what modifications do i have to do to gain more horsepower like 300 hp and how much will it cost me? maybe a supercharger or turbo can someone tell me? how much hp will be add with the supercharger? thx
Hmm you want a Turbo. Supercharger will only add like 40 hp, correct me if I'm wrong. Turbo will add a lot more but its all upper-end gains. Supercharger will get more kick off the line, Turbo will feel like when you hit the higher RPMs.
"IF" I sell my celica I am going with the 2005 Corvette... BUt, I have not deceided yet... There is not much modding to a corvette... But I would add 150 shot nitro...
what modifications do i have to do to gain more horsepower like 300 hp and how much will it cost me? maybe a supercharger or turbo can someone tell me? how much hp will be add with the supercharger? thx
I don't understand... If you wanted something that fast, then why didn't you buy something faster like an evo, or wrx, even a z??
You just going to spend another ten grand making your car to be as fast as them anyway.
what modifications do i have to do to gain more horsepower like 300 hp and how much will it cost me? maybe a supercharger or turbo can someone tell me? how much hp will be add with the supercharger? thx
I don't understand... If you wanted something that fast, then why didn't you buy something faster like an evo, or wrx, even a z??
You just going to spend another ten grand making your car to be as fast as them anyway.
because its not a celica
a kid told me that celicas handle like crap... i laughed
what modifications do i have to do to gain more horsepower like 300 hp and how much will it cost me? maybe a supercharger or turbo can someone tell me? how much hp will be add with the supercharger? thx
I don't understand... If you wanted something that fast, then why didn't you buy something faster like an evo, or wrx, even a z??
You just going to spend another ten grand making your car to be as fast as them anyway.
because its not a celica
That was an awesome answer!! and I feel ya on that one 100%
it is possible..however i GUARANTEE our stock trannys wont be able to handle that..i say 250 hp and the stock trannys are gone.
also..ever heard of traction? you might have 300 hp at the crank..but on a FWD good luck getting all that power to the ground.
if you wanted the power of a 3sgte, you should've got a celica GT-four instead. because after you swap the engine you have to also change your transmission to AWD, which is more $$. honestly..save your money and invest it..or buy a better car.
It's not all about the Horsepower. I'm my personal understanding, you can have a lower horsepower car; as long as it weighs like 10 pounds, you'll burn a lot of people. I think that's the one downfall to the Supra, it weighs too much. As for the 300 HP, i'm gonna say your best to go the forced induction route.
Knowing the path and choosing the path are two different things.
I could make my celica 2000 pounds if I went crazy with my sabre saw. I'll tell you what. Someone on this forum donate your car to my weight reduction project! I will make it 2000 pounds! I guarentee!
It's not all about the Horsepower. I'm my personal understanding, you can have a lower horsepower car; as long as it weighs like 10 pounds, you'll burn a lot of people. I think that's the one downfall to the Supra, it weighs too much. As for the 300 HP, i'm gonna say your best to go the forced induction route.
I think that would be the way to go on a celica (lightweight) because that is the advantage that the celica naturally has over most cars to begin with. I've seen Carbon Fiber hoods and lightweight wheels - Has anybody ever thought of Lexan (or another plastic) windows? I know there are several styles of lightweight racing seat out there. Has anybody ever done much with this?
I could make my celica 2000 pounds if I went crazy with my sabre saw. I'll tell you what. Someone on this forum donate your car to my weight reduction project! I will make it 2000 pounds! I guarentee!
300 HP on our FWD, front engine cars will be 1) difficult to obtain, 2) required forced induction, 3) REALLY difficult to drive because of POOR traction even with a limited slip differential.
You guys gotta remember, our car's are lightweight and front wheel drive. If you just shed some pounds, and tune the motor for some power, the car will be just as enjoyable.
0 to 60 in 4.9 seconds Quarter Mile in 13.1 seconds Lateral Grip 1.0 G 0 to 100 in 12.6 seconds Top Speed 141 mph Fuel Economy 30-35mpg
That kind of performance with a stock celica engine! We definately need some weight reduction projects!
yea we do. ive decided that im not going the FI route. im going to do all the bolt ons that there are, then the name of the game is weight reduction. lexan rear window, lexan sunroof with removed motor, Carbon Fiber hood, lightweight 16'' rims, Carbon Fiber seats, and the list goes on
was....5speed with i/h/e 15.41 @ 89.30mph 2.282 60'
what modifications do i have to do to gain more horsepower like 300 hp and how much will it cost me? maybe a supercharger or turbo can someone tell me? how much hp will be add with the supercharger? thx
I don't understand... If you wanted something that fast, then why didn't you buy something faster like an evo, or wrx, even a z??
You just going to spend another ten grand making your car to be as fast as them anyway.
because its not a celica
That was an awesome answer!! and I feel ya on that one 100%
"IF" I sell my celica I am going with the 2005 Corvette... BUt, I have not deceided yet... There is not much modding to a corvette... But I would add 150 shot nitro...
actually the vette DOES have a good selection of aftermarket mods (about the same or more than that of the celica)--not bad for a domestic.
0 to 60 in 4.9 seconds Quarter Mile in 13.1 seconds Lateral Grip 1.0 G 0 to 100 in 12.6 seconds Top Speed 141 mph Fuel Economy 30-35mpg
That kind of performance with a stock celica engine! We definately need some weight reduction projects!
yea we do. ive decided that im not going the FI route. im going to do all the bolt ons that there are, then the name of the game is weight reduction. lexan rear window, lexan sunroof with removed motor, Carbon Fiber hood, lightweight 16'' rims, Carbon Fiber seats, and the list goes on
It would also be in your best interest to possibly convert it to a FR car. Hell, if I had the money, I would just buy the Lotus. They are kinda cheap compared to some cars out there. Not to mention what you could make it do with a few bolt-ons, and some weight reductions. I'm sure that you could make that thing weigh at least 100 lbs. less if ya tried.
Aqua Teen Hunger Force...number one in the hood, G
0 to 60 in 4.9 seconds Quarter Mile in 13.1 seconds Lateral Grip 1.0 G 0 to 100 in 12.6 seconds Top Speed 141 mph Fuel Economy 30-35mpg
That kind of performance with a stock celica engine! We definately need some weight reduction projects!
yea we do. ive decided that im not going the FI route. im going to do all the bolt ons that there are, then the name of the game is weight reduction. lexan rear window, lexan sunroof with removed motor, Carbon Fiber hood, lightweight 16'' rims, Carbon Fiber seats, and the list goes on
It would also be in your best interest to possibly convert it to a FR car. Hell, if I had the money, I would just buy the Lotus. They are kinda cheap compared to some cars out there. Not to mention what you could make it do with a few bolt-ons, and some weight reductions. I'm sure that you could make that thing weigh at least 100 lbs. less if ya tried.
Yeah I wonder if you can put some Celica mods on the Elise...
0 to 60 in 4.9 seconds Quarter Mile in 13.1 seconds Lateral Grip 1.0 G 0 to 100 in 12.6 seconds Top Speed 141 mph Fuel Economy 30-35mpg
That kind of performance with a stock celica engine! We definately need some weight reduction projects!
yea we do. ive decided that im not going the FI route. im going to do all the bolt ons that there are, then the name of the game is weight reduction. lexan rear window, lexan sunroof with removed motor, Carbon Fiber hood, lightweight 16'' rims, Carbon Fiber seats, and the list goes on
It would also be in your best interest to possibly convert it to a FR car. Hell, if I had the money, I would just buy the Lotus. They are kinda cheap compared to some cars out there. Not to mention what you could make it do with a few bolt-ons, and some weight reductions. I'm sure that you could make that thing weigh at least 100 lbs. less if ya tried.
Yeah I wonder if you can put some Celica mods on the Elise...
a GTS fuel rale, pistons, and things like that would work, but a celica gTS intake, headers, adn exhasut and those things woulnt work
was....5speed with i/h/e 15.41 @ 89.30mph 2.282 60'
Build the rest of your engine up. Get stiffer valve springs and forge your block and crank to heavier standards. Then get some Darkin sleeves if they make them, then check Toda for some cams for the 2ZZ-CE.Get some timer pulleys from AEM and overlap the valve timing ever so slighty.Check your Air/Fuel ratio, then retime your ECU to the new cams profiles. A high displacement fuel pump and larger injectors would cover all fuel delivery issues. Wrap the intake and exhaust manifold. Clean everything up with a port polish to clear up all the debris of combustion.NA power is the way to go if you want power though the entire powerband. With that set up, you could easily break 300 hp.
Build the rest of your engine up. Get stiffer valve springs and forge your block and crank to heavier standards. Then get some Darkin sleeves if they make them, then check Toda for some cams for the 2ZZ-CE.Get some timer pulleys from AEM and overlap the valve timing ever so slighty.Check your Air/Fuel ratio, then retime your ECU to the new cams profiles. A high displacement fuel pump and larger injectors would cover all fuel delivery issues. Wrap the intake and exhaust manifold. Clean everything up with a port polish to clear up all the debris of combustion.NA power is the way to go if you want power though the entire powerband. With that set up, you could easily break 300 hp.
*ndy
you can't get cam gears for our caras they are constantly being adjusted what do you think the vvt-i is?
hey bro...go with a 3sGTE go to www.topendmotorsports.com [topendmotorsports.com] and look under the JDM engine sections...they have them with AWD or RWD trannys for around $2,000 (and they are re-built to OEM spec) a buddy of mine bought an SR20 motor from them and is putting it in his NIssan 200sx (gonna be crazy fast)...its just the install that's gonna run you crazy...the 3sGTE doesn't just bolt in on our motor mounts, so it would run you a little to do that, but it isn't impossible...and you'll end up being able to mod the all holy out of the engine...its really easy to hit over 400 hp with that engine because it came with high end internals
My last car was an Elise and theres no way in hell you're going to make it any lighter. You can pick them up cheaper than Celicas if you're willing to have a second hand one though. Nothing in the interior to strip out because there is no interior. Just buy one without the optional air conditioning and radio. I had the S2 Sport 190 which wasn't the Toyota engine, just the modified K Series. It might only have had 190bhp, but like you said, weight counts for everything. It weighed 710kg which meant it had 272bhp per ton. Really was too fast and impractical for the road, but I used to do a lot of Lotus Elise trackdays so it was essential I had one of the quickest Elises.
Good luck making 710kg out of the Celica though. It'll never happen!
I've always loved the elises...I went to the UK 2 years ago to visit my cousin over there...While I was there I took a driving school at silverstone race way with the elises...they are awesome!!!!, and light as a feather... that and I visited the factory where they make the ULTIMA GTR ...OMG that's the most gorgeous automobile I've ever seen in my life
Yeah, I've done the day at Silverstone. Some competition I won through a tuning magazine. They were running the stanard S1 Elises. A tad underpowered but you're right they're great cars. S1s are a lot more oversteery than the S2, and more likely to send you backwards into someones house. Has to be said though the S1 is more fun on the track, especially on the limit. My friend managed to scrape together enough money for a 97' S1 and the prick drove it into a river the second day he had it. He now drives a 1.6 4 door Golf. HA HA HA.
^^^^^ LMAO!!!! yeah I got the whole thing lined up through an advert I saw in EVO magazine (I love that magazine, but costs a damn arm and leg to get the surscription here in the US)...its also where I got the idea to go check out the ULTIMA GTR shop...if you're over there you should go check it out...I forget where its at exactly but its worth going because the cars are simply hypnotizing.
Our GT st2-st3 Turbokit is 250-300hp its around 6000$ whith all the parts + labour. -turbo kit ( w. or w/o hybrid Turbo) -internals -fuel management -clutch
We are just installing an st2 kit on a USA spec car for "eurocelica"s car. Finishing it this weekend. He wanted to have (~300hp) the same power like you. We will see if the USA spec tranny can hold it or not. Euro spec can.
back to the subject of engines, if you have the money for the engine swap, it comes with an AWD upgrade...? That means that you can mod it till your penniless and still have traction...right? that would be great...
yup...you can build one serious celica with the AWD 3sGTE...you may have to spend a little money and buy an old all-trac for parts shouldn't be much (suspension pieces)...but you'd have one hellacious and dominating celica (not to mention good-looking), and yes, you could mod it until you are penniless...very easily
oh, so you wont be able to mod it with regular parts because it has the engine of a all-trac. It would be easier if they could just make the celicas with more power to begin with...for instance, they could start out by making it AWD, and have larger cylinders rather than the sucky 1.8 liter... , still love the celica though
if you put the 3sgte into the 7th gen celica...you won't be able to put normal 1zz/2zz parts into the celica (or parts that are listed for 00-04 celica GT/GTS)...but with the 3sGTE in the celica you'll be able to mod the all holy out of your celi...and you'll be able to beat the hell out of most cars on the street
get a 3sgte engine swap for like 10,000 dollars and you hav over 500 hp
check out autodex some time, they have totalled celis and mr2s with the 3sgte all a whole car that's been totalled for like 1800, so yeah, by the time you end up installing it you're probably looking around 10000 out the door. but definately worth your while if you want a celi that'll make others go WTF.
have anyone seen a 3sgte engine and awd tranny atached to it? i'm pretty sure the people who have,are not the ones saying,yes go 3sgte and awd! unless you want to cut the firewall of the celica and do a shit load of fabrication work,the awd trannty will not work in the 7th gen celica! the tranny that will work is the mr2 Turbo tranny,the 1990 to 1999 celica gt tranny,and a few tranny from the v6 camrys.the exact years i cant remember.
to stop all this awd talk,the awd tranny has the rear housing,thats where the shaft that runs to the rear diff.comes out of,its really huge and wraps around the back of the engine and sticks back.it will not physically fit in a 7th gen celica unless you cut something,alot of somethings! the stock Intake manifold,cant even fit,without hitting the back of the engine bay,muchless the rear housing on the tranny. and lets not forget that engine/tranny combo was designed for a different car,the housing points straight down the middle with the shaft coming out,and the exhuast,clearing the cross member(it doesnt run the same as the nonturbo cause the housing and rear shaft now sits where the exhaust usually run.thats only for the awd tranny,thats why,the other trannys are used as opposed to the awd one.
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Here's a "Celica" that weighs in at under 2000 lbs. Just look at the difference 500 lbs. makes. 
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, still love the celica though 
