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Hood Flop at 120 MPH #438767 Apr 9, 6:27pm Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 400 Arkansas maingear Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica maingear Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 400 Arkansas Crossing a river bridge at 120 and the trailing edge of the hood begin to flutter so bad I thought it was going to come off! Is this what the hood spoiler is to prevent? I don't have one. Anyone with one equipped see it happen to their hood?

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH maingear #438768 Apr 9, 6:30pm Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 731 Rock, Pond g96818 Yoda Master g96818 Yoda Master Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 731 Rock, Pond

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH maingear #438769 Apr 9, 6:30pm Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 731 Rock, Pond g96818 Yoda Master g96818 Yoda Master Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 731 Rock, Pond my steering wheel vibrates above 60 mph

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH g96818 #438770 Apr 9, 6:31pm Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,289 Bay Area, NorCal CaLiGTS Phantom 2001 Toyota Celica CaLiGTS Phantom 2001 Toyota Celica Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,289 Bay Area, NorCal you need allignment^^BAD Ask yourself one question. Is the juice worth the squeeze?

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH CaLiGTS #438771 Apr 9, 6:36pm Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 731 Rock, Pond g96818 Yoda Master g96818 Yoda Master Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 731 Rock, Pond ^^ yea i gotta do that soon >_<

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH maingear #438772 Apr 9, 6:37pm Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 538 OKC,OK zugzug12 Senior Member zugzug12 Senior Member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 538 OKC,OK Originally Posted by maingear Crossing a river bridge at 120 and the trailing edge of the hood begin to flutter so bad I thought it was going to come off! Is this what the hood spoiler is to prevent? I don't have one. Anyone with one equipped see it happen to their hood? Dude, who is that in your profile??????? Rick James lost albino brother? "I will be merciful.........and quick!"

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH zugzug12 #438773 Apr 9, 6:40pm Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 41 Connecticut Grifter Member 2000 Toyota Celica Grifter Member 2000 Toyota Celica Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 41 Connecticut dude thats Billy Bob Thornton, in the movie SlingBlade

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH Grifter #438774 Apr 9, 7:47pm Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 538 OKC,OK zugzug12 Senior Member zugzug12 Senior Member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 538 OKC,OK Originally Posted by Grifter dude thats Billy Bob Thornton, in the movie SlingBlade Not the sig, look at his profile. "I will be merciful.........and quick!"

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH g96818 #438775 Apr 9, 7:55pm Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 10,110 Milford, NJ VSGTS14 05 WRB 2005 Subaru WRX STi VSGTS14 05 WRB 2005 Subaru WRX STi Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 10,110 Milford, NJ Originally Posted by g96818 my steering wheel vibrates above 60 mph you should see mine omg at like 80 it shakes my entire arm! SUBARU TECNICA INTERNATIONAL

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH VSGTS14 #438776 Apr 9, 8:01pm Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 400 Arkansas maingear Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica maingear Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 400 Arkansas I forgot to remove it...a pic of a opossum I hit last week .. a running joke. Thanks for reminding me, I forgot to change it! Seriously, anyone had their hood do that? It freaked me out and distracted me enough to pull over! Is this the reason for the hood spoiler? Last edited by maingear; Apr 9, 2005 8:10pm.

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH maingear #438777 Apr 9, 8:17pm Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 706 St. Augustine, Florida KickScrew Sideways 2003 Toyota Celica GTS KickScrew Sideways 2003 Toyota Celica GTS Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 706 St. Augustine, Florida Is your hood carbon fiber? You might want to invest in some hood pins

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH KickScrew #438778 Apr 9, 8:20pm Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 400 Arkansas maingear Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica maingear Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 400 Arkansas It's a factory hood, good question!

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH maingear #438779 Apr 9, 9:57pm Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 364 Corona, CA dansgts Member 1986 Toyota Celica dansgts Member 1986 Toyota Celica Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 364 Corona, CA wierd, mine dosent do shit going that fast, hell my car runs smooth as hell at that high a speed...

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH dansgts #438780 Apr 9, 10:23pm Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,029 California kmlgts Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica kmlgts Specialist 2000 Toyota Celica Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,029 California man.. i think your car is trying to fly..

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH kmlgts #438781 Apr 9, 10:40pm Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL Lol, yea you need hoodmpins. your oem latch maybe loose, check that. you coudl jsut get hoodpins bevasue they look cool too As for the hood spoliers they are not really funcitonal on any aspect that i am awair of. I have them and think they look spiffy, but dont really do anyhting.

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH hombredelassrtas #438782 Apr 9, 10:52pm Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 973 Pasadena, CA xXMaGNuSXx hookah-meister 2000 Toyota Celica GT xXMaGNuSXx hookah-meister 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 973 Pasadena, CA stupid question, but was your hood completely closed?

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH xXMaGNuSXx #438783 Apr 9, 10:54pm Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL Originally Posted by xXMaGNuSXx stupid question, but was your hood completely closed? Is a good question make sure there wasnt anyhting in the hood preventing it from closing, like tools, or oil containter

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH hombredelassrtas #438784 Apr 9, 10:54pm Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 116 Maine Avatar Member 2000 Toyota Celica Avatar Member 2000 Toyota Celica Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 116 Maine I'm pretty sure that the problem that you're having with the factory hood comming up is due to the lach not being securely being tightend or shut. If thats not it you should check the nuts and bolts that hold the hood down. All else fails try investing in a Carbon Fiber hood and Pins.

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH Avatar #438785 Apr 9, 11:28pm Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 400 Arkansas maingear Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica maingear Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 400 Arkansas My hood latch is fine, there has been no maintenance/mods to anything on/around the hood or structure. Hood has and is always properly secure! The front is secure, it was the trailing edge of the hood that was vibrating. There was no vibration transmitted into the stearing wheel or body. Area is clear of tools, hardware has not broken any paint to indicate rotation. My exterior front end is factory. Do you guys have hood spoilers? Keep the sugestions comming!

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH maingear #438786 Apr 9, 11:42pm Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL the hood spoiliers dont do anything if i were you i woudl spend some cash on hoodpins. wont be too much, will get cool hoodpin look and funcitonality

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH maingear #438787 Apr 9, 11:42pm Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 916 Alberta, Canada robare99 Senior Member 2003 Toyota Celica GT robare99 Senior Member 2003 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 916 Alberta, Canada That's strange. I hit 120 + fairly often and its just as smooth as can be, plus I have a VIS raised hoodscoop.

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH robare99 #438788 Apr 10, 12:18am Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 400 Arkansas maingear Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica maingear Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 400 Arkansas ^^^I'm like you I hit 120+ daily That's why I was flip'n out when it happoned! The river bridge is over 100' in the air and there was a cross wind. How will hood pins in the front keep the trailing edge from flaping? I went out and pulled on the hood scoop to get the hood to flex. Nothing in the front of the hood moves. The rear of the hood has a huge brace that crosses that trailing edge. The welds are good. I also checked the plastic piece that is under the wiper arms. It is secure. My panels under the car are installed! I guess I'll count it as a fluke! Thanks for all the input! Last edited by maingear; Apr 10, 2005 12:27am.

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH maingear #438789 Apr 10, 5:45am Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 31 Baltimore, Maryland freeGTS Member 2000 Toyota Celica freeGTS Member 2000 Toyota Celica Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 31 Baltimore, Maryland Mine flaps around a little bit also over a hindred. I checked on mine and the bolts that secure the hinges were a little bit loose. I tightened theose and it made a small difference I think, but I'm thinking it's more just the material flexing than anything else. I have all stock stuff too, no carbon, and no hoodpins, but then again, I think I'm actually the only one here who read your post in it's entirety and heard that it's the trailing edge, making hood pins completely not the point:) Tighten your hinge bolts maybe

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH freeGTS #438790 Apr 10, 5:54am Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 538 OKC,OK zugzug12 Senior Member zugzug12 Senior Member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 538 OKC,OK I never get to go over a hundred...yet! "I will be merciful.........and quick!"

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH zugzug12 #438791 Apr 10, 10:31am Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL wow yea i deff didnt read your whole post about it being the back of the hood vibrating. I swore mine was the other day going 90 but when i stopped a tried to shake it to see if it was loose but it wasnt. I think it was jsut in my head. I dont think there is anything wrong and you shouldnt really worry about it.

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH zugzug12 #438792 Apr 10, 3:59pm Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 400 Arkansas maingear Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica maingear Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 400 Arkansas Originally Posted by zugzug12 I never get to go over a hundred...yet! Dude you like in OK! I thought people could go for miles without seeing a cop! or are the roads too bad?

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH maingear #438793 Apr 10, 6:52pm Joined: May 2002 Posts: 125 Camarillo hi ho silver Member 02 Toyota Celica GT hi ho silver Member 02 Toyota Celica GT Joined: May 2002 Posts: 125 Camarillo your talking about the back end of the hood closest the windshield right? i have a carbon fiber hood and mine does that at like 60.. and yah my stock hood did that too.. i think it was faster than 60 tho.. i think its normal.. if not.. i dunno how to fix that Team Shoganai...

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH hi ho silver #438794 Apr 13, 12:20am Joined: May 2004 Posts: 409 Charleston, SC sweetnuts4sale Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica sweetnuts4sale Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica Joined: May 2004 Posts: 409 Charleston, SC yeah my carbon fiber hood shakes in the middle were the oem style scoop is. i think my problem is air resentance from the hole in the hood not allowing the air to flow easily enough. so i used a dremel and made the hole under the scoop to allow the air in the engine bay bigger, and i don't think it helped much if at all other than more air is getting to the engine. so i bought the raised hood scoop in hopes that it will help i have never heard of the ends shaking though, but i would most definetly check to see if the hinge bolts are tightened down

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH sweetnuts4sale #438795 Apr 13, 3:24am Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 172 COPPELL, TX CARBON_SYPHER Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT CARBON_SYPHER Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 172 COPPELL, TX shit...my car is rock solid at 120 mph...(and hood pins are a must for carbon fiber hoods at that speed)

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH maingear #438796 Apr 13, 4:01am Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 538 OKC,OK zugzug12 Senior Member zugzug12 Senior Member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 538 OKC,OK Originally Posted by maingear Originally Posted by zugzug12 I never get to go over a hundred...yet! Dude you like in OK! I thought people could go for miles without seeing a cop! or are the roads too bad? Yup! Roads are great, just an old man and I have'nt been outside the city yet, but when I do...I'm gonna let her eat! I'll watch the hood of course! "I will be merciful.........and quick!"

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH zugzug12 #438797 Apr 13, 3:40pm Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 400 Arkansas maingear Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica maingear Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 400 Arkansas UPDATE!!!!!! Cause of flutter is CROSSWIND!!!!!

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH hombredelassrtas #438798 Apr 13, 4:06pm Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 143 Corner, Al trikdcelica Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT trikdcelica Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 143 Corner, Al Originally Posted by hombredelassrtas Originally Posted by xXMaGNuSXx stupid question, but was your hood completely closed? Is a good question make sure there wasnt anyhting in the hood preventing it from closing, like tools, or oil containter haha that's so funny, but that has happened so many times to me. i've forgotten sockets and screwdrivers and wrenches under my hood. i get so anxious to see how my new parts work that i slam the hood and hit the road.

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH maingear #438799 Apr 13, 4:10pm Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 538 OKC,OK zugzug12 Senior Member zugzug12 Senior Member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 538 OKC,OK Originally Posted by maingear UPDATE!!!!!! Cause of flutter is CROSSWIND!!!!! I'm still gonna shoot my drawers if it happens to me! "I will be merciful.........and quick!"

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH zugzug12 #438800 Apr 14, 10:45pm Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 8 NY Celitified New Member 2001 Toyota Celica Celitified New Member 2001 Toyota Celica Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 8 NY This may be a stupid question, for Carbon Fiber hoods, do you just have someone drill holes for the hood pins? and...does anyone know some sites/places to look at Carbon Fiber hoods bc I want to get the OEM style or something similar...lemme know oh and pics, if anyone has close pics of a celica with one (my car is black so I wanna see wut it would look like) - C E L I T I F I E D

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH Celitified #438801 Apr 15, 4:31am Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL hood pins are not oem. They are those metal latches you see ontop of poeles carbon fiber hoods. U need 2 holes. because carbon fiber to so tempermental i woudl ahve a shop do it. There are aslo 2 spots under the hood where they shoudl attatch to so you need to make sure you get the right spot.I dont have them so somone with pins let me know if i missed anyhting. Most C/f hoods come with an oem style hood latch underneatch but becasue its attached to either c/f and/or fiberglass (dpending on if ur double sisded or not) it may not be strong enough which is why you need pins

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH maingear #438802 Apr 15, 4:55am Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 538 OKC,OK zugzug12 Senior Member zugzug12 Senior Member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 538 OKC,OK Originally Posted by maingear UPDATE!!!!!! Cause of flutter is CROSSWIND!!!!! Do you have a raised hood-scoop? I was installing mine and thought about the extra lift on the hood. Could that make it worse, I wonders... "I will be merciful.........and quick!"

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH zugzug12 #438803 Apr 15, 5:10am Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 30 Indiana X_Factor Member 2001 Toyota Celica X_Factor Member 2001 Toyota Celica Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 30 Indiana The hoodscoops definitely don't help the flop, thats for sure. The OEM hoods have no holes under the scoop for the air to pass through, so there is more resistance hence hood flop. Its a shame the way the engines are designed, ram air or cowl inducted air could help the motors out a lot.

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH X_Factor #438804 Apr 15, 5:14am Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 538 OKC,OK zugzug12 Senior Member zugzug12 Senior Member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 538 OKC,OK Agreed! "I will be merciful.........and quick!"

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH zugzug12 #438805 Apr 15, 5:39am Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2,971 Turlock, CA RookieGTS Boobie Vision 2000 Toyota Celica RookieGTS Boobie Vision 2000 Toyota Celica Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2,971 Turlock, CA yeah thats weird how your hood does that. I have a OEM style Carbon Fiber hood and i go over those speeds you guys just discussed and i witness no hood vibration of any sort

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH maingear #438806 Apr 15, 3:01pm Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 405 Edgewater, Colorado RyOlSe Senior Member 2001 Toyota Celica RyOlSe Senior Member 2001 Toyota Celica Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 405 Edgewater, Colorado are you talking about the front of your hood or the back? because the back of mine tends to vibrate too. [/color]

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH RyOlSe #438807 Apr 15, 4:42pm Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL back, and yea mine does

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH hombredelassrtas #438808 Apr 15, 6:34pm Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 400 Arkansas maingear Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica maingear Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 400 Arkansas back / trailing edge yea! (talk so much aircraft jargon, I forget to speak english sometimes sorry ) If one was to hook up some SCAT hose to the hood scoop after cuting a hole in it, and connecting it to a short intake pipe, would the engine get hydrolock in a down pour? Hydrolock is caused ONLY by snorting water puddles right?!

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH maingear #438809 Apr 15, 7:29pm Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica hombredelassrtas CF Connoisseur 2004 Toyota Celica Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,744 Gainesville, FL well becsaue the water woudl go down the hose into the intake i am sure it would do that as well. not sure what a scat hose is but the idea has been discussed previously yet noone has done it. go for it buddy

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH hombredelassrtas #438810 Apr 15, 8:34pm Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 400 Arkansas maingear Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica maingear Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 400 Arkansas http://www.hbdthermoid.com/aircraft_ducting.htm -hose http://www.quickcar.net/cooling/cp_nacaduct.html http://www.butlerbuilt.net/nacaducts.html This hose is cool stuff. It is used all the time in general aviation engine intakes (in such applications)! Last edited by maingear; Apr 15, 2005 8:35pm.

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH maingear #438811 Apr 15, 10:01pm Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 39 Washington trdmsprts27 Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT trdmsprts27 Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 39 Washington It would be cool to make a ram air intake but the hood scoop is designed to let air run down the back of the engine to cool the header. i looked into it awhile ago but i ran into the same problem. Also ive done around a 100 with a raised hood scoop and never noticed a movement in my hood. you might just have something loose or you had something under the hood to keep it from closing all the way.

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH trdmsprts27 #438812 Apr 15, 10:08pm Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 400 Arkansas maingear Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica maingear Senior Member 2002 Toyota Celica Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 400 Arkansas it's all good with no cross wind. The clearance under the hood for routing to the scoop is almost imposable!!

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH Celitified #438813 Apr 16, 11:55am Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1 Duxbury, Massachusetts EvilGTS New Member 2000 Toyota Celica EvilGTS New Member 2000 Toyota Celica Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1 Duxbury, Massachusetts i got a carbon fiber oem hood on my car. it looks good, but i didn't put hood pins on yet. i'm gonna try to sell my oem carbon fiber hood so i can get the carbon fiber evo hood. the company that makes my hood is fiber images. the hood was about $700 brand new. i'm gonna hopefully get about $400 for it. all it needs is a clearcoat. i have a pic of the hood on my carbon blue celica, but the pic quality is shitty

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH EvilGTS #438814 Apr 16, 12:29pm Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 706 St. Augustine, Florida KickScrew Sideways 2003 Toyota Celica GTS KickScrew Sideways 2003 Toyota Celica GTS Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 706 St. Augustine, Florida Just a heads up but carbon fiber hodds are EXTREMELY dangerous without hood pins.

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH X_Factor #438815 Apr 16, 5:30pm Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 143 Corner, Al trikdcelica Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT trikdcelica Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 143 Corner, Al Originally Posted by X_Factor The hoodscoops definitely don't help the flop, thats for sure. The OEM hoods have no holes under the scoop for the air to pass through, so there is more resistance hence hood flop. Its a shame the way the engines are designed, ram air or cowl inducted air could help the motors out a lot. what? are you just talkin about the carbon fiber version? my stock hood has a about 4" X 8" opening under my hood scoop.

Re: Hood Flop at 120 MPH trikdcelica #438816 Apr 16, 5:35pm Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 143 Corner, Al trikdcelica Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT trikdcelica Member 2000 Toyota Celica GT Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 143 Corner, Al i tried the forced air intake. its not really forced air, but ram air. i was goin to try to route the air from my hood scoop to my cai. i did do that, but it was routed to my front grill. it didn't work though. there was no difference.

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