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I took my air box apart last night, to get to my linkages to lube them as part of routine maintenance. I noticed the butterfly valve could be removed from the air box, so I took it completely out. I plugged up the tube that went to the valve on the butterfly, and put the butterfly in my back seat. The engine can finally breathe, and it ROARS. it takes 3 seconds to reinstall the butterfly, so if you, like me, are worried about problems with hydrolocking/dealer with having a CAI, it might be worth the 5 minutes it takes to remove the butterfly housing completely, freeing up the airway into the filter. What a difference! 
To have played and laughed with enthusiasm
and sung with exultation
To know even one life has breathed easier
This is to have succeeded.
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The 2ZZ god
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Werd! j/k to 
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Wheezy Joe 2002 Kawasaki Ninja 250
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I thought people were just plugging the hose up and leaving the valve in there. I didn't realize it could be REMOVED completely... 
To have played and laughed with enthusiasm
and sung with exultation
To know even one life has breathed easier
This is to have succeeded.
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Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica
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haha  this was good for a quick laugh. thanx 
Best 60' 1.959 best 1/4 - 13.7 @ 101mph
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C'mon & hit me! 2000 Toyota Celica GTS
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C'mon & hit me!
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awww crap...you guys beat me to it...i got dynos for butterlfy removal if you want them diablo...
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Masta OC 2003 Toyota Celica
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^^^ what are the results of the dyno? If they are good, I'll do it this afternoon while I install my clear corners
I'm just a crosshair
I'm just a shot away from you
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C'mon & hit me! 2000 Toyota Celica GTS
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^^^ what are the results of the dyno? If they are good, I'll do it this afternoon while I install my clear corners i will show you for a price...do you have trd sways for sale? or know anyone who does for cheap?...lol
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C'mon & hit me! 2000 Toyota Celica GTS
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i'm not kidding about the sways...lol
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Masta OC 2003 Toyota Celica
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Sorry, I have no hookups. I have tons of used bowling equiptment for sale cheap though.  That isn't bad. It's only a couple of HP, but it's worth the effort.
I'm just a crosshair
I'm just a shot away from you
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ThE iRoN mAiDeN 2003 Toyota Celica GT
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you will hear that but you will not feel it, IMO.
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C'mon & hit me! 2000 Toyota Celica GTS
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you will hear that but you will not feel it, IMO. .5whp overall...1.8 max whp at lift?? you'll definately not feel it...unless you got one of those sensitive ricer asses that can dyno-butt a CAI @ 10whp...lol
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^^^ werd, its pointless other than the sound which is what the butterfly is there for.
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Masta OC 2003 Toyota Celica
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you will hear that but you will not feel it, IMO. .5whp overall...1.8 max whp at lift?? you'll definately not feel it...unless you got one of those sensitive ricer asses that can dyno-butt a CAI @ 10whp...lol That's my new phrase. "Oh yeah ricer? What said you got 35 HP from that muffler? Your ass dyno?"
I'm just a crosshair
I'm just a shot away from you
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Bread Fishing.. 2001 Toyota Celica GT
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LNK
"you only need something when you know it exists..then it becomes a want"
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I just removed the butterfly from my car too,  it sounds much better. But like everyone is saying you won't feel it.
"A fight is not won by one punch or kick. Either learn to endure or hire a bodyguard." - Bruce Lee
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I can feel it for sure, the car is smoother running and louder.
that valve is like giving the car asthma
To have played and laughed with enthusiasm
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To know even one life has breathed easier
This is to have succeeded.
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Sport Compact Car did the same thing on their project GTS a few years ago. They swore it made the worlds difference but for whatever reason the numbers didn't reflect that.
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well, it's essentially a "ram air" on a 2000-2002 because air from in front of the hole in the bumper goes DIRECTLY into the filter element area, if you remove the radiator bonnet (Which my dealer stole)
It's louder, and runs smoother to me. Anything that lets the engine breathe or exhale better is a great mod
To have played and laughed with enthusiasm
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To know even one life has breathed easier
This is to have succeeded.
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