Celica Forums General Discussion General alarm opinion...

which one is better? Clifford Matrix 3.5 or Viper 791xv???

Having a hard time deciding which one to get...and how hard would they be if I were to install them myself???

here is a pic of the viper:

http://www.indoaudio.org/791xv1.jpg

and here is the clifford:

btw...both are pager alarms

i would go with viper...it depends if you have any experience on installin alarms..cuz the ppl that did mine took like 3 or so hours to do it.

Clifford Matrix. I have it bro, and it's so worth it. BTW, Clifford and Viper are the same company. The Clifford has the carbon fiber alarm. I think it's clean lookin'. But if you look at the alarm remote itself. IT'S THE EXACT SAME THING, except viper is blue. Hit me up if you need to know more about it.

hmm thats a hard one personally I would go with the viper alarm just because I have Viper and I love it! Very good qaulity but im sure Clifford is good too.

i worked for best buy for 5 years...they are the same thing, they install the same and perform the same. Do you want a carbon fiber looking transmitter or a blue one, thats the difference, be careful man... remote starters are hard to install in celicas, there are a lot of tricks with diodes and such that most normal cars do not require, as soon as i became mecp certified, my celica was the first car i put a 3.5x in, it took over 5 hours and i had problem with the factory security not disarming, and the ignition wires to the relay pack are all like 18 gauge, And if you are a manual, you cant have it professionally installed because its illegal to bypass the clutch, which i can tell you how to do if you want. Good luck!

Damien, sorry bro, didnt see your post before i posted... Anyway, we agree to the same answer

^^^ ditto

is all good as long as we're all on the same page.

cool thanks guys...i just bought a clifford alarm earlier today . Tried to install it myself but its hard so i'm just goin to take it to a shop tomorrow hahaha thanks for the help guys...

silverOOgts...yes i do drive a manual so yea can you tell me how to bypass it??? thanks

I also want to know

there are 2 different harnesses going into the clutch pedal, way up top, one comes in from the side and has 2 wires into the plug. I believe its the higher one. anyway one senses that the clutch pedal is engaged to start the car, the other one will shut off the cruise when engaged. Unplug the one that senses the car to start and make a small jumper between the 2 pins of the plug and seal it with electrical tape, then zip tie it up out of the way. If done right, your car will start with the key w/o pressing the clutch pedal. Note: This is very dangerous to those, like myself that used to leave your car in gear. I have had my car hop as much as 10 ft before with my remote start. Always set your ebrake and leave it in neutral. Good luck