Celica Forums General Discussion General Fu*king COPS!

I was on my way to work this morning and I was two blocks away and who do I see driving the opposite way but a cop starring right at my as I drive by! I have a GUT feeling hes going to turn around and follow me as I drive up to the red light ahead. So I'm just sitting there looking in my rear view for the fucking pig to drive up behind me... and sure enough here he comes oinking right up behind me. So I roll down my windows because I have 5% tint on my front sides.
Light turns green and he turns his lights on. I pull into a shopping center and he asks me weather I want to either take off the tint or get a ticket for it. He said that fix it tickets are no longer issued and the ticket is 181.00 fine. IS THIS TRUE? BECAUSE HE MADE ME TAKE IT OFF RIGHT THERE ON THE SPOT!!
I didnt get a ticket because I took it off. But I'm soooooooo angry right now I have stock windows in the front

I was late to work too!
I hate cops who dont fucking have anything better to do than be dickless sons of bitches

i also told my boos why i was late was that the right thing to do?

you did what you could...too bad you are in cali or I'd help you fight it...that fucking sucks

So He'd rather You drive around with impaired vision from the glue covered windows?!? thats fucked up right there man.

ims so mad... my car has 5% window tints on all the back windows and none on the front

that suck i was luvky for 5 min ago i drived behind a lady driving 10km/h so when i hittet a 2 way road i drived fast becuase i was pissed, so suddlty a cop turned the ligths on then past me and slowed down and hen just speeded away, i was just like wtf taht is the 5 timein 3 months that a cop ass turned the ligths on behind me and just passed me i tnk it is suppouse to scare or somthing lolz.

= cops suck

well you made it quite obvious for him to ticket you. regardless of what others say they have quotas to make (i believe they call it their "monthly productivity assesment").

5% is a bit dark. i used to have 35% tint and was left alone (i even work next to a police station). but yeah no tints on the front windows is the law. if you had a lighter tint he may have just driven by and if too unsure of himself he could of just kept driving. but at 5%. he knew you had tint. he knew it was against the law. and he knew he coult write you up with no excuses. thankfully he wasn't a dick and gave you a ticket.

lol wtf are they thinking its just to be an ass

actually the film came right off and there was no glue or any kind of residue on my windows

im gonna get them tinted again i fucking hate cops and this stupid gay law here in cali

Its only in GAY FREMONT that enforces it like this... I live in Hayward which is about 15 mins away and I never get hassled for this gay shit ... cops have better things to do than be bitches

cops get nervous if they can't see you...i think that is why they pull people over for such a minor infraction.

the only good thing out of this was that i didnt get a ticket... he walked to the front of my car and I DONT HAVE A FRONT LISCENSE PLATE!!

thank god he just shruged it off and didnt say anything because I have already been fined for that

sorry to say, but if you knew it was illegal and you did it anyways, you should have also been prepared to deal with all the hassles it brings.

I've had mine off several times - but the very same day as the inspection, I have an appointment to put it right back on again.

The tint tickets were $82 and the cost of re tinting was $65... I usually took the ticket and paid the difference as a "convenience fee"

sorry about your troubles though... just be glad you didn't get the RACIST officer pulling you out of your car, laying you flat on the ground and cuffing you - having you lay there on your face for what seems like hours

I knew it was illegal and I thought I was prepared to handle the consequences I guess Im not handling it as well as I thought and I most DEFINATELY WILL put the tint on again!!


I cant believe some cop cuffed you and laid you on the ground!?!? what race was he?

what race are you?

You can't blame the "fucking" cops for enforcing the law. That's what society pays them for.

A nice legal tint will still look good.

let this be a lesson to all you who want to slap some 5% tint on your front windows!!


nah... no worries I will be putting mine back on ASAP

yeah?!?!? why dont they spend more time on enforcing laws like against homocide or auto theft? why do they have go give B.S tickets for B.S. laws

anyway maybe im just mad because generally i dont hate cops but this angered me

Yah, I feel the same way about speeding. But hell, I'm still polite to them & I don't blame them for doing their job.

He didn't have to let you remove it, he could have just issued the ticket & you'd have to pay it & remove the tint too. So he was nice to ya.

I will see what kind of tint I guess

Personally I like a light tint, you aren't stuck in a gloomy car all the time.

^^ i like ur avitar by the way Doo

damn foo!! how shitty man! That hella sucks. Hey foo imma call you later iight

i dont have my phone with me rookie! I left it at home


I will call you up when i get off of work

ok mayne!

That sucks that he made your take it off.
But like everyone says it is illegal.

Yeah we all know its illegal, hah thats the fun part of doing illegal shit Not know whats going to happen lol

nah... i just did it because my car looked so good with it

oh hella yeah dark tint on a celi with the kam kit! vetty sexy!

no worries i plan on getting the tint back on but maybe a lil bit lighter next time

Never heard that one before. I have illegal tint too. I've been meaning to take it off though because it's hard to see out of at night

yeah i will admit it was very hard to see out of my side windows at night ... i saw cars in the background as little lights only

The Word from the UK...

Recent changes in European and UK law have changed which window tints and security films may legally be fitted to motor vehicles.

The original draft of the law does not, in theory, allow us to fit tinted film to glass either o­n the windscreen, or the two windows either side of the driver (forward of the B pillar), as it decreases the level of light transmission below 70%. This was worked around however, as the law didnt specifically state anything about the fitment of after-market films.

Moving forward, this ˜work around was abused, and a number of people fitted low light transmission films to their front windows, the so called privacy or blackout films. The inevitable happened, a report o­n a fatal accident noted that the fitment of an after-market tint to the window, and consequential loss of vision, was contributory to the death of the motorcyclist. This, combined with European directives, leads us to the recent amendment.

This now closes the loophole under which we have been working, and effectively bans tinting windows beyond the 70% light transmission level originally prescribed.

We are now in an interesting position, the statute has been written, but until someone is taken to court and found guilty, the issue is not law. So how do the Police and vehicle inspectorate proceed? Their guidelines recognise the difference between ˜light and ˜dark window tints, but despite much debate o­n the safety the fitment of any film or substance will attract an enforcement policy.

Where such a vehicle is stopped and the window tints applied are such that the Visible Light Transmission level, when measured using an approved device falls to below prescribed levels, the following enforcement guidelines have been agreed with, and recommended, by the Government.
Above 30% Visible Light Transmission (Less Severe Window Tints)
The owner or driver of such a vehicle will be required to have the tinted film removed from the windows under the direction of either a Rectification Notice or a Delayed Prohibition Notice, A period of grace will apply for a limited number of days (normally ten) during which time the vehicle may be driven whilst the rectification work is to be completed. In either case, the vehicle will need to be inspected by either a Police Officer or Vehicle Inspectorate Officer to confirm that the glass has been restored to a compliant condition. Prosecution is unlikely in such circumstances provided the vehicle owner complies fully.
Below 30% Visible Light Transmission (Excessively dark Window Tints)
The owner or driver of such a vehicle may be issued with an Immediate Prohibition Notice and immediately prevented from driving the vehicle o­n public roads until the tints have been removed and either a Police Officer or Vehicle Inspectorate Officer confirms that the glass has been restored to a compliant condition. It is also possible, depending o­n the severity of the offence, that the owner may be prosecuted for driving a vehicle in a non-roadworthy or even a dangerous condition with the potential for Penalty Points and a Fine.
Driving such a vehicle o­n public roads before the tints have been removed and before a Prohibition Notice has been lifted will be a serious offence and the owner or driver is likely to be prosecuted.

haha yea. that really sucks alberto. how much is it gonna cost to retint? and btw doo, theres no legal tint in cali on the front two windows. but they look so ugly untinted.

Yeah, I think if there was a vote for best Avatar, Doo would win.

I'm at the legal limit here in Arizona. I wouldn't want it any darker; I don't even have to adjust my mirror at night.

man that sucks dude. ive been pulled over for my tint here in san leandro, and the cop gave me a fix it ticket. The fine was $110 if i remember correctly. now everywhere i go, i have my windows down unless its late at night or raining outside.

yeah i know what you mean but if your doing somehting illegal be prepared to be dicked around. i just got a ticket and im supposed to go to the smog referre i knew it was going to happen when he put one his gloves and told me to pop my hood lol i though it was funny as hell oh well.

as far as the illegal tint goes. i hate it when i see toyotas and small imports with illegal tint but ferraris and exotic cars can have any window tinted as dark as they want. sucks balls.

I just paid my $1051.00 ticket ($821 ticket, $220 traffic school, $10 processing fee)

Officer said I was doing 50 MPH in a 35 MPH zone at 12:15pm on July 24... and then crossed out everything and wrote 55MPH in a 35 MPH zone at 11:55pm on July 23rd... But wrote "Speed Approx: 53mph" and then crossed that out and wrote "Speed Approx: 52mph"

Yeah... allot of crossing out on his part. The funny thing was is that he didn't want to accept my California Driver's license from June 2002 (exp 2006) because it didn't look like a real picture of me... His quote exactly was, "Do you have another license with a real picture on it, not something from High School". I'm 31 - its been almost 15 years since high school - 1991 to be exact

So I pay the ticket upfront and then go see the judge in mid October and they will refund my $$$.

This is a crazy system - but you gotta play their game if you want to live in USA.

>>> GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT <<<

Everyone charged with a penal offense has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defense.

No one shall be held guilty of any penal offense on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offense, under national or international law, at the time it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offense was committed.

PLAIN LANGAUGE VERSION:
You should be considered innocent until it can be proved that you are guilty. If you are accused of a crime, you should always have the right to defend yourself. Nobody has the right to condemn you and punish you for something you have not done.


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If this was actually true, then why am I being penalized by having to put $1051.00 of my money On-Hold by the COUNTY COURT ("IN GOOD TRUST") until a judge has reviewed the case to show that there were many obviously UNSURE claims by the officer in this case?

The officer's claims were inaccurate and he knew it, this is why he had changed his original report several times before submitting it to me for REQUIRED signature stating that I am to appear in a court of justice to prove my innocence or have handcuffs put on and hauled off in the back of his car to spend the night in jail and to also have my car towed

...for a SIMPLE 15mph over the speed limit at 11:55pm on a Friday night - in which my speedo was clearly displaying UNDER 40mph (yes, I actually got off the freeway 5 exits early because it felt to fast for me (80mph) and the traffic was too tight (like 'rush-hour tight')... don't ask with my car, i drive like a grandma sometimes)

This whole thing is just a big waste of time for everyone...

Sorry for the rant

Summary offence = guilty until you prove yourself innocent.

i remember that story Isaac, it sounded like it suck

oh yeah caligts- i have cops around here that do that shit too, but i take back roads when possible and turn off when possible if i see a cop go by

Did you get a lawyer for this, or did you take care of it yourself?

And I know what you mean about the fine, but they pretty much found you guilty pending an investigation.

Isaac do you have the link to the legality of tint in every state?

how did they find me guilty? the trial hasn't happened yet - I opted for "TRIAL BY DECLARATION", which is stating "NOT GUILTY" and submission of the facts of why I am not guilty...
there was many changes he made to the ticket before he handed it to me to sign

he wrote information down, changed it and wrote different information... in several places

looks like chicken scratch by the time he got through with this simple ticket... and thats why i believe that there was an error in reporting the ticket to the court and the bail amount being $821... ie; inaccurate

either way, I sent them the money they requested to be received BEFORE the trial date...

...and then I went to http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com and bought some Dodger tickets for Tomorrow nights game right behind first base - on the lower levels

i figured that a good Baseball game, a Dodger-Dog, some beer would be exactly what's needed at this point

In criminal proceedings, you are innocent until proven guilty. With ordinance violations, it's a different story.

The best is CCRA or in your country the IRS. They use purposely vague & sweeping laws to ensure you never prove yourself innocent. In the meantime they guaranshee your paycheque in case you don't prove yourself innocent.

isaac, that is so messed up. I can't believe you have to pay first. It almost sounds analagous to posting bail, but that is only used in cases of serious criminal offenses to ensure that the defendant will appear in court. Since you have every right NOT to appear in court, I can't figure out why you would have to pay upfront.

Sorry to hear, but that is what happens when you break the percentage law.

ya livin here in Cali aint all it's cracked up to be, but the cops here in Sactown arnt too bad a about front plates and tint and shit, most of them could care less about shit... too many ppl too little cops for them to have time i guess... whatever it works for me

Shaet, You too?!? I just got off working the holidays (Mon/Tue). In Livermore I was on #2 lane goin 75. with the flow.

On Santa Rita Blvd, I notice a HP entering. drop speed to 70.

I watched him for about a mile to see if he get off the freeway. Nope he didn't instead he was ready to pass me then slowly pulled back.

I ignored him but b4 I know it he turned on his lights.

Rolled down windows and I said "Whats the problem officer"
he said "I pulled you over because you were going 75 back there and the tinted windows"

I argued about the speed limit, and got off that but I was too pissed and tired to argue about my tint.

But this phuckin kid yeah he's young punk got nothing better to do so he picked me. I've pulled over b4 for speeding and none said bout my tinted windows.

If there's anyone in stockton aread with spec blue gts without tint. Bump.

Anyways I was so pissed, I hope a semi truck run him over.

Yeah I know, Infantile! But so what.

I have 35% on the front and limo at the back.

35 is not bad. I have blk interior so it just seem a lot darker tint.