Ok just so everyone knows. This dyno was done a third party not a part of TPR. I lended this guy an exhaust and Intake to do dyno comparisons between the TPR and TRD exhausts. Both runs were done on the same GTS. Both had the TPR Intake as well. I took this picture of the dyno that he posted to post here. There is a thread in the Performance section of new celica.org from him. Anyway here it is. Blue is TPR, Red is TRD...
TPR Intake! - Injens high end with AEM's low end and NO BOGGING! TPR EXHAUST! - Exhaust made 10.5 whp peak and 32 whp at 6300 on my car!!!
What are those gains over stock...or...what are the gains for the exhaust alone over stock. Are TPR Intakes and exhaust street legal for both emissions as well as the 95db limit on the exhaust?
mike, he told me that you were only available on the weekends??
Just so theres no confusion. The blue line is a dyno of TPR Intake and TPR exhaust, the red is a dyno of TPR Intake and TRD exhaust...
There is a group buy goin on over at New Celica.org ... if you would like to hop in on one, PM me.
TPR Intakes are street legal, just not carb legal. TPR exhausts are street legal and carry a 90 db test. 95 is the legal limit and TRD is 88, so you cant really hear a difference in loudness...
TPR exhausts are also CARB legal because they do not affect any emissions equipment. The exhaust dynoed a 10.5hp peak gain on a stock GTS, with even more power gained below peak.
The very first production exhausts are almost finished being assembled for the first GB. Here are a couple pics of the unfinished prototype:
www.new [new] celica.org/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=2107055 (ditch the space in new celica)
The actual production exhausts will be fully polished to a mirror shine like the muffler, will have a different tip, thicker mounting brackets, and a flange to make it a true bolt on exhaust. The only real things that will stay the same from the prototype are the muffler and the piping shape, assuring that the production exhausts will have same Performance as in the dyno.
i tried to order tpr and was told the price went up and he would contact me when i could buy an Intake...this was 3 months ago...
Yup, long story behind that. First off, about the long wait:
Basically, the original TPR machinist in MA screwed us over by working at slower than a snail's pace, then bent like 4 of our Intakes in a day (even trashed our designs for an underpanel ). So we promptly canned him and started a search for a better shop. We finally found a great one in CA with lots of connections in the industry. Next up was updating the design of the Intakes to fit and work better, since we had so many more resources at hand with the new shop.
The end result: strong stainless steel Intakes with adjustable mounting brackets for the best fit possible (both firsts for any Celica Intake! ), a custom made-for-TPR silicone coupler, and a custom made-for-TPR K&N filter with more filter area than the average K&N filter, and dual venturis to substantially improve airflow (also something not found on any other Celica Intake). The MAFS fins (yes, another first for the Celica! ) are also cast into the pipe instead of welded for superior durability.
The price increase:
There just wasn't enough of a profit being made at $150 to be able to start research on this exhaust (or the future TPR headers, midpipe, and internals). TPR didn't even have enough money for the initial stock vs TPR exhaust dyno (the above is an independent dyno done by Red01GTS from NCelica.org) at the time (all the Intake profits were used up making the TPR exhaust prototype), but we were lucky since EasyC had a hook up at a local dyno shop so he got a free run in. Still, the prices on TPR parts are lower than their competitors, and their Performance and reliability are tops in their respective categories.
The future:
Our shop is ready to send out the Intake prototype to EasyC this week, and as soon as he approves it, production will start. The pre-ordered polished Intakes will be made first (fastest to make), then the other colors. After production starts, there will be ZERO wait for the Intakes to be produced, since this new shop can handle high volume orders. Same goes for the TPR exhaust: they're already being made before payment comes in for GB1, so the only wait you'll ever have is for the GB to fill up. The first GB is already full, and the second one has started.
so when i have my smog check done i wont have to worry about takn the TPR exhaust off?
I can't see why it would cause any problems. It won't increase exhaust emissions, or decrease them for that matter. As long as the place you go to doesn't hate non-OEM parts, you'll be fine.
Originally Posted by Polykarb
These new TPR products are looking badass so far, great job!
This is only the beginning.
Originally Posted by cycocelica
GT dyno?
Nope, sorry. Looks like Red01GTS only had a GTS to test. We were originally planning on dynoing one of EasyC's friend's GTs when he was on vacation a while back, but the dyno shop had to reschedule.
So we've established the fact that TPR is one of the best street legal exhuast systems as far as gains are concerned.
How does the sound of the TPR compare with TSRM? You almost have me sold. If anyone could describe it or sound clip comparison, I would appreciate that very much.
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damn some one buy my Intake so i can start my project with tpr products
the question is, now that everyone knows injen losses so much power down low, who would buy it at a decent price of over 130 bucks.
Hell, people have known that about the Injen CAI for years, yet they still bought it. It's better because it makes 2-3 more hp than AEM for about 500 RPMs, and who drives below 7500 anyway? As long as you start the car at 6000 RPM every time you move from a start and stay in lift all the time, you'd never know the difference between Injen and AEM.
So we've established the fact that TPR is one of the best street legal exhuast systems as far as gains are concerned.
How does the sound of the TPR compare with TSRM? You almost have me sold. If anyone could describe it or sound clip comparison, I would appreciate that very much.
I'd say they sound pretty similar from the sound clips (never heard Tanabe or TPR in real life), but TPR is deeper, and quieter by 3dB. Here are sound clips from Turbo Magazine's Celica exhaust comparison:
damn some one buy my Intake so i can start my project with tpr products
the question is, now that everyone knows injen losses so much power down low, who would buy it at a decent price of over 130 bucks.
Hell, people have known that about the Injen CAI for years, yet they still bought it. It's better because it makes 2-3 more hp than AEM for about 500 RPMs, and who drives below 7500 anyway? As long as you start the car at 6000 RPM every time you move from a start and stay in lift all the time, you'd never know the difference between Injen and AEM.
wipe your mouth...you're dripping with sarcasm...lol
why not let lucky dyno them since we all trust him?
i don't know if that is possible. there was a a slap fight incident in new celica...lol
LOL, some people just can't accept that there may be a product that performs better than the one they already have on thier cars. Especially if it doesn't have a name brand sticker on it like AEM, TRD, or Injen. There are TWO dynos now on TWO separate cars, and both show the same area of gains. Yet people think that they're both tampered with. Anyone on here care to dyno their cars with the TPR exhaust when they get it?
damnnnnn i cant wait to get the Intake, someone wants to buy my INJEN Intake, i hope i can sell it by next month, im so fucking exited about TPR (i love you guys) no im not fucking gay im just fucking happy that my dreams are finally coming true
WOW not bad at all.. I think I'll keep an Eye on the TPR.. thats incredible getting this reading over the TRD.. hum thats nice.. well lucky for me, I don't have an Exhaust yet.. better save up for this one.. but how much are they going to be??? and do you have a dyno test on the CAI?? Nice work, It looks to be very promising..
I have started to mob my car.. but I'm doing reseach on the parts that I want to get.. I can't just put something in there just cause of the brand... every piece that you mod makes an effect... It all depends on the type of Race that you are going to run.. If the course is a full strech.. then by all means install parts that would give you high end power... but if you are going to play in a course that have a lot of twist, then your best weapon is acceleration.. so go ahead and install your AEM CAI, DC Sport 421 headers, and your TRD Exhaust.. hehe...
PS: I still want to see the Dyno Test on the TPR CAI...
so wath is in this tpr exhaust is it with tip and every thing,??? i have a lot of mony on my hand now so i must use it up before i just wast them on the town or somthing
no pulleys, i dont like those, header yes. There are goin to be many many products coming out shortly so people may wanna save some cash ...like i said, our N/A goal is 275 whp
TPR Intake! - Injens high end with AEM's low end and NO BOGGING! TPR EXHAUST! - Exhaust made 10.5 whp peak and 32 whp at 6300 on my car!!!
no pulleys, i dont like those, header yes. There are goin to be many many products coming out shortly so people may wanna save some cash ...like i said, our N/A goal is 275 whp
no pulleys, i dont like those, header yes. There are goin to be many many products coming out shortly so people may wanna save some cash ...like i said, our N/A goal is 275 whp
I/E/H, what else? well cams would be nice! i need more money
How bout a true 4-2-1 long tube race header (not like those weak OEM style ones from Trial and DC)! Plus a matching midpipe with a high flow cat and resonator!
Cool, i am in jersey so I could just pick up right? when do you expect everything to be ready, i've been wanting to get the TRD exhaust on my GT but you have now got me sold on TPR
but how much are they going to be??? and do you have a dyno test on the CAI??
They cost $450 plus shipping. On Red01GTS' car, the TPR CAI and exhaust made 179hp (dyno in first post of this thread).
Originally Posted by Chico
so go ahead and install your AEM CAI, DC Sport 421 headers, and your TRD Exhaust.. hehe...
TPR I/E by itself beats most I/H/E combos, in low and top end, and possibly midrange (where headers help the most).
wow $450 Not bad.. for those readings.. Its an excellent price... I will assure you that you'll have a lot of people suporting you if you keep having fare prices like that... and so far is making an excellent impresion.. keep it up...
PS: Pray to God to suport you and to bless you... When God opens the door; noone can close it... But when he closes the door; Noone can open them.. Amen...
Hum the TPR CAI, it has good readings as well.. but what makes it so interresting, is the ability to turn it into a Short Ram... Not bad guys...
PS: You guys got really close with Injen.. (not bad) ^_^
That's not the main selling point of the CAI, though. All other Intakes cause bogging and CELs on a large percentage of Celicas, but the TPR CAI and SRI are both made to eliminate that problem. They have fins before the MAFS just like the stock airbox to tune the airflow through the MAFS properly, a part that no other Intake on the market has (which is why they bog and sometimes cause CELs).
As for competing with Injen, TPR totally obliterates it on low end, and is neck and neck up top. TPR gains 10+ hp and tq down at 3500, and even more the lower you go. It's about even, if not slightly more powerful than AEM down low, and beats both AEM and Injen at midrange power. At lift, it destroys both Intakes as well.
The first TPR Exhaust GB has closed, and all payments are in! The exhausts will be shipping soon, and at least one customer will be doing a dyno comparison of the TPR CAI and TPR exhaust vs stock.
Due to funds, no. No dyno will be done on a GT. Its pretty safe to say that since the exhaust makes more power than TRD on a GTS, then it will do so on a GT as well.
TPR Intake! - Injens high end with AEM's low end and NO BOGGING! TPR EXHAUST! - Exhaust made 10.5 whp peak and 32 whp at 6300 on my car!!!
its means without Turbo or any kind of forced induction. Thats seems alittle high for n/a though. I might believ the 240 whp. But until I see you break into 200whp with simple mods (intake, exhaust, headers) then you got a way to go. Unless you plan on going all outwith pulleys and internals, and tpr engine block lol.
^^ they are thinking with cams, pfc, I, H, E they will hit 240. Only time will tell. (this is my guess) I'm going a different route and should see the same # without cams. I can garauntee if they hit that number i'll be investing in what ever I can use lol
I keep missing you mike, dammit...im gonna be in cali next week!...socal to be exact...but to correct you, we wont be using a PFC...something similar tho
TPR Intake! - Injens high end with AEM's low end and NO BOGGING! TPR EXHAUST! - Exhaust made 10.5 whp peak and 32 whp at 6300 on my car!!!
damn dude I'm house sitting for the next 2 weeks so I havent been home in like 4 days already lol that one day was the only day I was home. pm me your cell# and I'll give you a ring.
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). So we promptly canned him and started a search for a better shop. We finally found a great one in CA with lots of connections in the industry. Next up was updating the design of the Intakes to fit and work better, since we had so many more resources at hand with the new shop. 
) are also cast into the pipe instead of welded for superior durability.
TPR didn't even have enough money for the initial stock vs TPR exhaust dyno (the above is an independent dyno done by Red01GTS from NCelica.org) at the time (all the Intake profits were used up making the TPR exhaust prototype), but we were lucky since EasyC had a hook up at a local dyno shop so he got a free run in. Still, the prices on TPR parts are lower than their competitors, and their Performance and reliability are tops in their respective categories. 
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As long as you start the car at 6000 RPM every time you move from a start and stay in lift all the time, you'd never know the difference between Injen and AEM. 
Anyone on here care to dyno their cars with the TPR exhaust when they get it? 
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