Celica Forums General Discussion Engine and Performance Engine Blew!

Well i was heading back from a trip about an hour and a half away from my house, and all of a sudden my motor starting knocking real bad, and BAM, blew up. Smoke started rollin out the back of the car, and i had to get put up on a flat bed and brought home. I did some research on it and it turns out i threw a rod. So if anyone can help me out in finding a new engine that would be great. Also any reasons on why i threw a rod would be great also.

Oh no not another one

Sorry man, good hunting

sorry to hear that. did you/can you pull the diagnostic trouble codes(s)?

No, not yet, i will probably do that tomorrow. But the thing is, when it happened no lights came on except the oil light. No check engine light came on. Who knows??

my engine is knocking really bad too (its about to blow)...its been over a month since i've driven it. about to get it fixed hopefully starting next week.

i blew a rod or something..driving in the redline sux

The thing is that i was just cruisin along on the interstate at about 75 mph. And i checked my oil a few days before that and it was fine. I guess the 1zzfe is no good past 70000 miles for me.

your oil pump probably failed. the celicas have a problem with that (probably the same thing that happened to me)

Anyone know a good place on where to grab a 1zzfe??

just about any mechanic/bodyshop can grab a used one (usually $1,200-$1,500)

new ones will run you about $3,500-$4,000 for a mechanic/bodsyshop (installation included)

toyota dealerships will run you $5,000-$6,000 for a brand new one (installation included)

you can also look for used ones yourself by searching junkyards and google.com ... obviously look for ones that are totalled from behind and make sure that the engine mounts are not distorted or broken.

anyway, i got a wedding to go too...PM me if you want anymore information blacknel...i'll get back to you as soon as i can

Thanks a lot speed4theneed!!!

A lot of vvti engine's have been replaced under warranty because of a manufacturing problem. Heard something about the oil return line was too small, so the oil becomes too hot or something. Can't remember exactly...

But...anyways...the point: a lot of people have got their engine replaced under warranty. The most common time for this to happen (again: what i've HEARD) is when the engine has run between 50-70.000 km.

So maybe you should check with toyota before you go and spend a bunch of cash yourself...?

toyota says the won't cover mine under warranty. i have 67,000 miles on my vvtl-i (gts) and i have the extended 100,000 mile warranty...but they said it was 'driver error because of a missshift' (which isn't true).

but..if i even want to SEE if its covered under warranty...i have to pay toyota $1,500 out my own pocket for them to break the engine down so they can check and see if its covered or not...and they say 90% probably not. so needless to say i've very po'd and probably won't buy another toyota again...i can't afford to lose $1,500

Aout 1000 miles into buying my GTS, the motor spun the #4 rod bearing, I had to get an all new short block, and also needed some headwork. Warranty covered everything. the funny thing is, I wasn't pushing the car; it just happened due to a bad bearing and tight tolerances. They couldn't blame it on a misshift, since my car is an auto. Some of the earlier GTS cars were at risk, due to a bad batch of bearings that went out to some of those engines from 2001-2002.

I also got no CEL, just Knocking and the sound of lug nuts in a coffee can. not fun.

The shop did awesome work though, and I have never had a repeat.

Good luck wih that man

Another Caleb accident?

You should see people with turbos on their cars tune to 25+ PSI. One guy blew the rod right out. Too much combustion pressure and things will go wrong. So don't redline your car.

damn...sorry to hear that bro.

that sucks man

I found this on ebay for you... Hope this will help
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...;category=33615 [cgi.ebay.com]

GOOD LUCK

the engine will still blow when youre not revving it high? jeez...that much be some crap bearings or whatever. I hope mines don blow on me while im just cruising at low speeds

maybe a problem with the 2000's?

god damn that fucking sucks...

damn..that sux..hope it won't happen to my 2000gts..i only have 1 1/2 month left under i reach my 5years/60kmile..fuck..if it gonna die, it betta die now..i hate to get a loan to fix the car if it blow...

If it lasted that long it'll probably be fine, problems usually develop in the first 20K, after that, everyting is loosened up and broken in.

mine was one of the first 7th gen celicas to be built (december of '99) ... needless to say i inherited all the initial 'quirks' of having a first production car ... something i have definately learned from.

Thank you very much importcarbabe for the link. Hopefully everything works out for me, wish me luck!!!

he already stated he wasnt redlining his car he was just crusing along. My GOD dont people read anymore

I MEAN IF YOUR OIL LIGHT CAME ON THATS PROBABLY AN INDACATION THAT UM ...YOU NEED OIL!! COME ON PEOPLE IF YOU CAN HEAR YOUR VALVES TAPPING THAT HARD THERES NO LUBRACATION.TOYOTAS ARE KNOWN AS SLUDGE FACTORYS SO CHANGE OIL FREAQUENTLY!I HAVE ALMOST 60000 ON MINE AND I REDLINE THE [email]FU@*[/email] OUT OF IT AND NO MAJOR PROBLEMS EXCEPT THE TRANNY BUT THATS ALL ME.I ALSO BABY MINE IN THE FLUID DEPARTMENT.THEY HAVE RECOMMENDED INTRAVELS,AND IM SURE ITS NOT JUST SO SOME COMPANY SOMEWHERE CAN MAKE MONEY,SO YOU SHOULD PREFORM THEM ON OR BEFORE NOT WHEN THERES A PROBLEM.PREVENTATIVE MAINTAINANCE GOES ALONG WAY.

how often did you change your oil

If your short block, head and crank is ok, I can send you a stock rod and piston. If you pay for shipping. if it helps.

The oil light came on after the engine blew, and the reason it came on then is because all of the oil was on the interstate. I change my oil every 3000 miles with mobile one synthetic. I am not a fucking idiot with my car, so if you dont not have anything helpful to state, please to not say anything at all. And do not type in caps, there arent many people that arent going to enjoy that on here.

jav8or i change my oil every 3000 miles with mobile one synthetic. And c2gas, thanks a lot, i will let you know if i need it. Also c2gas, hopefully i will now be ordering a stage 2 from you.

Np man!
I have those from st2 installs where we install new rods and pistons. I have plenty of them.
Also I suggest to diagnose what parts are broken, and may buy better upgraded parts beside stock ones. It is wery hard to kill all the parts in the engine at once.
Example:
Maybe your shortblock and head are ok, but would need boreing, rods and new pistons. I would suggest rather buy wiseco pistons and Crower rods, beside to get a hole new or used engine.
So make the diagnosis and do a calculation.
(internals also will let you go st2)
Gas

Would you sell your blown engine maybe ? Im looking for one to beef up over the winter

OH SO YOU FORGOT TO PUT YOUR OIL PAN BOLT BACK IN MORAN

I'm not going to say or qoute anyone. I'm just sorry another Celica engine went. I've driven enough cars and driven my poor Celica into the ground to know what it takes beyond the talk.
I just want to say I'm sorry for your misfortune and I hope the best for you in the future with everything.
Good luck and don't worry, it's not the end of the world. I have been through worse.

never heard of the motor blowing for no reason. lord know sI kick the crap outa this motor and it still runs like a champ after 80K. 14.02 @ 100 mph just last night as a matter of fact lol

have you checked into the oil pump? perhaps like someone said before it may have failed. that is definitly the weak point of our engines.

also like gas said find out what exactly needs to be replaced. you might end up ahead of the game buy buying upgraded parts instead of an old stock motor. this could be especially beneficial since you want to run a stage 2 turbo kit.

sad to here when celi's go down. GL getting it back up and goin

From what I can tell by being on the boards for a long enough time is that the 2000 GT's have a problem with something in the bottom part of the engine...I talked to a dealer buddy of mine and he said that he's put 3 new engines in celicas, twice for oil system problems, and once for a mis-shift...then the 2003 Gt's have problems with their tranny synchronizer bearings...it makes you tranny rattle...that and apparently their dealer frequently replaces catalytic converters die to malfunction (I'm guessing 02 sensors)...if you are looking for a rebuilt OEM engine, check out ATK-engines.com call them...they will be able to help out

Well it turns out the rod somehow came loose on the camshaft and drilled the inside of the block. Not real sure how this happened, but i am about to tear into it some more and see if i can find anything. Wish me luck.

ROd loose on the CAM shaft???? do you mean you spun a bearing on a connecting rod on the Crankshaft, and it tapped/drilled a hole into the block?????

Exactly, i knew i didnt say it correctly and was waiting for someone else to. Yes though, that is what happened. Any reasons on why this happened?

Lol im with mike on this one. I beat the piss out of my car and she runs strong. I guess i should develop an oil pump gear.

Srry to hear that Blackcel, wish you luck in the future bro.

The oil light will only come on after the PSI drops below 5.

By that time, you have already done irrepairable damage to your engine.