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Ok, well, I have a gts and im really considering on getting the XS Turbo kit. I was wondering if anyone has any idea of how the tranny reacts to the kit? Should I be expecting problems with my stock tranny?? ![confused confused](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/confused.gif) Thanks guys! ![wave wave](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/wave.gif)
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Well first off dont get the XS kit. Get the SF or the JPR kits. And they come programed for a stock motor so it is good.
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Why not XS??? From what ive read it looks like its the most complete kit out there. Or am I mistaken?? ![confused confused](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/confused.gif)
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From what I've heard there had been nothing but problems from that kit everyone loves the sf kit though.
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From what I've heard there had been nothing but problems from that kit everyone loves the sf kit though. I hear the same. The only complaint I hear about SF is that they take a while to ship their kits, but its worth the while.
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C2gas's kit is also good.
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C2Gas is the only way to go! Read up about the kits! You won't read one bad thing about C2Gas's KIT!
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how many topics on this are you goign to make?
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my bad, i posted it here and under tuning and under any topic. My bad ![frown frown](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/frown.gif) Its my first time doing this so i was a little lost, sorry if i posted it twice! but thanks for the tips guys and gals ![thumbsup thumbsup](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/thumbsup.gif)
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i cant find any topics on c2gas kit
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XS = dog crap. better worry about problems other then your tranny with them for more info on c2gas you'll want to check out the "other" celica site that we cant mention here. SF takes a lil while to ship because he's got a small shop and the kits are not mass produced. I have liked what I've seen from the SF kits ![smile smile](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/smile.gif)
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I don't think I should be saying this but go to N ewcelica.org For all your info on kits.. ECeliac doesnt have any good topic's on kits.. Go there
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n ewcelica.org is run by bluebatmobile if im not mistaken...so i dont think its bad if you mention it lol ![thumbsup thumbsup](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/thumbsup.gif)
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n ewcelica.org is run by bluebatmobile if im not mistaken...so i dont think its bad if you mention it lol ![thumbsup thumbsup](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/thumbsup.gif) you would be mistaken. the "other" site is run by larry D who doesnt like me much but I post there anyways cause I'm sure it irritates him ![smile smile](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/smile.gif) lol
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take a look at http://www.jrponline.com/gallery/gts.asp they are claiming their gts gets 295 to the wheels before fueling adjustments
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DAAAAMN THAT SHIT LOOKS NICE I coulnt find anything on the C2 either, but ill check out that other site. Thanks LUCKY ![thumbsup thumbsup](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/thumbsup.gif)
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Here is the C2Gas Site - www.c2power.com [ c2power.com] These guys know what there doing! I'd trust them overa anyone! As far as the JRP is isn't finished yet and I don't know if you wanna buy a BRAND NEW product.. You might want to wait abit and get some of the feedback on them.. You never know what problems the kit may have.. Thats a lot of HP for a stock celica... Interenals and tranny might not be able to hold! I fact I know that they won't!
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my problem with c2gas 's kit is that it just doesnt look like it will hold up under a lot of abuse. the flanges look very thin and weak. Not a good idea for people who plan on beating up the car at the track. The SF kits I know for a fact can take the abuse because we've put it through hell lol.
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But the thing with SF and Yea there parts have been through hell.. Have you seen some of the pictures on the "other" site about how they come after shipping.. I just don't know if they are the most reliable.
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the only thing I knew of that had a few issues was the fuel rail. was missing something from the kit.
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I went to check out the C2 but is it me? or do they only have a kit for the 1zz???? ![cry cry](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/cry.gif) I couldnt find anything for the 2zz... btw, that manifold design they have going is f****n kick ass!!!! ![thumbsup thumbsup](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/thumbsup.gif)
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They are currently fab. the 2zz. I will be out very soon!
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everyone does the GT first cause its easier lol
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xs kits have few problems, its just the stock gts tranny is weak as shit, any Turbo kit thats put to it blows it up unless you upgrade everything for the power being produced
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hmm my teamate had the XS kit first and that thing was poop ![wink wink](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/wink.gif) switched to the SF kit and it worked ALOT better. his stock tranny is in better condition then mine he's had 240+ whp for a looooong time. last dyno was 277 and 204 tq the tranny isnt all that bad now when you abuse it like I do after having it rebuilt by the dealer you will have issues.
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^^ not if you run a low psi.. You can run like 5psi on stock internals and not risk blowing your engine but your tranny won't hold for very long... It might but it is risky. Celica tranny's suck at holding power from what i've read I wouldn't test that either... I'd rather just be safe and upgrade everyone does the GT first cause its easier lol What about JRP? Gt Turbo is easier though.. Less things to work about. Its just a plain up motor.. Hell they could copy the Jetta 1.8t if they wanted..
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^^ not if you run a low psi.. You can run like 5psi on stock internals and not risk blowing your engine but your tranny won't hold for very long... It might but it is risky. hes had his car Turboed for over a year now. same tranny and plenty of track days. ![smile smile](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/smile.gif) plus a daily driver most of the time. tranny is fine. JRP is still prototype and isnt out yet as far as I know. (could be wrong) I dont check up on them often.
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i heard the stock trainy can hold 300hp but not so mutch torque
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hes had his car Turboed for over a year now. same tranny and plenty of track days. ![smile smile](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/smile.gif) plus a daily driver most of the time. Damn I want his car! haha What kidna psi is he running?
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^^ between 8-11 before but the car is getting a few upgrades right now the goal is to have all of our cars back up and goin with thier new mods by november 13.
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^^^ gotta keep me posted cause im gettin ready for my engine build and custom Turbo... I wanna run like 12psi... If not more.. Must keep me updated!
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XS KIT looks good to me...then again thats what ive ordered...First Gen kits were bad...2nd gen I hear no problems...plus only 8psi...and apex power fc, replacement ecu...I know of 2 people in SO-CAl with the XS kit and heard no problems..one guy added 30,000 mile on the Turbo kit and still running strong...i did research on other forums on the jrp Turbo and i heard that the tranny couldnt handle the HP...dood...295...
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^^ wish you the best of luck then lol with the power fc pre-programming is rarely final.
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Thats true i must agree...Do you have the Stafford Kit for the GTS? I need some good a$$ reviews if im going to switch..just because you know anyone and everyone wants to have the best Turbo out there...
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where you from in CA? I dont have a Turbo but 3 of my teamates have switched to SF and I have seen only good things from it ![smile smile](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/smile.gif) 1 of them in particular had the XS kit and switched over. theres a big demand on the SF kits right now so it's taking a lil while for people to get their kits. definitely worth the wait IMO. once you start adding the alchohol injection and stuff that kit can put down some serious power.
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Yes i am in CA...but anyhow...i was reading up on this C2GAS kit...and sounds pretty legit...Stage 2 would be interesting to see...as for the STAFFORD kit...HAA HAA HAA HAA what a joke..who would want to deal with them if people who ordered there kits in March and still havent received there kit...Very Very Bad customer service.. There kits may be cool but good luck of getting through to them...thats too bad..they could of made a lot more money than what there making now.
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is there any way anyone can post pics or clips of their friends Turbo'd celis??(Lucky)(Arch) ![grin grin](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/grin.gif) Im in Rosemead in Cali and who knows, if you guys dont mind, my car can hopefully be as tight as urs?? ![thumbsup thumbsup](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/thumbsup.gif) Im still stock, but like i said, its kinda hard to install shit in your car when your fucken half a world away ![cry cry](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/cry.gif)
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JRP is currently looking for a 00+ Celica to 2nd test there Turbo kit... And you only pay for parts. http://www.jrponline.com/
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About C2power kits. Imagine we live in Europe, and these kits being tested in europe, we have 80mph speed limit here, and no speed limit at all in Germany, these cars been tested running excess 150MPH for long runs, i guess that is a lot more then what you can push out of your car in the US. We also have a GTS prototype now, and we will start selling GTS kits very soon, actually i can allready take pre orders for GTS, or ship GT kits in 2 weeks. look at some picture we got and ask questions if you need answers. ![[Linked Image from c2design.hu]](http://www.c2design.hu/celica/header/header2.jpg)
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prototype GTS header and Turbo installed on the engine: ![[Linked Image from c2design.hu]](http://www.c2design.hu/celica/Soceur/gtsheader.JPG)
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Finished stage2 install whit apexi filter, look at how clean, and simple, almost stock looking it is: ![[Linked Image from c2design.hu]](http://www.c2design.hu/celica/Brian/turboinstalled.jpg)
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nice lookin GT ![smile smile](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/smile.gif)
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n ewcelica.org is run by bluebatmobile if im not mistaken...so i dont think its bad if you mention it lol ![thumbsup thumbsup](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/thumbsup.gif) you would be mistaken. the "other" site is run by larry D who doesnt like me much but I post there anyways cause I'm sure it irritates him ![smile smile](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/smile.gif) lol LOL ![rofl rofl](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/rotf.gif) funny, but true. it's quite difficult to get banned there.
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especially for me ![smile smile](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/smile.gif) I've pushed it close a couple times lol worst that happened was a 1 week ban ![rofl rofl](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/rotf.gif)
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are you still selling the GT kit next summer? and can you innstall it and if so ho mutch for innstall? ![grin grin](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/grin.gif)
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ok nice ![thumbsup thumbsup](https://celicahobby.com/forums/images/graemlins/celica/thumbsup.gif)
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ok... straight out of the box...for every kit whats the horsepower on it? sf kit is good but why? with tunning which kit will have the most power? XS kit comes with basically everything you need but can you still tune it and get more power? sf kit comes with? what else do you need to get if you got the sf kit? does c2 come with everything like XS kit? need answers because im goin to order my kit this week and im heading towards XS unless someone changes my mind
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ok... straight out of the box...for every kit whats the horsepower on it? sf kit is good but why? with tunning which kit will have the most power? XS kit comes with basically everything you need but can you still tune it and get more power? sf kit comes with? what else do you need to get if you got the sf kit? does c2 come with everything like XS kit? need answers because im goin to order my kit this week and im heading towards XS unless someone changes my mind Have a look on our basic install guide [ c2design.hu] and part list. You will see what you get.
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