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THANK YOU BRIAN CROWER!!!!! they even have titanium retainers...
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I'm trying to get the picture clear... its basically like this... To: "Steven Black" <sblack82@mail.com> CC: Subject: Re: 1zz camshafts??? Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:49:24 -0800 Show Full Headers Back To [INBOX] See attached pdf file. Pricing is $438 for the pair, $356 for the spring and titanium retainer kit. Cams are new blanks (intake and exhaust), fully tested. Thanks for your interest in Crower, Crower Cams & Equipment Co Inc 6180 Business Center Court San Diego CA 92154-5604 USA Phone: 619-661-6477 Fax: 619-661-6466 http://www.crower.com
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Originally posted by A_Bathing_Ape:
I hit, what else, oh plus dome.
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AWESOME!! It is about time, i love it!
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What about the 2ZZ??? 
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Originally posted by A_Bathing_Ape:
I hit, what else, oh plus dome.
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stage 1: Street use with emphasis on bottom to mid-range power...can be used with stock retainers and stock rev-limiter. RPM range idle to 7000+ rpm. Lobe Center 114 DEG. Duration is 268 / 260... even though stock is 274 / 260...however, duration at .050" of lift stock is 204 / 195... and stage 1 is 220 / 209
Stage 2: Designed specifically for supercharger / turbo, and their Titanium retainers must be used with the cams...duration is 262 / 262, and 211/211 at .050" of lift
Stage 3: Spring / Retainer kit required...Designed for street/Strip NA engines...rev range 1000 rpm to 7800 plus...duration is 272 / 272!!! and at .050" of lift they are at 224 / 224...lobe duration is 112 DEG.
STAGE 4, FULL RACE::: Spring / retainer kit required...RADICAL track use, requires ECU upgrade...rough idle...a gigantic 280 / 280duration at .010" of lift...and 232 / 232 at .050" of lift... FINALLY...THANK GOD...and Crower
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no information on the 2zz...as they claim it is hard to reproduce...I'm currently arguing with them on this one right now...
the only real difference in the 2zz lift cam and a vtec cam is that the vtec cams have 3 lobes and the lift cams have 2...and they are producing the 3 lobe vtec cams right and left!!!!!..I don't see why they are having such trouble
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awesome! maybe they mentioned this but a lot of that i didnt understand. but what are the estimated gains?
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I want to order some, is there a link to the website thanks 
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Are they even taking orders for that yet? link for more info would be nice.
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just when i think i'm startin to actually becoming half-way knowledgeable about my car... can someone please explain cams to me? i know i've heard of them many times before, bit i dont really know how they work, what they do exactly, where they go, what gains they give, etc... any help guys?
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they will not do 2zz cams they are too expensive to make. this is an email response I got on 12/17/04 -------------------------------------------------- Nothing for the 2ZZ, only the 1ZZ. The 2ZZ cam core is very difficult to reproduce. Thanks for your interest in Crower, Crower Cams & Equipment Co, Inc 6180 Business Center Court San Diego, CA 92154-5604 USA Tel: 619-661-6477 Fax: 619-661-6466 www.crower.com [ crower.com]
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another email I got said the cost/benefit was not good enough so it wont happen.
better hope TPR or ForcedFed is sucessful in their attempts.
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ahhhh...sorry to hear that mike...any yes the 1zz are available for purchase...go to www.crower.com...they [ crower.com...they] aren't listed under the toyota menu...but if you email info@crower.com they will send you the same information...I'd say the easiest thing would be to get the number and call them and place the order...these are gonna rock...JUST gotta get the money together...and the $1,000 for the install
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good for the 1zz people but us 2zz people are screwed so you gt s will probably end up faster than us if they keep making the parts for you and even if they do make the parts for us they are way more expensive
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ehhhh...maybe only with forced induction...I've been talking to a company that is running numbers on a 1zz stroker kit for me too... hehehehehehehehe
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if celica gts owners were interested in modding their cars as much as rsx-s owners...we'd have cams
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better hope TPR or ForcedFed is sucessful in their attempts. Yeah Forcedfed is siad they should be out soon, but with a price tag of 1200-1400 bucks.
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yup same with tpr lol although he's lookin at 1100 - 1200 I can't believe you're gonna pay $1000 for the install of the cams 
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^^^^^ I don't know...it was a guess...I've never done headwork before, and when I had it built I had everything done all at once...most places around here charge $450 for a simple swap of fully assembled heads... and I was thinking about the stage 3 setup...they'd have to pretty much build it again
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if celica gts owners were interested in modding their cars as much as rsx-s owners...we'd have cams ...IM interested!!!!! shoot...
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i wanna see some gains and dynos
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OHHH Sooo sweeet!!!! I am going to order a st2 turbo cam set asap and let you guys know!
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dang 1100-1300 bux for cams! just because they know we'll pay that much for them doesnt mean they have to charge it...
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When are they comin out? Last I heard, not for a while.
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what are the usual gains on cams...
i heard something for gts that it could make it 240 whp
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240hp of just cams i highly doubt that usually its 5-15hp
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I don't understand this. They can build new and better internals for 1ZZ but not 2ZZ. Companies have lost their damn minds to not develop parts for a car thats been around since '72.
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240hp of just cams i highly doubt that usually its 5-15hp that's what i thought guess who i heard it from... 
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Pricing is $438 for the pair, $356 for the spring and titanium retainer kit
what do they mean pairs? and would you need to get the spring and titanium retainer kit? pretty much am i going to be saving closer to 900 bucks for the cams or just 438?
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Who did you hear 240whp from? If it was me, then i really dont know what HP figure was made. My shop at the time was a fraud so lord knows if they told the truth about that
TPR Intake! - Injens high end with AEM's low end and NO BOGGING!
TPR EXHAUST! - Exhaust made 10.5 whp peak and 32 whp at 6300 on my car!!!
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heard it from a friend from you, but its ok
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so only 5-15 hp would be an expected gain?? freakin xpensive for that little gain
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yes it is...if its only that little i dont think it would be worth it.
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^^ nobody knows the gains yet cause they arent out. peopl eare speculating.
also if you think they are charging $1100 - $1400 cause they think you'll pay it youre nuts.
crower stated their reasoning is difficulty. they obviously have an unlimited time and budget.
believe me when I say these ARE NOT CHEAP to make. especially in the measly 10 - 20 per order quantities. you're lucky they are coming out at all.
basically every company's opinion is that the juice is not worth the squeeze.
the 2zz cam is NOT a bad cam. it's also a very well developed cam so it's gonna be very difficult to make a better one du to the materials and setup of the stock system.
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kinda off topic, but can the rev limiter be changed on the GT?
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this will creat a reason for the GT owners to invest in the power fc. with tha tyour answer is yes.
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how much more hp gain do you think you could get if you hit 8krpm in GT?
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damn. why get a turbo when i can just do that 
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I think 438 is a good price for 5-15whp. Look at how much gains you get from an intake, exhaust, header, pullies, etc. NA cars are expensive to mod, but more safe...in my opinion. I think that the cams will provide more benefits than an I/H/E setup. Plus, I am sure that there will be a bit of a torque/acceleration gain much better than i/h/e. I'm just defending the price.
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^wow, last time i saw you post was sooo long ago dude
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this makes me wish I had a GT
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To bAD i dont know shit about cars or cams, i just own a Gt which i am learning about. Anyone wanan break it down for a novice like myself ? 
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can a gt w/ map fueler, cams, I/E/H, beat a stock gts??
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imma get intouch with them after this 3 day weekend and order the stage1 cams i think the body kit can wait for a little bit
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this makes me wish I had a GT why??? the stuff will come
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I want a real dyno chart.
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i wanna know what ya'll are talkin about! can anyone explain cams a little further? 
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go to howstuffworks.com and search for camshaft it will tell you in full detail how it works.
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I want a real dyno chart. uh, this is crower we're talking about. lol they are known for doin great work.
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I want a real dyno chart. uh, this is crower we're talking about. lol they are known for doin great work. I'm sure they are good cams, but I'm curious what the altered powerband looks like.
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I called them on Friday, and I'm saving for the STage 3 setup...but its gonna be a while because I want an apexi power fc to go with it
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hmmm, if it improves the availability of the HP/torque, it will make the car a lot faster, despite the peak numbers not changing much.. low end torque rules
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for the GTS, the 1st TPR cam will be concentrating on low - midrange power. it will only slighty alter the top end.
he took this route first cause of soo many people that wont wanna save up and buy a power fc. too aggressive on the high end will be worthless without engine management.
I'm hoping to see some crazy low end numbers. the top end will come eventually.
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hey, we need low end more than anything else right now since we make most of our other power up top anyway
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To bAD i dont know shit about cars or cams, i just own a Gt which i am learning about. Anyone wanan break it down for a novice like myself ? Very useful: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/camshaft.htm
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the mugen cam's for the RSX turned out 20 whp on the dyno. crower is one of the best companies in the industry so its safe to say gains will be pretty nice, depending on your setup and tuning
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omfg im so excited! i gotta wait for some graphs although but i betthey will be great, just gotta be sure.
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$438 for the pair... hmmm should i do it???? and put body kit on hold or no? i have till 5pm to decide
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$438 for the pair... hmmm should i do it???? and put body kit on hold or no? i have till 5pm to decide  you're deciding between cams and a bodykit?? hint: CAMS!!!!! 
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...unless if the body kit gives you more power of course
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coo shit, just ordered them, said he had hella calls today about ppl that saw the screen shot of that pdf that they e-mailed to that guy, i asked why he didnt have it up on the website yet, he said Honda's are priority .. pfft i guess there are too many honpoos out there stage 1 shipped + tax = $480 ME equals one happy dude!
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ill get results up when i get em done, wheres a good place to get my shit dynoed? i wanna do a before and after but dont wanna pay an arm and a legg for it
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i wanna do a before and after but dont wanna pay an arm and a legg for it option a) get some knee pads and some lube and offer yourself to the dyno-guy as he gives you a special discount for your services option b)suck it up because performance and tuning ain't cheap...
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^^^^^^ people on fourms are so nice huh? LOL!!
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yeah, and make sure you hurry up w/ the install & dyno, i wanna see what these cams can do
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too bad you're from nor cal. I have a dyno place that I work with alot. but we're a bit far from you lol
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way to go man...can't wait to see what they do...
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how much more hp gain do you think you could get if you hit 8krpm in GT? your going to need a lot more than just cams to rev safely to 8k
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cams are for low end power/take off, hitting 8k would be pointless for us
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you would need a completely built head with new valves, stiffer springs, and stronger retainers to hit above 8k in a GT... matt at Monkey wrench hits 8300 rpm with his turboed 1zz spyder but all of his engine is built using the MWR parts
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I don't understand this. They can build new and better internals for 1ZZ but not 2ZZ. Companies have lost their damn minds to not develop parts for a car thats been around since '72. Yeah i really couldn't agree more bro... 
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If they do make cams for 2zz i WILL BRAKE the 225hp line for all motor celi's! I plan on braking it even with out the cams so w/e... Just get ready to give me props in a month that's all i'm saying for now...
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its probably because the 1zz has been around for like 7 years now
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1zz is def old motor
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dudes the 2zz cams are being tested this upcoming week by lucky, he's gunna dyno the TPR's for them, so chill u'll have ur cams soooon
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dudes the 2zz cams are being tested this upcoming week by lucky, he's gunna dyno the TPR's for them, so chill u'll have ur cams soooon yeah, but heard they are testing for more low end to mid range power in short, im not expecting radical high end gains. im still interested in tpr's headers. r they still coming out?
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If they do make cams for 2zz i WILL BRAKE the 225hp line for all motor celi's! I plan on braking it even with out the cams so w/e... Just get ready to give me props in a month that's all i'm saying for now... if you do it that would be great, 225whp in a 2500lbs car, n/a = sick as F... but even with cams i dont see you break 200whp without a decent header... ...well maybe with a custom cat back..idk 
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If they do make cams for 2zz i WILL BRAKE the 225hp line for all motor celi's! I plan on braking it even with out the cams so w/e... Just get ready to give me props in a month that's all i'm saying for now... you have no proof that you're even close. G-tech doesnt count. we cant even verify you used the correct inputs. the current best on the boards is 194 whp and it was never duplicated or verified within 1%. his 2nd highest dyno same mods was 188 whp. I'm at 185whp. you WILL NOT be hitting 225 whp like I alread stated in your other thread. I understand you're excited about the mods you "think" gave you power but please don't spread bad information cause you really have NO CLUE what kinda power you have. thanx
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If they do make cams for 2zz i WILL BRAKE the 225hp line for all motor celi's! I plan on braking it even with out the cams so w/e... Just get ready to give me props in a month that's all i'm saying for now... you have no proof that you're even close. G-tech doesnt count. we cant even verify you used the correct inputs. the current best on the boards is 194 whp and it was never duplicated or verified within 1%. his 2nd highest dyno same mods was 188 whp. I'm at 185whp. you WILL NOT be hitting 225 whp like I alread stated in your other thread. I understand you're excited about the mods you "think" gave you power but please don't spread bad information cause you really have NO CLUE what kinda power you have. thanx lucky...you already powned him on the previous thread and i have already told him several times he has not gained anything from this 'chip'...let him be and when he gets a timeslip or dyno then he'll know.
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maybe i should bust out graphs...oh wait...wrong website...
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maybe i should bust out graphs...oh wait...wrong website... oh c'mon...don't you miss the impatient 'dyno-hounding' just a little bit?...
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looks like I have another performance mod to buy...
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Can someone tell me where on the website you found these cause i looked everywhere on there and couldn't find any cams for 1zz.
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not on the website... I emailed him and the graphs on page 1 of the thread are from the email that crower shot back to me
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u have to call crower urself
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my teamate johnsgt officially has the first 1zz F/I cams. we installed them yesterday along with new springs and valves. I'll try to get the pics up in a few minutes.
they looked very good. cant wait to get em on the dyno.
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^^^ my cams should be here tomorrow! how was the install, how long it take u, and how was the feel afterwards?
*****could you post an install or just a quick heads up on anything you ran into i should know?
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crower said the cams arnt done yet and wont ship till wensday now makes me mad because johnsGT already got his installed
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that sux. you will need an air compressor to get the cam sprocket off/on correctly. you'll have to tape up the first hole on the cam and then blow the air in. this lifts a locking pin that will release the cam. if you DONT do this you wont get it off. and if you dont get it right when you re-install it, you wont have VVT any more other then that it isnt too hard.
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crower said the cams arnt done yet and wont ship till wensday now makes me mad because johnsGT already got his installed What stage did you get?
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stage 1 because i just lookin for a little better take off, n/a i have all the tools i need compressor (my dad is a mechanic by trade) and we have a hot rod/custom business, just when it comes to doing something spefic id never done before i get a lil nervous, im sure it will be fine though. when i work with chevy 350's a such they are such simple beasts you cant really mess anything up, but the celi is different and i just dont wanna screw up so i ask the pros (aka, lucky) when i get to do the install you might have to give me ur cell number or sumthin, haha i might need help.
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heres a picture of john's ...
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WOW!!!!! Nice...that doesn't look too bad at all...did he install themor did he have a shop do it or what????
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WOW!!!!! Nice...that doesn't look too bad at all...did he install themor did he have a shop do it or what???? We, meaning a few guys from my team did it. Lucky, Illusive, and Smaay from another site.
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yeah, they looked good. my digi cam seems to be dyin on me so the first pic didnt come out too good. in the sunlight the screen washes out for some reason
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im doin stage 1 so i can use all the stock springs a retainers, so i dont have to remove the head right?
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well shit/...so all one really needs to do is pop open the valve cover, take out the other cams, put the new ones in and make sure everything is timed right???? I've never done an import, but I've lended a hand in a couple of chevy 350 buildups...
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Lucky/John... Could you maybe write an install on this?
Also any dynos yet?
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well it helps to have a toyota vehicle manual. it has the whole install already in there including all the torque specs lol but I guess when I do mine in a lil bit I could maybe take some pics and write something up for you guys lol
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and I'm uploading a short video clip of his car at idle. it sounds so freakin smooth. better then brand new even. if you didnt look at the intercooler or under the hood you'd swear the car was stock. you don't hear that typical valvetrain "tick".
we added the mwr springs/valves and cams. should be ready in a few minutes.
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I will have dynos for you guys shortly
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nice! cant wait, my cams finally supposedly got shipped out today
... how much is the toyota manual? or can i get it in pdf version ??
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I dunno. I stole my teamates lol
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thank god we have controlled inertia...and easyc
anyways mike or john: how long did it take you to install the cams? I have never ever done anything like this at all. Just curious to how long it took you
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hard to say since we did the valves/springs too. so the whole engine was removed.
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imma set asside the whole day, granted it wont take that long, but i dont feel like droping anything down there and having to remove the whole head, hehe
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hard to say since we did the valves/springs too. so the whole engine was removed. alright well thats cool... still its great having you guys here
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congrats to all of you fellas...I already have the MWR hardware am just gonna be looking to change the cams out. BTW John or Mike...yeah it sounds smooth...but did you notice anything performance wise from the cams???? or are you just gonna wait and dyno it...
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I just got done looking at the tech manual under the gallery section and WOW!!!!! Its gonna take me an entire DAY (making sure I really pay attention to detail)...it doesn't look like you have to remove the engine in order to just do the camshafts...or the crank pulley or anything like that...should be cool...for John, mike or illusive,...Am I right in that you don't have to remove the entire engine if you don't want to (I don't have a hoist and have never taken the engine out of my celica...very scary...and I am avoiding it altogether if I can help it)...I'll probably just take off the hood and head cover to do them...and of course the timing cover to get to the timing chain...it looks pretty straight forward, especially since I don't have to remove the head to do it...
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I got mine apart including takin pics and measuring all the shims in 2 hours last night. and no, I didnt remove the motor.
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wow...way to go man...sounds good...
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congrats to all of you fellas...I already have the MWR hardware am just gonna be looking to change the cams out. BTW John or Mike...yeah it sounds smooth...but did you notice anything performance wise from the cams???? or are you just gonna wait and dyno it... I haven't actually taken it for a spin yet. Currently the strut is broken, we are waiting on the piece in the mail to fix the strut. It should be here today or tomorrow at the latest. I will update how it feels once we fix the strut.
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OMG crower said they'd deffenity have it shiped out on wed, and now their saying they arnt done yet?? wtf bs john's got his installed
and i cant get through to Brian, all i wanna do is talk to him jeez, imma have a stroke if i dont start gettin some straight info from them!!!
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finally they got someone to go check shipping and i guess it has been sitting out there waiting to be shipped!!! so anyways they guarenteed me that it would be going out today for sure! i hope so
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well shit/...so all one really needs to do is pop open the valve cover, take out the other cams, put the new ones in and make sure everything is timed right???? I've never done an import, but I've lended a hand in a couple of chevy 350 buildups... you need to check valve clearance also with the new cams installed and make sure the gap is within spec, that can be found on a sticker under your hood :bow: theres a specific pattern you need to follow when removing the cam bridges, since toyota cams are hollow you can actually break the cam if removed improperly, theres also a retorq pattern and 2 different torq specs one for the main bridge that crosses both cams and another for the individual bridges for i/e there is also an easy trick to use for putting the cams back on with out having to pull the timing chain tensioner, but I'm not going to tell anyone that unless your a VERY experienced mechanic becuase if you do not know what you are doing you WILL break the timing chain slipper and that will require pulling the engine to fix.
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I always think of certain someone who broke the slipper the first time he tried it lol
I don't like to risk it so I just pull the tensioner out.
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I always think of certain someone who broke the slipper the first time he tried it lol
I don't like to risk it so I just pull the tensioner out. sucks that it happened but its good that we all learned from his experience
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W00t!!! my cams are in and they are prety!, i will take some pics tomorrow when i get home from school before i put them in.
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Best 60' 1.959 best 1/4 - 13.7 @ 101mph
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I hope you do a before/after dyno
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^^^ i meant i have them now, im not gunna put them in till tomorrow... LUCKYYY I NEED URHELP MAN!!! heheh i'll fly you up here first class and you can put them in for me ghegheheheh anyways wish me luck
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before and after dyno please...btw...what are your mods now so that if you don't dyno we can get an idea...
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^^^ i meant i have them now, im not gunna put them in till tomorrow... LUCKYYY I NEED URHELP MAN!!! heheh i'll fly you up here first class and you can put them in for me ghegheheheh anyways wish me luck I can do that hehe.
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well then get on it fellas
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im about half way done, im just having trouble gettin the cams out with the sprockets still atached, i dont wanna fuck up the timing, so i might wait for lucky to log on later tonight...
besides me doubting myself it has been easy
1) bring up to TDC
2) remove vave cover
3) verify that the TDC is on the compression stroke and dots match on cam sprockets
4) remove cam berring cap bolts
5)remove chain tensioner
6) remove cam shaft assemblies (where im stuck)!
7)
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it's just a few bolts holding the cams in, what's got you stuck ?
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just wondering how safe are aftermarket cams?does anything else in the motor need to be modified to have camshaft?I have a injen sri.any probs on running it on a stock motor and especially for a daily driver..?thanks
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FUCK YES! it's in and feels awesome, im auto and now it revs almost to redline before shifting! wooot ill givve it like a week before dyno so the ecu will get ahold of the new item
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FUCK YES! it's in and feels awesome, im auto and now it revs almost to redline before shifting! wooot ill givve it like a week before dyno so the ecu will get ahold of the new item stage 1 or 2?
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FUCK YES! it's in and feels awesome, im auto and now it revs almost to redline before shifting! wooot ill givve it like a week before dyno so the ecu will get ahold of the new item since silvaceli dyno'd his gt auto with exhaust @ 110whp i'm thinking with intake and cams you'll be around 120-ish...any bets?
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[quote=shoulin]since silvaceli dyno'd his gt auto with exhaust @ 110whp 111!!! What now. I am hoping he reaches 130 whp But regardless any improvement is a big improvement when its that low.
BETWEEN WHO YOU ARE AND WHO YOU COULD BE
BETWEEN HOW IT IS AND HOW IT SHOULD BE
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[quote=shoulin]since silvaceli dyno'd his gt auto with exhaust @ 110whp 111!!! What now. I am hoping he reaches 130 whp But regardless any improvement is a big improvement when its that low. i still say 120-ish...but the peak hp is not what matters...i want to see how it improved the power curve...if all is well i may think about going n/a when/if i get an mr-2 instead of a 2ZZ swap
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True. True. I was looking at that gts auto dyno with all the nitrous shots on it and he was making 154 whp (and 110? tq) without the shots. Im only making 153 whp but I would rape a non fi auto gts.
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110 - 120 whp is a very noticeable difference lol
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True. True. I was looking at that gts auto dyno with all the nitrous shots on it and he was making 154 whp (and 110? tq) without the shots. Im only making 153 whp but I would rape a non fi auto gts. well your power curve seems to be a lot better at the lower rpms than an auto gts...if you look at the auto gts it only makes 100whp max before lift...everyone knows that when the auto gts shifts it drops out from 7800rpm to 5000 rpm...that is teh suxors..
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110 - 120 whp is a very noticeable difference lol yes it's noticeable...but 120whp on a 2400lbs car is still meh...
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Live like a movie star, Drink like a rock star, F*** like a PORN STAR!!
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ya, it has nothing to do with the emission system
also fucking feels awesome car feels like a new car, the car does at 1/4 throttle what it use to floored, and you can imagine what the difference flooring it makes now..
hahha i cant even explain
hopfully i can dyno soon
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The question is....
"How far do you want to take your Toyota?"
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i need your help lucky, please
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so whats up with the cams?
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I'm tuning my car tomorrow, wont have any numbers just yet because we just doing street tuning. But will get an idea of how the car is running once tuned. Will get on a dyno shortly after just to fine tune it to try and extract extra power and then i will have some numbers.
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Hey guys iam sort of new Celica owner but i have done plenty of searching and working on my 2001 celica gt n I was just curious if the vvti adjust pretty well with crower stage 1 and how long it takes to adjust I been reading so far it does but I would like thoughts
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