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Using a heat shielded filter with a snorkel attachment going into the fender. The intake tube and filter sits inside the engine bay, the snokel attachment feeds into the fender. So you can easily inspect your filter regularly by just opening up the hood. This method would mean that there is no chance of the filter itself getting soaked. The snorkel would sit straight down, so it wouldn't catch water being splashed onto it. You'd have a true CAI setup with protection against hydrolock. I wonder if this setup would work with good results? What you guys think?
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looks like stock air box style ribs that would impeed airflow
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I was thinking the same thing but since i dont have the foglights. maybe runing the tip of the hose to the entrance of the foglight. sorta like a Ram Air type of set up.
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what if you submerged the snorkel into a deep enough puddle? wouldn't it just act like a straw then?
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^^ you could use a bypass, it would work with that sort of design.
i like broken dreams ram-air idea as well, it could be done...espeically if it was easy to attach/detach for driving in dry weather or wet weather.
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what if you submerged the snorkel into a deep enough puddle? wouldn't it just act like a straw then? That would be the same thing as getting your filter submerged in water. Either way your screwed. I'm totally feelin' the idea of putting it into a foglight hole, that's an amazing idea. The hole that the CAI intakes feeds into the fender, how big is that hole? Because i'm thinking that you can actually install something like this yourself without having to take off the front bumper.
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when using a ram air..just make sure you don't have too much air going in. your stock injectors SHOULD be fine and the stock ECU should compensate for the increased air..but for a precaution it wouldnt hurt to have an a/f gauge onboard as well as a fuel controller. better to have more fuel than more air...can't be worse than nitrous though (and wet & dry setups can use ur stock injectors & ecu).
if you do a ram-air your gonna want to easily attach/detach it though..so you'd prob have to use a two-filter design. or at least make the sri version filter easy to attach once you detach the ram-air portion.
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what size filter does the average cai or sri. i have an extra weapon r filter that can be used. i wanna see if i can try it. or was thinking about something like this but with out the square thing at the tip.
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i'm not exactly sure how it would all work...but it would be interesting to see.
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doesn't hydro lock mostly happen when it's completely submerged and that design would suck the same unless the cone attached to the filter was open sort of like a bypass and the air from the ducting was actually just blowing on the filter not being sucked up by it. I always thought a cool CAI would be one that wrapped around somehow to make use of the hood scoop for ram air. dunno if there's enough room under the hood for htat though..
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^^ that crossed my mind awhile back too (the hoodscoop as a ram-air).
and the whole point of the ram-air being easily attached/detached was to avoid hydrolock (in wet weather it would detach into a typical sri..in dry weather it would act as a ram-air where there was no chance of hydrolock).
and hydrolock doenst just happen when the filter is totally submerged...even if about 50% of the filter is submerged hydrolock has a chane to happen.
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If you had it pointing straight down, I don't think it'd get a lot of airflow.
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what I was thinking was to get a short intake, and run a hose from my foglight holes. I wouln't actually connect them to the air filter, but just about. It will bring cold air to the intake, there's no chance of water ever being sucked up, and it won't mess up my ECU. At the least, it will bring colder air to my intake, the ram air wouldn't be that substantial, but it may help a bit.
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