a GTS badge , just be proud that you saved that extra $5000 or whatever that can go towards a Turbocharger one day

While you are slapping on a GTS embl. in the back, you might as well pop on some spinners and be ghetto fab.



Honestly, I think this is someone messing with everyone, honestly, no one can be this stupid.

Sure they can be that stupid. You know how many "GT-R" Celi's I've seen?

Don't even make me count how many I've seen out here who apparently have "Vtec".

true

I know people can be pretty stupid but this person seems a lil diff. than the rest. We are pointing out all the obvious differences and he/she seems to still "test" everyone stating "i still don't see the differences"


To the orig. poster, if you want to "convert" LMAO your GT to a GTS go for it...


Another celica bites the dust.

Rev, I in know way intended to offend/bash auto GTS owners, or their cars in anyway. I am going off of what I have heard, and what I believe to be true, but I am more than open to accept otherwise if I could see more consistent proof.

btw. Were you shifting manually? Was he? Just wondering

Hey, no biggie. Not that many people here race their auto GTS's... and even fewer people race their auto GT's... I'm interested myself to know the results if anyone else has raced the two together.

Anywho, in my race I was shifting manually on the wheel. I don't know what the GT driver was doing. Their cars don't have the sport shift, but he could have walked it through the gears with the shift lever.

hey man you need a gts engine i have one for sale total swap

I would like add a few things, to help bobjoe:

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last but in no way least:

this guy is trying to convince us instead of us convincing him.
im gonna tell you wut i think: 3 pages of posts saying FUCK NO must mean something. all the celica owners here are saying no and ur trying to convince them. you are an official ricer! you dont worth driving a celica if you dont know the difference between a gt and a gts. sell ur celica asap and get urself a fucken honda civic and change the emblems to ferrari modena and put a huge spoiler on it. if celica owners here are saying no, imagine wut ppl on the street are gonan do to u. why the fuck you wanna look like a gts? you know wuts the diference? its only performace difference, and you dont have that. and if you dont then how r you gonna prove it? the point is that you have a celica, and you care for the looks. 1/100 gts have gt rims, so everyone is gonna think twice when seeing ur car. if you wanna do something at least put vvt-i badge because not a lot of ppl will understand but ull be right on it, and it looks cool. instead of wasting money on the gts emblem, save urself money for a nice body kit or something. if one more post you try to convince us of how gt and gts look the same, i hope the mods will kick you out of here and you lose ur celica somehow. i hope i dont see you on the streets

you know what the difference between a gt and a gts is?? Owning a GTS means you have $$$ and we all know how much girls love guys with money. I already said I don't care about Performance, I don't race and the GT engine is more than fast enough for practical purposes.

If you need an extra "S" on the back of your car to pick up girls, you are ONE SAD MOFO.

Anyway, even girls will laugh at you. You didn't know what disc brakes were?!?! My MOM knows what disc brakes are.

Get a life. I'm 99.99% sure that you are just pulling our leg and doing this as a joke, because NOBODY could be this dumb.

Isaac, Tony... SOMEONE! Close this thread asap... cause this moron is just getting kicks out of annoying us.

I no longer give a fuck.

All I can say...

The exhaust tip is the easiest way to tell the difference.
Its obvious this guy is a CAR noob and will out his celi.

LMAO at scared kitty!

if you want to spend the extra amount of money to buy the GTS badge go for it, or you can just debadge if for free and i think it looks better with no emblems, i am debadged and i think it looks better with out a 'GTS' or 'toyota' on the back anyway nice and clean

I didnt read the last 2 pages. my post sounded gay

Dude...wtf? Girls that go after what you own do not like you for you...they like you for what you have. Do you honestly want a girl that wants you because you have a 'cool car'? I sure as hell wouldnt.

This guy is either really funny or very, very stupid. Damn ricers will never learn.

How many non-celica-knowledgable ( ) chicks are going give a crap if your celica is a GT or GTS? Chances that they will even no there is a GT or GTS !?!