Ok, Sounds like fiction right? Well, I am involved in a company that designs a product that virtually reduces ALL emissions put out by a car or truck. Sounds to good to be true?
Well, it IS true. The unit costs 1000 USD. Not only does it reduce emissions significantly but it hads about 25% MORE TORQUE! There is a 60 day money back guarantee. If you don't like it, or you can't feel any power difference, we will give you 100% of your money back.
Now, I have mentioned reducing emissions and 25% more torque right? Well, not only does it do all that, but it INCREASES fuel economy!
This unit is absolutly perfect for you Californians. We tested this unit on a 1992 Chevy V8 pickup and it added 17hp and 49 torque to the WHEELS! Furthermore, we tested emissions with the catalytic converter on and the tested it without the catalytic converter. There was almost ZERO change in emissions. The truck was still totally street legal (other than sound lol) without the CATALYTIC CONVERTER.
Now, the normal price of these units is $1250. Because I love Ecelica so much I am selling them for $1000.
I will post pics of the unit and what not soon! Give me some feedback. For those of you in Cali that want a turbo and can't have it because you won't pass emissions...THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED!
Thanks for reading. Oh and SLIDR, this isn't rice math...
lol, if you dont mind me asking, what is this MAGIC part, and if you get a non-carb aproved turbo, it still will not pass the visual inspection of the smog test, saying that you can find a carb legal turbo, having one does not put out more emissions, what they look for is more carbon monoixede and some other form of carbon + oxegen possiblely + one hydrogen atom(dont remeber), and turbos do not make your engine produce more of these chemicals, as long as you get the same burn in the cyclender.
Whats the company? I would be interested in this but I am skeptical. Celicas could always use more torque though. I was just talking to my girlfriend about emissions. Over 60,000 people in the US alone die from heart and lung diseases related to air pollution. This sounds like a fake ebay product but if it is legit then post pics and details on how it works. O and tell us some horsepower and torque numbers we could expect on a 4 cylinder vs. that 8-cylinder. If this is legit I would support it and buy it
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omg people, think about it, it is one of the "magic" products, there is a reason why #1 he didnt mention what the acutal product was, #2 who made it, #3 anything that we could find information on, if your mods are not carb approved, it cannot be passed in california, the only way to really make more torque would be f/i or lowering the transmission ratios, and how could that give you better milage(it would make it worse) and you have to have a catitlic converter no matter what state your in(that has smog checks hehe) without it your car is illegal...sigh people dont fall for this bs.
omg people, think about it, it is one of the "magic" products, there is a reason why #1 he didnt mention what the acutal product was, #2 who made it, #3 anything that we could find information on, if your mods are not carb approved, it cannot be passed in california, the only way to really make more torque would be f/i or lowering the transmission ratios, and how could that give you better milage(it would make it worse) and you have to have a catitlic converter no matter what state your in(that has smog checks hehe) without it your car is illegal...sigh people dont fall for this bs.
Well, you won't find any info anywhere...but from me. The product has not gone through all the "legal" stuff yet. We still have to set up a disclosure statement.
I posted becasue I wanted feedback... I am frankily disapointed with what I got in return.
Elec-Fuyu I will keep your comment in mind when others want to order.
The product is called the Hydrogen 1000. There is no info on the web because we don't have a Website yet. We hold the patent, and we are the only company (The founders of the product) licensed to sell it.
Basically, it is a chemical reaction. I wont go into depth quite yet, but it simply injects Hydrogen into the intake system. Becasue Hydrogen burns extrememly fast, and with much force, it drives the piston down harder in the chamber. You save fuel because this system increases the fuel burn in the chamber. Furthermore, Hydrogen burns MUCH cooler than a strait gasoline or diesel fuel burn. It burns WAY cooler than NOS, so it is much safer to use.
As for emissions, what comes out of your exhaust is almost all h20. Yes, that is right, water.
Remember what you said Elec-fuyu...
Oh, and BTW. I will be installing the system on my car within a month. I will have DYNO results before and after at that point. For the skeptics... I am not trying to rip you off. I just find it frustrating that you think I am trying to do so. Did I even ask for your money? Does it not say money back guarantee? This is what I get for trying to HELP PEOPLE! You guys are always complaining about how you can't mod your cars because of CARB. And then, something comes around that PROMISES do let you do just that...and you bitch about it.
This system will not be available to purchase until the Disclosure Statement is prepared. All I wanted with feed back and instead I got a bunch of skeptics that have to bash everything I post on this site. Grow Up.
Sounds interesting. Would like to see pics of it installed on a celica, and dynos would help. I don't think people are calling BS off the starting line we just want some facts, specs & dynos to back up any product. Hydrogen is quite a dangerous gas if I'm not mistaken.
You are not mistaken robare. I'm assuming this system will be very similar to NOS with a tank of H and everything...and you trigger when you want it. The thing is..just like NOS...It's very very volatile. I don't know if it would be worth it unless you race a lot. If i would spend $1000 on performance mods, i would want something that i could feel every day...every time i hit that pedal...not just whenever i feel like flicking a switch and using up a tank that i would have to refill. And how much would it cost to refill the H tank?
Introducing hydrogen into the combustion process would only produce MORE emissions, since less O2 gets in to the combustion chamber, not all the fuel will be burnt, you will be running richer, which would explain the added power on that V8, but witout actual results showing before and after (on an actual emissions test) I wouldn't believe the emissions would be lower, unless of course you run the car off hydrogen only, no gasoline involved.
Mazda recently built an RX-7 prototype car that runs off of hydrogen, making almost zero emissions, apparently the rotary engine can easily be adapted to run off hydrogen.
However, Hydrogen injection sounds a bit funny to me, I mean, with N20, you get the added O2 to aid combustion, but with hydrogen, all you are doing is introducing more fuel, does raising your fuel pressure and increasing injector flow lower emissions? I don't think so.
Hydrogen will also LOWER the octane of the fuel, since it ignites easier than gas. In a 2ZZ this could blow up the engine, or at the very least make it knock like crazy.
Yes Hydrogen burns clean, but zero emissions is useless if the engine has problems running on it. to get something like this to work would require ECU programming at the very least, serious internal mods may be needed on the 2ZZ (I'd definitely require lower compression before attempting this with my car)
omg people, think about it, it is one of the "magic" products, there is a reason why #1 he didnt mention what the acutal product was, #2 who made it, #3 anything that we could find information on, if your mods are not carb approved, it cannot be passed in california, the only way to really make more torque would be f/i or lowering the transmission ratios, and how could that give you better milage(it would make it worse) and you have to have a catitlic converter no matter what state your in(that has smog checks hehe) without it your car is illegal...sigh people dont fall for this bs.
This isn't calling BS!?
He says at the end "sigh people dont fall for this bs."
Introducing hydrogen into the combustion process would only produce MORE emissions, since less O2 gets in to the combustion chamber, not all the fuel will be burnt, you will be running richer, which would explain the added power on that V8, but witout actual results showing before and after (on an actual emissions test) I wouldn't believe the emissions would be lower, unless of course you run the car off hydrogen only, no gasoline involved.
Mazda recently built an RX-7 prototype car that runs off of hydrogen, making almost zero emissions, apparently the rotary engine can easily be adapted to run off hydrogen.
However, Hydrogen injection sounds a bit funny to me, I mean, with N20, you get the added O2 to aid combustion, but with hydrogen, all you are doing is introducing more fuel, does raising your fuel pressure and increasing injector flow lower emissions? I don't think so.
Hydrogen will also LOWER the octane of the fuel, since it ignites easier than gas. In a 2ZZ this could blow up the engine, or at the very least make it knock like crazy.
Yes Hydrogen burns clean, but zero emissions is useless if the engine has problems running on it. to get something like this to work would require ECU programming at the very least, serious internal mods may be needed on the 2ZZ (I'd definitely require lower compression before attempting this with my car)
Thanks but no thanks...
You are wrong. I will prove it. With a video if I have too when we are doing the emissions testing.
You are not mistaken robare. I'm assuming this system will be very similar to NOS with a tank of H and everything...and you trigger when you want it. The thing is..just like NOS...It's very very volatile. I don't know if it would be worth it unless you race a lot. If i would spend $1000 on performance mods, i would want something that i could feel every day...every time i hit that pedal...not just whenever i feel like flicking a switch and using up a tank that i would have to refill. And how much would it cost to refill the H tank?
It is on ALL THE TIME! You push the pedal and you go. The fluid for the chemical reaction lasts for about a month and costs 3.50 a gallon. (3 gallon lasts about 1 month) As I said, it is a chemical reaction... Currently, we are using this system primarily on Semi trucks. It makes a HUGE difference on the Semi's. We just recently installed one on a friend of mines truck. He says that he can climb hills he never could before without shifting down. Furthermore, he went from 5.5 mpg to 8.9 immediatley! His imissions were down 75% immediately!
you come-on... Like I said, I have reasons to be skeptical, all you can say is "you are wrong"
Go ahead, post your video. Maybe it will back up your idea, but then again, if you were "SERIOUS" about this project of yours, I wouldn't be talking about it so much as working quietly behind closed doors until it was ready to go to market.
you come-on... Like I said, I have reasons to be skeptical, all you can say is "you are wrong"
Go ahead, post your video. Maybe it will back up your idea, but then again, if you were "SERIOUS" about this project of yours, I wouldn't be talking about it so much as working quietly behind closed doors until it was ready to go to market.
IT IS ALREADY ON THE MARKET FOR SEMI-TRUCKS! We hold the only patent! Why stay behind closed doors? The fact of it is, we will be meeting with the emissions board of California very soon (We have not yet set a date). You know what, go ahead and wait until that happens. Frankily, I don't really care. When it is marketed at a National Level and it is on the shelf in stores for $1,250 then maybe you will believe... All I wanted to do was extend a friendly discount to my favorite web site ever...
So what can we agree on if my torque does not raise 25%?? Get my money back double?
I have no idea what that is...but it does not resemble our system at all... looks like some kind of injection... Don't have any idea what though?
Ok, this is different...they are using some kind of fluid. We use Hydrogen Gas.
"Car manufacturers would have us believe that their machines are gloriously efficient. Theyre not. Less than 30% of the energy from petrol goes to drive the wheels of your car the rest goes to waste, as heat around your engine, the radiator and as un-burnt fuel in your exhaust.
Catalytic converters were introduced in the mid-80s to convert harmful emissions like Carbon Monoxide into Carbon Dioxide, but while they solve some environmental problems, they dont solve any energy problems. Youre still wasting petrol.
The C-tech3000 catalyst injection system uses the same principle as catalytic converters the remarkable oxidation properties of platinum but at the beginning of the energy process, rather than at the end of it.
The system joins the air intake channel in your engine via a simple connector. The vacuum which draws air into your engine also draws air through the catalyst solution, producing tiny bubbles which explode as a catalytic spray as they enter the combustion chamber. Here they interact with the hydrocarbons in your petrol to convert as much fuel as possible into useful energy.
There have been many previous attempts to produce this effect, like catalytic fuel additives and petrol tank linings. Theyve failed because they didnt introduce the catalyst in the right form, in the right amounts, in the right place and at the right time in the combustion process. As leading scientists, motoring journalists and thousands of customers agree, the C-tech system has finally cracked this problem, with consistently remarkable results."
Yes, you would get your money back, but not double.
However, I am no longer offering this to Ecelica. I just wanted to give you guys a good deal. No offense, but you guys can wait will it hits a retail center in your area.
Hydrogen will also LOWER the octane of the fuel, since it ignites easier than gas. In a 2ZZ this could blow up the engine, or at the very least make it knock like crazy.
Yes Hydrogen burns clean, but zero emissions is useless if the engine has problems running on it. to get something like this to work would require ECU programming at the very least, serious internal mods may be needed on the 2ZZ (I'd definitely require lower compression before attempting this with my car)
Hydrogen system you describe: $1000
Quality, fool-proof wet nitrous system: $500
Thanks but no thanks...
You are mistaken on multiple levels. One, because the hydrogen ignites easier than gas it would RAISE the octane level. FACT: Higher octane gasoline burns faster than low octane gasoline. Two, Diesel engines which are used to power SemiTrucks are EXTREMELY HIGH COMPRESSION! We use this system primarily on diesel trucks. In fact, diesel engines are higher compression than gasoline engines..( I am sure there are some exceptions).
Dont close the offer. Sum plp here just jump the gun WAY too fast and dont understand the complete process (ignoance id say). Im sure there are plp who are waiting fot more word on this board about the product. Id be interested but I have no money to spend so I wont be able to get it for a while. Id like to hear and see more . And for the rest of you who attack this guy for just INTRODUCING sumthin to use, shame on you . He was being nice and wasnt asking for any orders til he got ALL the info bout it out.
Dont close the offer. Sum plp here just jump the gun WAY too fast and dont understand the complete process (ignoance id say). Im sure there are plp who are waiting fot more word on this board about the product. Id be interested but I have no money to spend so I wont be able to get it for a while. Id like to hear and see more . And for the rest of you word attack this guy for just INTRODUCING sumthin to use, shame on you . He was being nice and wasnt asking for any orders til he got ALL the info bout it out.
Thankyou! At least one person understands what I am trying to do! I really don't care if you order or not. I AM NOT EVEN ASKING FOR ORDERS! For God sakes! I opened this to ANSWER Questions! I will provide ALL info before ANY order is made. Furthermore, I would personally like to test the system on MY celica. I would honestly feel HORRIBLE if this system blew up anyones engine. JUST LET ME HELP YOU YOU DUMB BASTARDS!
Dude..don't take it so seriously. The automobile has operated much the same in the past half-century. You pop up claiming a miracle solution and most people are skeptical. Remember what happened when that dude claimed the world wasn't flat? They killed him or some shit.
Come back in a few months with pictures, dyno sheets, facts, videos and a hella lot more info and "maybe" people won't jump all over ya.
the HIGHER the octane level of a given fuel, the MORE DIFFICULT it is to ignite.
Making the fuel "ignite better" in my 2ZZ would make it knock like crazy, because running on 93, it's just stable enough to keep those spark plugs from becoming glow plugs once the engine heats up... So now, you want to add a gaseous fuel source, like hydrogen, to this delicate process... you sir have no clue what you are talking about.
Okay, you make these for diesels, right? what engine applications are available? My buddy's a diesel mechanic; I'll ask HIM if he's ever heard of you're hydrogen injection system.
Dude..don't take it so seriously. The automobile has operated much the same in the past half-century. You pop up claiming a miracle solution and most people are skeptical. Remember what happened when that dude claimed the world wasn't flat? They killed him or some shit.
Come back in a few months with pictures, dyno sheets, facts, videos and a hella lot more info and "maybe" people won't jump all over ya.
I plan too. As I have posted! However, I have to wait for our project car to get back from the paint shop. It is a 1995 eclipse N/A. You can chirp the tires at 3500 rpms in that thing now! We just have way to many haters on this site. I admit, I got way to defensive... but give me a chance! It's like I have a cure for cancer, but no one wants to try it because it sounds impossible. This isn't going to happen overnite! I am just sick of people on this site just waiting for something like this to get posted on the Forum so they can bash it and call BS when I haven't even had a chance to prove it!
All I am asking is that before you call BS let me put it on MY CELICA, let me test it for about a month. I will drive the hell out of it, document everything, dyno it, and show you guys the results. What you need to realize, is that this really does work...and it will be HUGE when it hits the market. Let me prove it to you!
the HIGHER the octane level of a given fuel, the MORE DIFFICULT it is to ignite.
Making the fuel "ignite better" in my 2ZZ would make it knock like crazy, because running on 93, it's just stable enough to keep those spark plugs from becoming glow plugs once the engine heats up... So now, you want to add a gaseous fuel source, like hydrogen, to this delicate process... you sir have no clue what you are talking about.
Okay, you make these for diesels, right? what engine applications are available? My buddy's a diesel mechanic; I'll ask HIM if he's ever heard of you're hydrogen injection system.
My guess is that you'll just spew more 3rd grade
Actually, you are correct. I was mistaken. What you need to realize is, I am NOT an engineer. I did not design the product and I am still learning more about it everyday. Your buddy will have probably heard of Propane injection. Same kind of concept, but propane burns too hot. It did add quite a bit of HP but it Blew a lot of engines. Hydrogen works the same way, but instead burns much cooler, and under pressure. Hydrogen will not ignite unless under pressure. I had my octane knowledge backwards and I apologize. I will have one guy who has a lot more knowledge of the system answer some of your questions. Please post away! I will try to get to all of them! Please post MORE constructive critisism. I appreciate that. Those who cannot do so...please don't bother posting.
your comments attract many skeptics since there is no one but yourself to debate these findings...
best of luck in your newest projects
I have plenty of SemiTruck drivers testimonials. However, because we have only put this system on ONE gasoline powered car (The Eclipse) I only have one that would be realitive to our cars.
I honestly hope it works for you... serously. But I wouln't try this if they paid me.
If it works for you, all the better, but it sounds shady to me. I just hope you don't let your car get turned into a guinea pig, only to see it get royally screwed up by some diesel technology gone wrong.
It's all good that you're trying to spread the good news about this thing, but seriously, you're counting chickens before they're hatched.
I can see the bit about lowering temps, but then again, pre existing techniques also exist for this, like water and alcohol injection, or CO2 cooled fuel rails. If you have a GT, I don't forsee a big problem, but I don't know about the 2ZZ.
Also, keep in mind, Deisels are a LOT heavier and stronger than our engines, our engines are lightweight, aluminum rev happy 4-cyls, while Diesels are Iron and Steel monstrosities that can be abused to no end, and are known for running over one-million miles in their service life.
I seriously wish you luck, and I hope it all works out okay; I woudn't expect much though. I just don't want to see you get screwed on a "Freebie"
Finally we got sum plp to start postin PROPER comments. Lets see, what could I want to know??...Oh!! *Where are these places that can fill up the tanks with hydorgen? *How is it installed on the car? *How big is the entire system? *How long has this porduct been in development?
Finally we got sum plp to start postin PROPER comments. Lets see, what could I want to know??...Oh!! *Where are these places that can fill up the tanks with hydorgen? *How is it installed on the car? *How big is the entire system? *How long has this porduct been in development?
1. It is a fluid solution. I am sure it can be mailed to you no problem because without electricity there is no chance of an explosion. 2. It is installed by running a wire off of your Positive battery terminal and then running that to the system. The whole reaction happens because of a power current. Then all one does is run a hose straight to the intake or intake manifold of the vehicle. Very simple installation. MUCH safer than NOS no matter what anyone says! It is also recomended that one uses a High power battery like an Optima Yellow Top. 3. The system weighs about 40 lbs. About the size of an optima battery. This is the only down side... weight. 4. It has been in development for about 2 years ( I will check on that). As I said before, it was primarily tested on diesel SemiTrucks.
I honestly hope it works for you... serously. But I wouln't try this if they paid me.
If it works for you, all the better, but it sounds shady to me. I just hope you don't let your car get turned into a guinea pig, only to see it get royally screwed up by some diesel technology gone wrong.
It's all good that you're trying to spread the good news about this thing, but seriously, you're counting chickens before they're hatched.
I can see the bit about lowering temps, but then again, pre existing techniques also exist for this, like water and alcohol injection, or CO2 cooled fuel rails. If you have a GT, I don't forsee a big problem, but I don't know about the 2ZZ.
Also, keep in mind, Deisels are a LOT heavier and stronger than our engines, our engines are lightweight, aluminum rev happy 4-cyls, while Diesels are Iron and Steel monstrosities that can be abused to no end, and are known for running over one-million miles in their service life.
I seriously wish you luck, and I hope it all works out okay; I woudn't expect much though. I just don't want to see you get screwed on a "Freebie"
I truly appreciate your concern! I would hate if I blew my engine! It is my only car. However, I have som much faith in this product that I am willing to try it. Scratch that, I WANT to try it! Everyone knows that low end torque is the Celicas real problem. If this system can fix it YAY!
Back on the octane bandwagon. About NOS. Isn't NOS more volitile than gasoline? PLEASE correct me if I am wrong. Many users are running NOS on Celica GTS with no problem. This runs MUCH cooler than NOS, has the same effect, but is a much smaller constant "shot." You can run it constantly because it burns at such a low temp.
Introducing hydrogen into the combustion process would only produce MORE emissions, since less O2 gets in to the combustion chamber, not all the fuel will be burnt, you will be running richer, which would explain the added power on that V8, but witout actual results showing before and after (on an actual emissions test) I wouldn't believe the emissions would be lower, unless of course you run the car off hydrogen only, no gasoline involved.
Ok, I just got an answer as to why the emmisions were reduced so significantly. The Burn is so complete with the Hydrogen system running that it burns up all the Hydro-Carbons that would normally be released after the burn. I have a guy comming over that should be able to elaborate more.
Your car ABSOLUTELY MUST HAVE a catalytic converter in California to be street legal. You cannot legally remove any part of the emissions sytstem of a car in CA for any reason. Even if the car ran cleaner with this "hydrogen system" and no cat, the law would still require you to have it installed.
And it won't be legal in California until it's CARB approved, which costs big bucks and takes forever.
Your car ABSOLUTELY MUST HAVE a catalytic converter in California to be street legal. You cannot legally remove any part of the emissions sytstem of a car in CA for any reason. Even if the car ran cleaner with this "hydrogen system" and no cat, the law would still require you to have it installed.
And it won't be legal in California until it's CARB approved, which costs big bucks and takes forever.
Well, I did not know that...but keep a cat on there then!
Ok, I have Emissions testing from a 2003 Chevy V8. I will get it posted ASAP. However, i am trying to get my scanner to work. I tried taking pictures...but you can't read it. Emissions show ZERO on one test. Then, on the other test they show the Hydro Carbons going from a reading of 279 to 32!
I thought I had Dynos...but after looking at them again I realized I photo copied the wrong ones! I will work on getting them tomarrow.
Dont mind what people said. You have to understand that we have heard all of these mods that add so much power but then we find out they dont work or that they would cause a problem. It sounds like to me that the main concern would be the reliability of a product like this. Get those dynos for us and dont sweat some of the stuff said.
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This standard ideal combustion. Only if the system was 100% efficient. Unfortunately, car engines are not 100%. Some carbons and Hydrogens don't react completely, giving you CO (carbon monoxide) and hydrocarbons, which pollute the environment. Passing emissions depends on the air to fuel ratio. If you have more fuel than air, you get less performance from your engine, but you run your carbs richer, meaning you get less CO, C02, and hydrocarbons you're tested for. But if you have more air than fuel, you get higher performance, but you run more lean, meaning you'll get more CO and hydrocarbon pollutants. Sometimes more air screws your emissions, which explains why intakes have CARB stickers, to show that they're safe for the environment. This also explains why turbochargers fail emissions consistantly.
If this miracle device actually works, fuel efficiency will go up because of less pollutants (reaction more complete), which should give you even more power because theres less sideproduct. Mike, I wish you the best of luck with this device and as soon as you have the evidence, we'll be celebrating with you.
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Well I guess i'm a little impressed by the info so far. I'm glad it's not just an injection system like my first skepticism.
One guy posted that you were counting your chickens before they're hatched...and that i agree to. I realize that if i were in your shoes i might as well. But i just wouldn't go saying you'll offer it to Ecelica for 250 under retail before it is even tested on a celica. I do really hope that this works for you though...and i hope it is safe, reliable, etc. Something really needs to be done in our country as far as alternate fuels or systems to help gas mileage or we'll all be screwed before we know it. Best of luck...and keep us posted with pics and dynos asap!
To me it sounds like that dude's prepetual energy machine that can power a whole house for a year with a dozen little square batteries or maybe an Amway pitch.
Well I guess i'm a little impressed by the info so far. I'm glad it's not just an injection system like my first skepticism.
One guy posted that you were counting your chickens before they're hatched...and that i agree to. I realize that if i were in your shoes i might as well. But i just wouldn't go saying you'll offer it to Ecelica for 250 under retail before it is even tested on a celica. I do really hope that this works for you though...and i hope it is safe, reliable, etc. Something really needs to be done in our country as far as alternate fuels or systems to help gas mileage or we'll all be screwed before we know it. Best of luck...and keep us posted with pics and dynos asap!
I am absolutely positive that this system works. I wouldn't bring it to the boards if I thought otherwise. I know for a FACT that it should have no problem whatsoever working on a GT. That being said, there are some skeptics about the GTS with it's higher compression ratio. To put all of this to a rest I am going to put one on my car and personally test it.
BTW I really appreciate some of the comments people have made. This really is going to be incredible. Once again, I will post Emission tests ASAP! I thought I had the dynos...but I accidently grabbed the wrong one. Thanks for the support!
sounds intresting if it actually doesn't blow up your celica. you should send a Hydro kit, (snicker) to the owner of the website, and let him play with one.
i do suppose this is going to come with engine management?
sounds intresting if it actually doesn't blow up your celica. you should send a Hydro kit, (snicker) to the owner of the website, and let him play with one.
NO THANK YOU!!! - there was mighty good reason that just last week I just had $1,200+ worth of work done on my 2001 Celica to fully replace the emissions system (o2 sensors, cat, piping.. etc). and I wouldn't dare mess with anything that could land me in massive fines-ville for bypassing/removing the CAT... we all know how extremely strict California is about that
...especially with the rash of random "pop your hood" checks the police are doing here in SoCal (a few people are being hit by this harassment, two and three times each week )
Catalytic Converter: A motor vehicle pollution control device designed to reduce emissions such as oxides of nitrogen, hydrocarbons, and carbon monoxide. Catalytic converters have been required equipment on all new motor vehicles sold in California since 1979.
It's not just your imagination... Your day really does go by twice as fast while on EverythingCelica.com
sounds intresting if it actually doesn't blow up your celica. you should send a Hydro kit, (snicker) to the owner of the website, and let him play with one.
NO THANK YOU!!! - there was mighty good reason that just last week I just had $1,200+ worth of work done on my 2001 Celica to fully replace the emissions system (o2 sensors, cat, piping.. etc). and I wouldn't dare mess with anything that could land me in massive fines-ville for bypassing/removing the CAT... we all know how extremely strict California is about that
...especially with the rash of random "pop your hood" checks the police are doing here in SoCal (a few people are being hit by this harassment, two and three times each week )
Catalytic Converter: A motor vehicle pollution control device designed to reduce emissions such as oxides of nitrogen, hydrocarbons, and carbon monoxide. Catalytic converters have been required equipment on all new motor vehicles sold in California since 1979.
Ok, If you are running ZERO emissions without a CAT on that is great. What would be the difference if you were running the system, had a catlaytic converter with all the junk knocked out of it, and it was just for show? I will tell you what the difference would be...MORE POWER because of more flow. All C.A.R.B. is gonna do is look and see if you have a CAT. They are not going to unbolt your pipe and see if there is anything actually in it! Once your vehicle passes the test running almost completely free of hydrocarbons I coubt they will give it a second thought.
Rocketman - I'm glad you feel so strongly about your latest projects... but I'm sure that CARB also feels strongly about penalizing others for messing with the law - no matter how legal you might think it is.
I have no clue how it is where you live - but here in SoCal if you drive a vehicle with any sort of body modifications, you are making yourself a target and will most likely be stereotyped in the same category as those who actually do commit reckless driving crimes... AND will be treated by the police as such.
I don't need to deal with additional BS - a percentage of police here are already biast such a large percentage that they make the good cops also look bad
Your projects may be good for Idaho residents - but as far as this California resident is concerned, its just one more red-flag that I would have to sweat each time I see a cop on the road... i personally don't need the extra stress
In California, everyone is guilty until they can prove otherwise
Ok, If you are running ZERO emissions without a CAT on that is great. What would be the difference if you were running the system, had a catlaytic converter with all the junk knocked out of it, and it was just for show? I will tell you what the difference would be...MORE POWER because of more flow. All C.A.R.B. is gonna do is look and see if you have a CAT. They are not going to unbolt your pipe and see if there is anything actually in it! Once your vehicle passes the test running almost completely free of hydrocarbons I coubt they will give it a second thought.
Didn't you read my post? No vehicle will give you zero emissions! Its just not efficient enough, the problem of every combustion reaction. Its like trying to reach absolute zero temperature. You certainly cannot do it without a catalytic converter. Root word cataly, like catalyst, speeds up reactions, lowers activation energy of the reaction, and helps combustion go to completion (no side products, C02 and H20 only)
If they tested your vehicle, CARB could tell if you did something to it or not, based upon average emissions for each stock vehicle.
Study up on your chemistry, bro! It explains quite a bit.
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I live in Louisiana, so I dont have any real prob with cops. You only get pulled over here if ur speedin, too loud, or other common ofences. Ive not heard of anyone gettin pulled over for lookin like a street racing maniac.
Ok, If you are running ZERO emissions without a CAT on that is great. What would be the difference if you were running the system, had a catlaytic converter with all the junk knocked out of it, and it was just for show? I will tell you what the difference would be...MORE POWER because of more flow. All C.A.R.B. is gonna do is look and see if you have a CAT. They are not going to unbolt your pipe and see if there is anything actually in it! Once your vehicle passes the test running almost completely free of hydrocarbons I coubt they will give it a second thought.
Didn't you read my post? No vehicle will give you zero emissions! Its just not efficient enough, the problem of every combustion reaction. Its like trying to reach absolute zero temperature. You certainly cannot do it without a catalytic converter. Root word cataly, like catalyst, speeds up reactions, lowers activation energy of the reaction, and helps combustion go to completion (no side products, C02 and H20 only)
If they tested your vehicle, CARB could tell if you did something to it or not, based upon average emissions for each stock vehicle.
Study up on your chemistry, bro! It explains quite a bit.
Ok, the reason I posted Zero was becasue one of our emissions readouts actually read ZERO. Beleive it or not it did. I will post it as soon as I CAN FIGURE OUT THIS SCANNER!
Of course this doesn't mean that every car or ever emissions test will read Zero. However, my point is that the emissions are reduced SO significantly that you could remove your Catalytic converter, or just keep it on and mod your car more than you could before.
I understand if you don't want to try one Isaac and that is OK! I am not trying to push this on anyone. Once you see what it can do it will practically sell itself. But that is the point. YOU decide.
Add New Hardware. Let windows detect plug and play device. Have installation CD in CD tray. Windows should basically run you through installation of scanner. Put paper in scanner. Use the software you got with scanner to scan paper. it can't be that hard can it
Good luck with it all...I personally try not to jump to conclusions and to give everyone a chance. I'm a patient person and I would really like to see the results of your R&D in a few months. I'll tell you that if you come up with some good results and get some reputable people to try it and back you up, I'll get one. I already planning on lowering the compression in my GTS for a turbo system anyway so I'm not worried. Good luck and keep us informed.
Add New Hardware. Let windows detect plug and play device. Have installation CD in CD tray. Windows should basically run you through installation of scanner. Put paper in scanner. Use the software you got with scanner to scan paper. it can't be that hard can it
Hey, Maybe you can help! I have a Artec e+48 U scanner. Windows won't install it without a driver. Because I couldn't find my driver disk I tried downloading the drivers. I installed them, but whenever I try to scan it reads..."cannot operate!"
Then it says that if failed to start the "twain Driver" "TWAIN ERROR" Please Help!
Back on the octane bandwagon. About NOS. Isn't NOS more volitile than gasoline? PLEASE correct me if I am wrong. Many users are running NOS on Celica GTS with no problem. This runs MUCH cooler than NOS, has the same effect, but is a much smaller constant "shot." You can run it constantly because it burns at such a low temp.
Actually, Nitrous oxide is an oxidizer, it is not a fuel source so much as something that makes things work more efficiently in the combustion process.
Normally, someone who runs forced induction of some type will be dumping extra fuel into the engine, to make use of that extra air being forced down the intake.
With nitrous oxide, you introduce the oxidizer (N2O) along with added fuel instead.
Nitrous in and of itself is not flamable, but if you mix in the needed fuel, it will go up, and it will burn eficciently. it also supplies the needed oxygen, which is what turbos and superchargers do as well.
Upon ignition, the heat from the small explosion in the cylinder forces the Nitrous Oxide to seperate into it's base molecules, Oxygen and nitrogen. The resulting burn is very efficient.
This is why most people don't understand running N2O is safe, as it will only work when fuel is enriched, and the nirous mixes with the fuel charge and is ignited.
BTW, Worked with N2O, Nitrogen, CO2 and Helium gas before, but don't know the going rate on hydrogen (never had a need for it). Would welding shops carry it? After all, not many Hydrogen fueling stations are around as of yet.
Back on the octane bandwagon. About NOS. Isn't NOS more volitile than gasoline? PLEASE correct me if I am wrong. Many users are running NOS on Celica GTS with no problem. This runs MUCH cooler than NOS, has the same effect, but is a much smaller constant "shot." You can run it constantly because it burns at such a low temp.
Actually, Nitrous oxide is an oxidizer, it is not a fuel source so much as something that makes things work more efficiently in the combustion process.
Normally, someone who runs forced induction of some type will be dumping extra fuel into the engine, to make use of that extra air being forced down the intake.
With nitrous oxide, you introduce the oxidizer (N2O) along with added fuel instead.
Nitrous in and of itself is not flamable, but if you mix in the needed fuel, it will go up, and it will burn eficciently. it also supplies the needed oxygen, which is what turbos and superchargers do as well.
Upon ignition, the heat from the small explosion in the cylinder forces the Nitrous Oxide to seperate into it's base molecules, Oxygen and nitrogen. The resulting burn is very efficient.
This is why most people don't understand running N2O is safe, as it will only work when fuel is enriched, and the nirous mixes with the fuel charge and is ignited.
BTW, Worked with N2O, Nitrogen, CO2 and Helium gas before, but don't know the going rate on hydrogen (never had a need for it). Would welding shops carry it? After all, not many Hydrogen fueling stations are around as of yet.
We don't sell Hydrogen in it's gas form. Our chemical solution creates it! That is why it can last for a month or two at a time! If we sold just plain Hydrogen in a canister under pressure it would be extrememly explosive! NOT GOOD!
I know NOS is an oxidizer. Correct me if I am wrong, but it just increases the ammount of Oxygen in a burn? And yes, people do use secondary fuel injection if they are using a HUGE shot of NOS. You wouldn't want to run to lean and eat a hole right through your piston! Our Hydrogen system really works VERY similar to Nitrous Oxide. NOS increases the speed, temperature, and efficiency of the burn to produce much more HP.
The Hydrogen 1000 unit is a much smaller shot then NOS. Because it is actually connected to a hose that mounts right on your intake the suction from the engine actually pulls the Hydrogen into the combustion chamber. You get more Hydrogen the more you push the pedal down. If you are just driving normal you get very little. There is no need for secondary fuel injection or larger injectors with this system. Furthermore, everyone knows how HOT NOS burns! After all, more oxygen in the mix always makes fire burn hotter. The Hydrogen system burns COOL (in temp )
Here is something I found off of a Website explaining NOS.
"Enough of the history and development. Let get down to the nitty gritty. Nitrous oxide is a non-flamable gas. It's molecular structure consists of two parts nitrogen and one part oxygen. Nitrogen is an inert gas that makes up a large percentage of the air we breath. Oxygen is a very unstable and very flammable gas. The two nitrogen molecules bond with the oxygen and makes a very stable gas. In order qualify that statement, let me add that it is stable at room temperature and normal atmospheric pressure. While in a combustion chamber, pressure may be up to 200psi or more with temperatures in the area of 500 to 800 degress Celsius. At this pressure and temperature, the molecular structure of nitrous oxide breaks down. This introduces raw oxygen into the combustion chamber.
Because our sytem burns cool there is no need for more fuel in the chamber!
OK, I will have TWO different emissions tests posted TODAY! I haven't figured out my scanner, but I am going to use a friends! They dhould both be up by 4:00 Mountain Time. Thanks for your support and patience!
1st Emissions test shows a reading of 279 Hydrocarbons with a tolerance of 220. Second test, while using the system, shows 32 hydrocarbons!!!!! Both have the same tolerance and were tested on the same vehicle 4 days apart. The Mitsubishi Eclipse that we have outfitted with the Hydrogen 1000 has a switch on the unit that turns it off and on so one can see the gains and emission difference immediately. We are working on getting a dyno time scheduled.
Let me know what you think. I have some more emissions tests that I will post tonight!
^^^^^ This test is a totally different kind than the first one. You will notice that emissions read zer0? Well, this is because the hydrogen system burnt up most of the hydrocarbons and then the factory Catalytic Converter burnt up the rest. That is, at least to the point that the machine couldn't detect any. Pretty neat eh?
1. How safe would this liquid hydrogen be to actually have in the car? If the bottle is punctured, what happens? Is it under pressure? Is it at a super cool temp like n2o? 2. What affect will this have on a nitrous setup? 3. What happens when you run out of hydrogen? Will the car run as usual or is it a must have like gasoline?
1. How safe would this liquid hydrogen be to actually have in the car? If the bottle is punctured, what happens? Is it under pressure? Is it at a super cool temp like n2o? 2. What affect will this have on a nitrous setup? 3. What happens when you run out of hydrogen? Will the car run as usual or is it a must have like gasoline?
1. Very safe!!! Not even flamable. Good luck puncturing a hole though! The unit is VERY strong. It is NOT under pressure so it CANNOT EXPLODE AT ALL! 2. We are not quite sure yet. We are assuming that one can run it right along side of the NOS system because it functions to cool the burn. However, until I have tested it...Many...many times I would not recomend trying it. There is one alternative though. You can set up the system kinda like how we have it set up on our eclipse with an on/off switch. You could turn the system off with the flick of a button that you can put anywhere you want and then run your NOS. We believe that if you were to use the system it would be like running secondary injectors. So, it would actually make the burn much easier on your engine. As I said before though...LET ME TEST IT ON MY CAR!!! 3. If you run out of the solution nothing adverse happens...except that you lose the torque you had before, the fuel economy, and you start pouring out high emissions. Your car does NOT become "Adicted" to the unit. We plan to have multiple outlets in every state within a few years that carry the solution and can install the units.
1. How safe would this liquid hydrogen be to actually have in the car? If the bottle is punctured, what happens? Is it under pressure? Is it at a super cool temp like n2o? 2. What affect will this have on a nitrous setup? 3. What happens when you run out of hydrogen? Will the car run as usual or is it a must have like gasoline?
1. Very safe!!! Not even flamable. Good luck puncturing a hole though! The unit is VERY strong. It is NOT under pressure so it CANNOT EXPLODE AT ALL! 2. We are not quite sure yet. We are assuming that one can run it right along side of the NOS system because it functions to cool the burn. However, until I have tested it...Many...many times I would not recomend trying it. There is one alternative though. You can set up the system kinda like how we have it set up on our eclipse with an on/off switch. You could turn the system off with the flick of a button that you can put anywhere you want and then run your NOS. We believe that if you were to use the system it would be like running secondary injectors. So, it would actually make the burn much easier on your engine. As I said before though...LET ME TEST IT ON MY CAR!!! 3. If you run out of the solution nothing adverse happens...except that you lose the torque you had before, the fuel economy, and you start pouring out high emissions. Your car does NOT become "Adicted" to the unit. We plan to have multiple outlets in every state within a few years that carry the solution and can install the units.
So then you do plan to test it using a nitrous system?
hey thats a 20 minute phone call "if i have seen farther it is by standing on the shoulders of giants" derek: do you know that non dairy cream is flamable Jennie: ...derek..what did you do
hey thats a 20 minute phone call "if i have seen farther it is by standing on the shoulders of giants" derek: do you know that non dairy cream is flamable Jennie: ...derek..what did you do
but hydrogen is flamable and no matter what it will have to be under pressure or eles you'll only have one atmosphere in there which is like having an open empty bottle of coke theres air in there but with out squezing the bottle nothing will come out and even if you did squeeze it a very small amount would come out (the amount of the chamber)
hey thats a 20 minute phone call "if i have seen farther it is by standing on the shoulders of giants" derek: do you know that non dairy cream is flamable Jennie: ...derek..what did you do
ummm says the reaction can reach 3000 C...if i remember right...this will melt our cars! plus its highly flammable. It will probably detonate before the ignition. Our cars are made to burn with O2 not H. I think the NO2 is a much better choice. Just dont put too much into it
Actually, Hydrogen gas is no more flamable than gasoline.
Yes, the hindenburg was filled with hydrogen, but if it wasn't for the Silver doping compound used on the skin of the hydrogen cell (which was an aluminum-impregnated resin) it would have never caught fire and burned up like it did.
It was actually a static discharge on the skin of the cell, which ignited the fabric, and then the hydrogen gas was able to leak and the whole thing went up.
Nowadays, they are experimenting with a SOLID hydrogen storage system for hydrogen powered fuel cels and engines. the hydrogen is in a powdered, solid state, and will not ignite in such a state either. In reality, Hydrogen is probably safer than gasoline when you factor in the environmental effects as well.
Nitrous is safe, as has been said, it's not flamable, It would be as safe as any pressurized tank of gas in the car (including CO2 or that fire extinguisher you may have in the cockpit )
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. And for the rest of you who attack this guy for just INTRODUCING sumthin to use, shame on you 
. He was being nice and wasnt asking for any orders til he got ALL the info bout it out.
i have 10 year 100,000 
i'm not gonna screw that up .
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. Thats one part that im conviced on 
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Thats terrible.
