Celica Forums General Discussion Engine and Performance TPR to ship soon!

Hey everyone! Getting things situated with my new shop finally. They are currently working on getting me an intake prototype ready for my approval, then I'm having about 50-70 made (depending on available cash at the time)

Lookin at goin back to stainless steel or aluminum. So a couple color options and polished will be available.

I'm having 25 exhausts made as well. There are about 13-15 orders already so that leaves 10 extra.

Magnaflow is custom making the muffler for me (turn around would be about next week for them to finish and ship the mufflers). I have the pipes already bent, cut, and polished. Tips and flanges are on the way.

Just wanted to give everyone an update that turnaround is doing just that...turning around

More orders are welcome to speed up the process!

www.tuningprecisionracing.com/shop [tuningprecisionracing.com]

Finally!!! Glad to see you got the issues taken care of!!!

congrats chris

yes!

helps when you deal with good shops lol

can't wait to get one!

Good news Chris!!!

please remind I have to wait it until it reaches Italy...and I can't wait to...

Bye

SWEET!!!!!...AND CONGRATS. ON THE NEW AND IMPROVED SHOP CHRIS...

Well i will handle all interntional shipments myself personally. Most people request they be written as gifts for like 35$ or something. SO i have no problem doin that.

congrats. cant wait to see the products out there ont he markets

Hope the headers are next!!!

...AND CAMS

That's good...congrats

How long is the waiting list? I'm interested on headers but only after actual finish product and dyno proven are shown.

i will wait for the dyno and finished product too

...x3

Lucky_317 has one. I believe he might do some dyno-ing in the near future

that would help sell your product when we can see multiple dynos on different setups getting good gains over the competion

yup yup yup! the 20-30 people who already have them havent dynoed it yet.

yes!...cant wait. Which tips did you end up goin with? any pics?

i'm waitin for headers, cams, and the midpipe

I need a TPR combo SRI/CAI intake ASAP. How soon can I get one?

i'll purchase the whole set (i/h/e) as soon as it is available.

with the addition the camshaft (hopefully eventually) i'd like to see a pre-tuned map for the apexi pfc based upon all tpr parts.

chris..you're exhaust is by far the best looking i have seen so far congrats on everything falling into place for you at your new place

hey chris one question, does this mean everyone that has an order placed as of right now will get polish?or will this be an option? i want a header too ill dyno it for you

The cams will be out before the header. Mainly because there is more money to be made in the cams, and it takes less money for R&D. My new shop has its own dyno and I already have a guinea pig that lives 5 minutes away from it .

I'm going to be talking to my shop about the intakes again tomorrow. It looks like we are going to use metal for them once again. I will probbly offer Blue/Red/Polished for color choices.

Like i said before, any orders now will greatly help speed up the process. Pix to come!!!!

cams for the gts or gt, chris? must have missed that thread what would the difference be?

...coo...show the dyno and quality of the cams and the money's shipped...

Well I am not dynoing the cams myself. Everyone bitched that they wanted an independant 3rd party dyno so I am giving the prototype cam to a fellow board RESPECTED board member and he agreed to dyno it.

Right now the GTS is getting the cam, the GT will also get one once i get more cashflow coming in and recover my losses.

glad the gts is finally getting some cams...no one else makes any i dont beleive

...^^^ o.k. so whats the ball park figure to what the release date for these bad boys????

Wellll...the prototype is ALMOST done. the biggest problem will be getting the cores made. since no one sells cores, my shop has to make them from scratch. Once we get a prototype core made and ground and it works fine, then boom the first group buy will begin. So, sooner than you think

so what would be the difference over the stock cams?

when you have finish the prototype and start selling them do you have a clue what they are going to cost.

The difference over stock cams is performance .

They will be priced according to their market. right now im aiming for about 1100-1200.

what are the new tips going to look like and what length did you go with?

put me on the list for SRI and soon the Exhaust!

can i see pictures of the first ones made

when do you expect to start working on the header?

yeah, I dunno ANY company that does the kinda dyno requests you people ask for. I'd love to see you demand something like that of say AEM or Injen. they could care less

When the prototypes are done I'll personally be dynoing them for easy cuase I'm tired of everyone givin him shit about the dynos.

Dynos = $$$$$$ more dynos = even more $$$$$ so if you want that to turn into higher cost products I'm sure he'll do any dynos you want lol.

this is also why nobody else has dynoed it yet. I do it becuase I always dyno my new mods so I share the results. also I have to end up tuning the power fc anyways lol

so, as soon as things are ready, you'll see pics, opinions, dynos and most likely track times right away

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also for the guy asking for a Power FC map to be included - I wouldnt personally hand that sucka out for free. I can't speak for what cTPR is gonna do but that's NOT cheap.

last map we created took about 10 hours of dyno time. regular price which most people pay is $120 per hour so I'll let you do the math.

also I'm almost positive the simple map MWR made that most people still use will NOT work right with the cams. You'll have to get it tuned. and you're lucky cause I told Easy_C that I would dyno it with the mwr map so he can let you guys know what will happen, good or bad.

Lastly I'm using my own $$ to help you guys with independent dynos so if you don't like em, dont bother complaining cuase I wont care either way

...^^^^^tru-true-tru...

WOW!! Easy_C cool man! I really want TPR exhaust, but right now my alternative is TRD

Yes mike is my guinea pig

i hope those cams will give the gains like the hondas get and still be reliable

you'll know as soon as I know lol I will have dynos and pics posted no more then 1 hour after I have them lol

sooooo...will these cams work with the stock ecu without a CEL? i get the impression of lots of dyno tuning here...

we dont know if the stock ecu will work. We changed the duration and valve lift on both profiles so I am assuming it might not work. I'm not entirely sure of the stock ecu's software capability. If its a dynamic setup that just accepts parameters and infinitely adjusts accordingly, it will work fine. If its a static setup with set boundaries and parameters, it may not...

i know the difference would be performance..i'm asking whats different about them? lighter weight?

mike (lucky) are you going to post up the power fc maps you do? that would only make it fair. just saying..i can tune a stock celica with the fc to get some extra horses without any perfomance mods whatsoever (although that probably wouldnt be very beneficial for the car )

i would like to see dynos of the cams with a stock ecu, personally.

and mike..glad you're dynoing something to get people off of chris' back..but really, understand that people don't want to buy things when the performance benefits are in question.

well the thing that gets me is why are they in question in the first place? Its not like im injen and claim 16whp with just an intake. lol ive even sent the dyno files themselves to people. But alas, this time around i guess it will have more credibility with mike doin it.

hahah i did see that 16 or whatever (maybe a little less but still) whp claim by injen...thats some crazy bs some thing with trd..they say 20 whp with their exhaust.

theres something to be said about accuracy and holding all other variables equal. sure, if i dyno my car at 100 degrees it'd be less than when i dyno'd it at 50 with a turbine blowing 60 mph winds on my intercooler i can't stand manufacturer 'propoganda'

good luck with eveything chris..everything i've seen from you i love. your stuff will be on my car someday (lol although i still want dynos )

...bingo!!!! especially on the first part...a lot of us aint gonna have the "power fc" whatever its called...so dyno w/ stock ecu would b fantastic..

coolness good luck with the new shop

the dynos will be on stock ecu. I won't have time to get he power fc tuned up at first. I imagine it will take around 8hrs just to do a basemap. it'll all depend on how well it takes to the old base map we made.

also I dunno if I'll post my map or not. it's gonna cost me over $400 in dyno time so giving it away for free to save everyone else some $$$ isn't high on my priority list lol I also don't wanna have to deal with the liability issues involved with releasing my own map.

think about it this way, How many people bought the Power FC from MWR and continue to use their "base map" w/o dynoing it or tuning it to their car? I'd say 80-90% of the people who buy it. with an improper une you can destroy your car. I don't wanna have to worry about that responsibility. rarely will 2 celicas react the same with the same map.

i totaly agree with Mike, i think its kinda stupid he is spending his own money and you guys are asking for more, stop crosing the line, stop being cheap damn it. if you want good performance pay for it. i think he is doing us a big favor by even dynoing the car, just because pplz wanna be so up tight about dynos, if you really dont trust the product then dont buy it. just my 02

damn, i didn't mean to start a big controversy over a tpr specific base map for the apexi pfc. just thought that with easy_c bumping out a ton of parts that it would be nice to see a map that works in conjunction with all the available parts since i would assume that he would already have his car tuned to the entire product line.

i never asked for it to be free, just an option that could be distributed (for whatever cost) to those that purchased the entire product line of tpr. selling the base map would reduce tuning time for tpr buyers and also help tpr recover r&d costs associated with developing the product. one hand washes the other and both parties benefit.

hell, i'd pay a significant amount for a map that was tuned specifically for the tpr i/h/e & cam (i've been waiting for the entire product line to debut). he retails all the parts, why not retail a base tuning service as well?

i was not asking for a handout from anybody. alright so dyno testing costs like a grand. sell the map for $500. the buyer saves half the tuning cost so he's happy. you recover half your costs so you're happy. sell it to two buyers and you've recovered all your costs. sell it to three and you've got a profit.

isn't this a reasonable question to ask? i was just hoping tpr was looking in to this as a service to retail. i have much appreciation and respect for all parties associated with tpr including all you guinea pigs, try not to take offense, we aren't all trying to roll you to benefit at your expense.

thanks.

i understand that mike

what i meant was that any dyno with a pfc may not be a true representation of the products performance. stock ecu would be great for comparison's sake.

e_degala sorry for being a little harsh back there, now this makes a lot more sence. if your willing to pay then your strait, i just said for the pplz that want the map for free, besides like mike said before, he dosent wanna be responsible if your car wont react to the settings and blows up. every car is different so take your chances

The header is being put on hold because I delegated the R&D funds for it to getting the cam out. The cam will be a bigger seller and our community needs it right now. But once some nice cash comes in from the cams, we will be getting that header out as well. We also have a couple other goodies for ideas too, but its time to market smart and get things done quickly

And no my car isnt tuned for anything right now. I only have a Gen 1 TPR intake on it ...

yes maybe in the future if you havent thought of doing this yet a biggerthrottle body would be nice

wow im getting goosebumps

i really wish cams was last so i could have time to save up, and be one of the first ones to have it. but it seens like ill be one of the last ones oh well TPR fucking rocks

dont worry the cams wont go anywhere. they will be there when you have the money

TB is already thought of

damn, i want the headers, cams, and midpipe when that shit comes out

and now that i think about it, i wish pfc worked with 03

well if you're willing to pay then I'm sure some kinda arrangement can be made to ge tyou guys a good power fc base map for all the tpr stuff

you have no idea about how many pm's I get about people wanting my maps or wanting me to do their car for free. I'm like wtf? I'm really not THAT nice of a guy lol my generosity goes only so far lol. if I was super rich I wouldnt care but I'm just another poor sucka trying to make a $1 outa 15 cents lol

lucky, i had no idea that you were being hit up for maps like that. i hear you now.

i've been waiting for the tpr i/h/e set to debut. i planned on getting that first, then, adding the camshaft and apexi pfc. just wanted a map to start off with 'cause i planned on taking the map & pfc together down to a tuning shop and having it tweaked (hopefully it can run with the stock ecu so i can have the cam installed prior to tuning).

never intended to run with the base map as the final tuning so if tpr or anybody else sells the base map perhaps a clause that states that it is not to be utilized as a final map could prevent liability and doing so is at the buyer's own risk.

i'd like to see further dynos of the new parts coming out not 'cause of doubt, skepticism, or credibility of tpr but curiousity of the awesome potential that is possible that has eluded the celica market until now.

personally i'd like to thank tpr and associates for catering to the inquisitiveness of our fellow celica owners regardless of how unappreciative they may appear.

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And its customers like you that keep it going

i know this has been covered but does anyone have pics and sound clips of the TPR exhaust in action?

check the search, i don't think so yet...hey Chris, I wouldn't mind getting one of your changable CAI/SRI and I can do a whole bunch of stuff for you that nobody has done if you can cut the price a little bit And then i'll post away how good it is so you get great advertising...just ask Stain of Cain since i got some tattoos from them...I advertised the hell out of them, ill do the same for you!!!

sigh yes here let me post it

exhaust alone

it isn't working...oh i forgot sorry

it works for me

Pm me, I'll give you my number...we can talk

when is it going to be carb legal

cant wait for all the great parts? are you ever gonna think about putting out a turbo kit for gts or are you gonna leave that to c2 powwer

unsure right now. Lets get over cams first. I do know the cams will be turbo friendly as well

Question about the exhaust? So, is it going to be an axle back setup or is it going to go further forward on the system(Towards Cat)? Will any welding be required for this system?

its an axle back setup, it wont need welding. welding will only be required if you get the tpr header with out the downpipe

yup, its just an axle back.

damn i cant wait!!

does anyone have any pics of the TPR on a car, cause from how it seems TPR is better that TRD in gains, but im lookin for some pics

never seen pics on the car

Chris, you make me very happy when you mention something new and add the after it.

how about i just meet up with you one day while im in RI? lol

Chris, you better make it to the May 28th show in Plymouth!!! lol, you better damnit! If not

Got your pm, ill call you in the next few days

im planning on being there! I may even have all my products on by then.

chris you never answered my question about what tips you are going to end up puttin on the exhausts.

We don't know yet, my old shop kinda screwed me and made the piping to fit a 6" tip. i cant find any 6" tips with a 2.5 in but I think we found a 7" that can be cut. i'll post pics if my shop takes them.

so you would cut them to make them 6"? i really dont want any extra hangin out

Easy_C, when can I get your SRI & does it come with a heat shield? I need an intake soon. Have you dyno'd the SRI setup yet?

i'll be goin over to the new shop as soon as the tips get there. that way I can take pics for easy_c.

I saw 1 today that was the same thing only not the right size. it was pretty good lookin.

it's polished, slant cut and rolled edges.

once the exhaust is finished he can put the tip on and cut it and measure it and all that good stuff. chris doesnt want them to stick out either.


the guy doesgood work. just be patient and trust that everything will work out fine in the end

if you people knew how much behind the scenes crap that goes on you'd have a cow