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Ok for all you turbo freaks out there, the DD Turbo is finished


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Do not ask me any questions ... go read the thread.

I think it's gonna be time for a loan soon

makes me wish i still live at home and don't need to worry about rent...


that would be so fun to have

TURBO!!!!

lets do the wave

someone better hold me back.. I've got a gold card and I know how to use it!

Finally finished! Time to get turbo charged!

hey i can finally take out that little plastic thing under my hood that says "place turbo here"

Is that only for the GTS?

NO WAY...this turbo is ONLY for the GT!!

How much HP will this increase the GT approximately??

Hell Yea

arent there already like THREE turbo kits out for the gt? bring on the gts kits!!

neato!

dang...i might have to trade my gts for a gt so i can get a turbo!!!

the GTS has turbos too, but that turbo is sick damn! me jealous

not just yet bro, he said his next project MIGHT be a turbo fot gts, and it should take less time. it all depends on how many gt turbos he sells. the profit made for gt turbos, he says, will go into developing gts turbos. David Draper is a saint, lol.

just plain savage!

Teh turbo is only for the GT?! I'm gonna cry.

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"The kit is projected to produce 230 hp at the flywheel, and it has been installed on an automatic GT, although further testing will be needed to determine long-term results on the transmission."

SWEET!

is it just for the GT? or does it work with the GTS? either way sssswwweeeeeettttt

gt only - refer above

Teh turbo is only for the automatic tranmission gt's or manual also?

Finally ...ok i'm 16 and have 1K...now if i ask 2500 people for a dollar maybe i can get it

I wonder if he'll finance.

Man if only I had enough money...wait...i could sell my celi, shit that wont work. Anybody want to give me $3500?

sure, just give me your ip adress and i will do the rest.

Manual Trans...210 est. hp
Auto Trans...170 est. hp

There are no dyno numbers yet either guys. Both those est. are for the stock airbox and stock exhaust. With the bigger intercooler and short ram option you'll definately get more hp.

BUT I'M NOT BUYING A DAMN THING TILL I SEE DYNO'S!!!

*Ahem*
Excuse the n00b question. When you stated that teh DD trubo for the gt/manual transmission is est. 210 hp, does that mean 210 more or 210 all together?

werd, just glad to see this project has finally wrapped up...

i'm 90% sure it's 210 all together

i wish it was 210 added

the final hp numbers to the wheel are estimated at 210 whp for the manual and 170 whp for the automatic...that is all together a 70% increase in power...I just hope the auto #s are higher when they dyno it

YEAH, seriously. I really hope those auto hp numbers go up. Probaby because I have an auto,hehe. But still, is it just me or does that seem like something of a disapointment for 3600??

210 all together? I'm having second thoughts now. I was gonna get a GT because of the gains in I believed was 210 more but now that I know this I'll just go w/the GTS instead.

That's kinda crappy...

with a little work like i/h/e on a GTS, you can probably reach 180-190 whp on a GTS

$4K for a turbo..all the hassles of keeping it tuned..turbo lag...not being able to drive all day with the turbo on...

I wish it put out like 300 WHP...doesn't seem worth the wait to me

Someone start making some more after market performance parts for the Celi!

that is consideably low.. 170 whp on the auto, the GTS stock is like 160 damn that sucks

I'm pretty sure it will be more than that...he said on the nc org thread that they had 230 at the crank and one of the manifold bolts wasn't tightened completely, and he had lots of tuning left to do. He said he expected 40 more hp from the car once he was done. Pretty sure that's what I read anyways.

170 whp isn't really that bad, since the gt only puts down about 124 whp. It's a 50 hp gain, but I'm still looking to see a better # once the dynos are up. And yes, the GTS was 230 to the crank, which is why he said 210 whp..You have to calculate drive train loss man

Yeah i know you have to calculate drivetrain loss...and i thought he said the GT had 230 at the crank and he was looking for about 40 more once he was done tuning.

GT people you hafta buy this I need the GTS one! LOL

Ok as I see it, Direct from the toyota website:

GTS : 180 hp @ 7,600 rpm (130 lb.-ft. @ 6,800 rpm)
GT : 140 hp @ 6,400 rpm (125 lb.-ft. @ 4,200 rpm)

Toyota Celica Specs Page [toyota.com]

now for a 30 HP gain on the GT, $3500 dollors seems kinda steep...What you guys think?

you do realize the supercharger for a gt stick gives you 70 hp?

I thought we were talkin about a turbo here?

ok, its not 140 hp to the wheels stock, but with the turbo, it IS 170 whp. so it more then 30 hp. and thats auto, which has a considerable drivetrain loss.

boosted GT's scare me

GTS' scare ME...but i have a GT auto so...about anything abouve 140hp scares me

David Draper help us deprived GTS people, we need TURBO

It had to be the GT because the turbo wasn't made for the GTS. So if that GT had 230 at the crank and more testing and tuning will be done, I'd say that's pretty good. I hope there's room for much more improvement and better numbers. I guess we just have to wait for the dynos.

hmmm my bike makes over 130, so i would like my car to make at least as much, seeing as it is 1.1 liters larger

sop true ... I know the feeling

I'm glad someone stepped up to the plate to create an awesome kit for the GT.

how much does a supercharger cost for the GT?

There is no Supercharger for the GT. The GTS supercharger (Blitz) should be out in Sept. The 140 hp on the site is to the crank. The GT puts out 124 hp to the wheels. So, 170 for the auto would be a true 50ish hp gain. The manual was said to make possibly 210 whp...BUT THERE NO DYNOS AS OF YET!! If the auto dynos at 170 to the wheel like they think, I'm just going w/ a 50 shot, same affect, much cheaper

Hey guys, yep, it's done, and orders are going on now.

I'd like to clear up some misinformation I keep reading though.

The Celica GT produces 140 hp at the crank, which translates to around 120 hp at the wheels on a manual drivetrain. It's less, like 110 hp at the wheels on an automatic.

A 70% increase is a 70% increase. But, don't say, "It has 140 hp stock, but only 170/80/90 with the turbo. That's a waste of money." 170/80/90 is at the wheels on an automatic, not at the crank on a manual, so be aware there's a big difference.

Basically, I want 240 at the crank. Higher numbers can be attained by those looking to up the boost a bit, and that's fine, but that's on them. Like a stock MR2 Turbo that can do over 400 hp or a stock Supra TT that can do over 900 hp, you get the ability to go higher, but it's not directly out of the box.

Frankly, going higher than 70% above stock on this engine would compromise long-term reliability, so if someone wants to do it, they're going to have to be the ones to do it.

That's all. The kit isn't limited to 240 hp, but I'm not shipping it out any higher. I've seen what happens over time, and unless you do internals, you really don't want it that high.

At any rate, there is a video, albeit it's a little cheesy at the moment.

Video: http://www.trdsource.com/clients/ncorg/turbo/gtturbo1.mpg

Purchasing site: http://www.dasports.net/

Thanks, and feel free to ask any questions (should you have any).

Sincerely,
David

i pm'd ya!

XS Engineering has a $5000 turbo kit for the GTS.

On their website they posted the stock whp and then the bhp with the turbo kit. anyway, using stock bhp, it's a 70 bhp increase.

If you could get a turbo kit for the GTS that would offer similar gains for only $3700, would you be interested?

Daivd since you are now posting on this site, which we highly appreicate ... I remember reading the difference between the Automatic kit and Manual kit is that the automatic one comes with a transmission oil cooler ... would it be benifical to also have the cooler on the manual ???

If so, could we just order the automatic kit as well since everything else stays the same.

So what are the dynos saying, what are the gains from the turbo? What will a larger intercooler and blow-off vlave do?

I remember reading the larger intercooler is pretty pointless because the base one is already rated for 540hp, it just "looks cooler" as David said.

The blow-off valve is for the pppsssssstttttt sound, I don't think it has any other benifit

man i'm sorry but thats way too overpriced, i'd much rather get an turbocharged 240 HP SRT-4 with a stage 1 kit

http://www.mopar.com/perf_srt_turbo.html

can't handle that, and plus it's only $400

i'll take that with and SRT-4, the Price..? under $20k

Real blow-off valves are used in high boost (20+ psi) to prevent the momentary rise in boost pressure of up to 50 psi from blowing out intercooler side tanks or popping off hoses when the throttle is shut. But at normal boost levels (under 18 psi) we can use the rush of over pressure to prevent our turbocharger from stalling all the time when we lift the throttle. This helps the turbo make better throttle response and boost quicker in real world conditions.

Enter the $35 by-pass (or priority valve) concept first developed on the AUDI rally cars and first introduced in the Audi Quattro Turbo and Porsche 944T. The very first Subaru EJ20 in 1989 also had this type valve. Your WRX has one also and we want you to keep it on your motor, unless there comes a reason to change it out.

The compressor by-pass valve is connected from the turbocharger compressor high pressure side (intercooler) back through to the low pressure side (the intake section) just ahead of the turbo compressor. When you close the throttle to shift gears this valve opens. It makes a loop of air back into the inlet with the boost spike of air pressure in the intercooler. Everyone has probably heard a blow-off valve go 'whoosh'. Well, we want that 'whoosh' to go right back to work keeping the turbo compressor wheel from slowing down. Instead of spending money on an aftermarket blow-off valve just to make noise, we leave the factory priority valve in place. Why?

The loop air flow effectively puts the turbocharger into a no load condition and the wheel keeps spinning. Under this very low load condition the high pressure air in the intercooler blows into the intake via the by-pass valve and pin-wheels compressor impeller. When the throttle is opened again, the turbine wheel is still spinning at a relatively high rpm and will go right back to work putting out boost.

Without this by-pass valve feature the compressor/turbine wheels tend to stall between shifts and it takes longer to build up boost again after each shift. This is also true when the throttle is lifted in a corner for any reason. When you get back in to the gas, the by-pass valve actually is slow in closing and lets the turbine free wheel for an eye blink, bringing the boost on much quicker. Why any driver would spend money and give this throttle response advantage in away for the sake of noise of a blow-off valve is almost funny to think about. Yet, many shops will sell you a blow-off valve with a straight face. But, now you know. This is a classic case of, 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

great info street

i think you may be off the subject...

what are the extra shipping costs for areas not in the continental us (ie, honolulu? )

its called AfterMarket Custom Fabricated Turbo noob, the one in the SRT4 is stock DUH!

do whatever you want. this site, everythingcelica.com is set-up for celica enthusiasts. sure you can do whatever you want to that SRT4 but a true enthusiast will do what it takes to make his or her celica perform above the rest.

Hey, I'm kind of pressed for time, but let me toss a few things up here.

Yes, the bigger intercooler is basically just for show, although it will provide a little better cooling at slow speeds on hot days.

The BOV is strictly for the sound. A lot of people have expressed an interest, so they will be happy

As for the shipping costs, go to the site and click on the items like you're going to order, and it will tell you exactly how much shipping is when you put your zip code in.

Please feel free to hit me with any questions at all.

whats your website?

take a look at is post in the middle of the 2nd page

yup i would be very very interested, but not until next yr.

the sound of turbos is almost cooler than the added power

exactly... i'd rather have a turboed 4 banger econobox than a v8 torque monster solely for that reason

NEED A TURBO NOW. HOW MUCH$ AND HORSES

NEVER MIND I HAVE A GTS. XS TURBO? HOW IS IT FOR THE MONEY.

welcome...
please do not type in all caps...
the XS turbo is about 4.5k I think.

blow off values sound badass!

I just have one question. How come you guys didnt take the pictures when there was daylight outside?

Man that is a dumb question Us GTS people are begging for a turbo too!!!!!! I would be one of the first to order one!!!!

Hey, what PSI does the kit boost at?

7psi for daily driving. But the GT can handle up to 10 on occasion.

i still haven't seen any dyno's with the kit installed on a manual gt.

ok ya got a real dyno of this yet, not just numbers, i want to see a graph please

can you still have the CAI intake installed in your car? by the looks of it, it seems like you wont have room for it with all those pipes everywhere.