Celica Forums General Discussion Engine and Performance goals for my 2000 GTS

My goals for my 2000 gts is to hit 300 horse power. As of right now i have AEM Cold Air Intake, DC Headders, and a Thermal Cat-Back. That has me up at around 225-230 horsepower range. Now, I was thinkin of getting a 75 shot of nos to bump it up to 300, but i'd have to beef up the engine first. It can safely handle a 50 shot, which would bump it up to 275-280 hp. That leaves 25 more hp for me to get. What kind of quick, good mods can i get to reach the 300 horse power mark? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Hey buddy...you may want to get that to the dyno machine...because there is no way in hell that you have that much horsepower that weak shit. Sorry for being so blunt but it's true and I can't stop laughing at you! Try getting a turbo or supercharger...

yeah man i'm sorry but yeah, you are seriously wrong. there is no way that you could possibly have that much horsepower to the wheels, maybe to the crank but i dought it. i just had mine dynoed about two weeks ago at 165 and the only thing you have more than me is headers. headers wont give you 50 horsepower. sorry.

ya man no way...look at the #'s

stock-160 lets say
aem cold air- about 5 HP (maybe)
thermal cat back- MAYBE 10
DC headers= NO GAIN

ok...u want 300 HP...go turbo...if you wanan go n/a...

keep the intake
trash the header (wait for TPR header...you might gain)
thermal cat back---not 2 sure
get a apexi power FC...get it tuned right and ur car will be good
uh...theres a start for n/a...pry put you at about...

id say to the wheels...ball park...w/o header

about 190 whp...you have quite a way 2 go...

some1 correct me if im wrong...

^^ agree

turbo is the only cost effective to get those numbers stage 2 might get you close

Thanks for the responses, but i never said that i have that kind of power at the wheels. Of course i know that i don't have that at the wheels, but i've had several professionals tell me that each part alone adds about 8-10 horse power, but when you get them working together they add a lot more. If you got the intake, adding a gauranteed 18 horse power i might add, suckin in more air, you got the headers now pumpin out more exaust, because the intake is bringin in more air,into the cat-back. I've had several professionals tell me this. Any way, i just want recommendations for 25 horsepower.

It's time to find some better "professionals"

agreed

It goes against common sense, but whenever you add on more mods, it lowers the increase in horsepower. If you have an intake and exhaust, and then add on a header, you gain about 1 whp. If you have no mods and add on the header, you gain almost 10 whp. And an intake does not add a "gaurenteed 18 horse power". An auto loses about 23 percent through the drivetrain and a manual loses about 15 percent on the celica. So take your numbers and do the math, your really far off.
As far as gaining another 25 horsepower, you will want to look into the new cams that are coming out by TPR. Like everyone said, if you want a chance of 300 hp, you need to get a turbo and build up your internals.

it all matters how much HP you put to your wheels...not what you "Think" you have.

also...since you have a GTS with the DC headers...

many dynos show that you really lose HP throughout the power band.

As for the intake,it DOES add 18 horse power. You can check the specs on it. http://www.aempower.com/product_intake_app.asp. The aem cold air intake gaurantees 18 horse power w/ 15 lbs of torque. And as for the lowering the increase in performance w/ the more parts i mod, i still don't get it. I feel dumb, but you have to explain that again. Thanks again for all your input.

this i so great. I am sorry but the only way you are going to get to those number effectively at whp or crank is with turbo. And yea as they all said, the headerrs for GTS have been proven to have no gain. if anyhtign ur currently at about 200 at the crack get PFC to gain some more but realistically you need turbo. you cna do turbo and nos then get some better number

Port your stock header. Sell your DC Header and use the money for something else.

I'll sell you a chip.

You are a definition of a RICER. Why don't you just get those intakes that look like intercoolers? They are mounted at the front so more air would be pushed in right?

Your car right now is probably somewhere around 170-175WHP. Add on 15% and that would give you around 200BHP. So whoever is telling you that those mods are giving you those gains, ask them to prove it to you. Tell them to dyno it for you or whatever. They will sway anything to sell their product to you.

hey, weirdthief. I'm interested in buyin your chip. Do you got a screen name on AIM so we can talk over it privately?

Oh god i hope ur joking

LOL put me down for on of the chips to

i hope those are potato chips...

I'll sell you some stickers and duct tape. They will make your tires sticky for the lauch. Lets say 60 Shipped. I GOT AIM.

want some decals? they give you more hp

btw isn't the stock gts 180 hp

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i think he ment whp but not sure

^^ yep man...160 to the wheels...sorry i was in comp. class and i wanted 2 write it quickly... ...

anyways guys/girls on this site who arent beginners...lets be a LITTLE easy on him...maybe hes got no clue what hes doing...we were all like that once...i mean lets show him the RIGHT way 2 do things...and wiredthief.are you TRYING to get the guy flamed to no end?? come on man...lets take this chance to help the person...not fuck with their heads

2000gts2000..ok mod chips on celica's DONT work...you need the greddy emangage or the apexi power FC like i said...trust me then you MIGHT be up around 190 HP to the wheels...which isnt bad...

dont get n2o dude...i say this b/c ur still new and if you dont no what ur doing you can fuck shit up...NOT good...so wait until ur sure about shit 2 do shit...im gunna go out for a bit ill be back and maybe add more...

good luck

Well said carl, yea i felt kinda bad after posting The boards can be a harsh place if you dont know what ur talking about. the other celi site is worse though

If you have any questions 2000gts2000 feel free to PM me. I may not knwo what i am talking about but i can lead you to someone or somplace that does. hopefully this post didnt push you away from ecelica.

Welcome to the fam buddy and goodluck on modds

lol..guys, leave the poor kid alone..the only way you are going to get those numbers is buy adding the turbos..check out www.c2power.com [c2power.com] and www.monkeywrenchracing.com [monkeywrenchracing.com]


As for the chip, he was just messing with you

i know im a noobie but i just gotta say it... NOOOOOB

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^^ its just AEM's dyno...from the website...

ya man...just do what i said up top (for n/a) OR do turbo...like pick what you want and since you want 300 HP...just save up for the turbo...since ur gunna have 2 replace a TON of shit anyways...uh if ya got any ??'s PM me and ill try to help

I knew this thread would be good for a laugh.

our car sucks for moddding. you can get a good 20whp off adding an exhaust and headers to an 80hp honda civic which is huge gains, but it's because the stock exhaust sucks so much. I think the major problem with our car is that it's already a 1.8 180hp naturally aspirated engine. that's pretty damned good for naturally aspirated thats 100hp per liter without a turbo. so it's already engineered really well it's hard to improve upon it, and when you try you get very small results and at a cost such as hydrolock bogging in case of intake or added weight in cases of some exhausts. so yeah if you put an intake on a different car you can probably get 18 crank hp but on ours realistically 8 crank and 5 wheel. the only way your going to see 300crank hp is going to be a turbo, if you spend a lot of money you might be able to see 200something maybe 240 if you spend a ton, get the tpr cams for 1200 when they come out, bump the compression on the pistons up to 12.5 instead of 11.5, intake, headers, kazuma exhaust, and Power FC, port and polish on your heads, but then your at over what you'd pay for a turbo that'd give you more the tally on these naturally aspirated items is around 5k or more. Nitrous is a good cheap option for a lot of extra HP and it'll give you about the same HP gains as a stage 1 turbo safely, so your right in the nitrous department I think, you can deffinately hit a pretty high crank hp mark with some nitrous, but it's only fun for drag racing 'cause you can't be spraying all the time unless you've got like a 100lb nos tank filling up your back seats and trunk.

I only reason why I flamed him is because we wouldn;t listen to any of our advice. The first couple of posts were telling him that he wouldn't gain that much or he doesn't have that much. But he was being stubbern and wouldn't listen. So why would you go on a forum and ask question but won't listen to the inputs? If he think those "PROFESSIONALS" were actually helping him out, then why not just ask them for help. The person that probably told him a header would work really well with I/E probably don't even own a Celica and just thought it would. Yes it probably would work well on other cars like Hondas but not Celicas, it is DYNO proven that it doesn't work well.

Also if this is true, then why do people go for turbos? If I/H/E together add up to 30-40 HP. Why go turbo and boost @5-8PSI?

damn people be nice to the noob

i mean he even admited he doesn't know anything about cars...


one thing to remember is are cars don't respond as well as honda's do to mod... i mean according to DC the intake header and exhaust gains 18 hp on a RSX but for a celica ur luck to get 12hp... header for the celicagts don't really work i don't know why but they just don't

the best mod for the celica gts is the Apex-i Power FC but that cost about 1000 bucks... you need to talk to lucky317 he knows the most about the gts

i hope no one scared you aways... this is supose to be a friendly site

Hey man if you really wanna get serious about engine works check the other site new celica dot org under forced induction. they should pretty much be able to help you with PFC tuning, NO2, turbo, and etc...

I got a great idea, If i throw my fat ass girlfriend out the passanger seat, I could probably beat those pesky Oldsmobile Cutless's off the line with ease!!!

^^^ that made no sense at ALL...

more frontal traction

LOL. Let's be easy on this guy.

First off, you ain't putting down 225 to the crank. That would be about 190whp to the wheels, and only a couple people have attained that.

Secondly, whoever said GTS's don't respond as well to mods as Hondas is dead wrong. It's actually the opposite. I've never ever ever seen any honda engine make 32 whp anywhere in the power band from an axle back exhaust.

As for actual power you're making. I put down about 200 to the crank (175 wheel) with my TPR I/E...and thats the best performing exhaust and intake. So for you, I'd estimate about the same.

Oh yea, and there is no chip. lol. Don't let them get to ya.

this guy is ridiculous...

I want chips!!! Nacho Cheese Please!!!

OMG why is this site filled with so many dumb people?????????

dude...they are not dumb...they just haven't been educated about this type of mechanics.

Not to offend the select few that are knowledgeable...but this post cracks me up.

lol..i'm sorry but does anyone see anything wrong with this post??
the last time i check our celi only have 1 HEADER..

^^^ hey man i said it right...